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    Ride This Not That

    I finally broke the 300lb barrier. Down 125 lbs. 50lbs to go.

    It time for me to switch from a hybrid to a road bike. I've narrowed it down to two bikes.

    2010 Specialized Secteur Elite 58cm $1400

    Cannondale r4000si CAAD6 size xl/63cm - $800

    My dilemma are as follows:
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    Comfort vs Speed

    Has anybody had any experience with either of these two bicycles?

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    It is very strange that you are looking at a 58 cm bike and a 63 cm bike. Do they both really fit you? or are you just looking at the Cannondale because it is used and cheaper? Obviously get the bike that fits if these are your two choices. if you don't have the budget for the $1400 bike then buy a cheaper bike but get one that fits properly. All the big bike companies make a decent entry level road bike for $800-$1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclist2000 View Post
    It is very strange that you are looking at a 58 cm bike and a 63 cm bike. Do they both really fit you? or are you just looking at the Cannondale because it is used and cheaper? Obviously get the bike that fits if these are your two choices. if you don't have the budget for the $1400 bike then buy a cheaper bike but get one that fits properly. All the big bike companies make a decent entry level road bike for $800-$1000.
    +1000....how's an ill fitting bike going to be anywhere near comfort? New Vs used, a sickly fit aint worth a dime!

    How tall ?? I'm 6'1 and ride 57/58 bikes. If I were to ride a 63, I'd have to sit on the toptube like I did when I was 9 y/o trying to ride a Schwinn Varsity.

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    Go for the Secutar Sport in a 58 if the Elite is just out of your price range.

    Or there is another radical point of view that is hard to consider once the "new bike bug" has bitten: Keep saving your pennies until you can afford the bike you actually want. The Secutar Elite is one sweet bike! I got to see one in person last week and it was quite impressive.

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    Fit is crucial.

    I would suggest getting a bike that will allow you to use a 28c tire. In fact, if you get the Specialized, have them swap
    the tires for something nicer. I used the Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy 27c for years. Only reason I don't use them now is that the roads
    around here went downhill with the economy. I ride 32c now.

    Here's an example..
    http://salsacycles.com/bikes/casseroll_double/



    If it won't take a 28c, I'd look elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by late View Post
    Fit is crucial.

    I would suggest getting a bike that will allow you to use a 28c tire. In fact, if you get the Specialized, have them swap
    the tires for something nicer. I used the Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy 27c for years. Only reason I don't use them now is that the roads
    around here went downhill with the economy. I ride 32c now.

    Here's an example..
    http://salsacycles.com/bikes/casseroll_double/



    If it won't take a 28c, I'd look elsewhere.
    When I had my Allez, I rode Michelin Krylion 23c tires and the roads around here are not spectacular. Of course I ride all back roads, and can safely take the lane unless I am going up a hill, then I stay the heck out of the way (I dont care what the law allows ME, I wanna make it home alive...) Now, on my sirrus, being it has an alloy fork, I will stick with 28c tires to help smooth out vibrations.

    I would say save up for the Secteur if that is what you really want. Save your money till you can easily afford it! I am doing the same currently, for a brand new Chevy Cobalt (I think, gotta test drive one someday...) I could buy used, but I want my first NEW car, so I am going to save up till fall, and hope to catch some rebates.

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    Thanks for the input all. I am 6'3". I have not tried the 63cm yet but I've always heard that people should go up a size on road bike for comfort. I was incorrect on the Secteur size, it is a 61cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bautieri View Post
    Go for the Secutar Sport in a 58 if the Elite is just out of your price range.

    Or there is another radical point of view that is hard to consider once the "new bike bug" has bitten: Keep saving your pennies until you can afford the bike you actually want. The Secutar Elite is one sweet bike! I got to see one in person last week and it was quite impressive.
    Yeah ya did
    I have a completely biased point of view. I only have experience with the Secteur Elite and it is wonderful. I am so happy I splurged and went over my budget of 1000.00 for the 105 components. I have put 120 miles on it and I haven't changed a thing. I have the stock 25c tires and I think they are fine for now. I just rode with Bautieri and we had it on some sketchy gravel and pot holes. I had no problems. That's not to say I won't upgrade the tires when these wear out

    I second the suggestion to get a proper fitting. I never would have thought at just a touch under 6 feet, I would ride a 56cm. I figured a 58 or more, but it is very comfortable. I definitely have the correct size for me.

    BTW congrats on the weight loss, that is a considerable amount.
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    Ok I test road the CAAD6 and I was not prepared for how uncomfortable a road bike is. I felt like I was riding a Tron cycle with my back almost parallel to the ground. All all road bikes like this. I currently ride a hybrid so I was ready for a slightly different position but this was extreme. I did have to test ride it with tennis shoes on frog clip pedals and it did demolish the hill I regularly ride like it was down hill or something but I don't think I could ride like this for more a mile. I can't believe how light a 16 pound bike feels compared to my old monster Trek hybrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsievert View Post
    Ok I test road the CAAD6 and I was not prepared for how uncomfortable a road bike is. I felt like I was riding a Tron cycle with my back almost parallel to the ground. All all road bikes like this. I currently ride a hybrid so I was ready for a slightly different position but this was extreme. I did have to test ride it with tennis shoes on frog clip pedals and it did demolish the hill I regularly ride like it was down hill or something but I don't think I could ride like this for more a mile. I can't believe how light a 16 pound bike feels compared to my old monster Trek hybrid.
    They make an endurance or an enthusiast type of frame which is a little more upright. I believe the Cannondale Synapse is in this category. That is what my Specialized Secteur is. I ride a bit more upright. Somewhere between a racing style and the hybid style you are used to.
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    i felt like this too when hopping on a road bike after a long time. i found it too uncomfortable and found i was unable to hold myself up without my arms which you should be able to do apparently. gets better over time i think but i didn't give it a chance really i swapped the handlebars to flats for comfort good luck with it.

    think the general consensus is to work on your core muscles which will hold your body up with less effort
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    I'm gonna suggest trying bikes more suited for touring or cyclocross. I rode a steel Specialized Allez that was e/w bottom of the line Shimano components and dt mounted shifters. It's got tech not seen since the 80's, was slightly more upright than my roadie, comfortable and I wanted to buy it right away. It's also less expensive than either bike you listed.
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    Now did the 63 cm really fit well? have you tried the 61 cm bike? Were you only riding on the drops or riding on the brake hoods? maybe you were stretched out too far.

    I am just shy of 6'-3" and I fit on a 58-61 cm frames and feel most comfortable on a 61 cm frame. All frames are a little different and a 61 in one brand may feel like a 59 in another brand.

    I agree that a touring bike may be a little more upright. Also some brands leave a couple of inches of steerer so the handlebar height can be adjusted, I've seen this on Jamis and Surleys.

    Also some height may be added by flipping the handlebar stem.
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    Thanks 2Klose and everyone else for the suggestions. I went and test rode a 61cm Cannondale Synapse and it was amazing. This time next week i'll be posting a pic on my new bike. Now I just need to feel comfortable enough to wear my bike shorts without other shorts over the top.

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    +1 on the Synapse. I have a 2007 Carbon Synapse SL2. I do like that bike. There are other bikes that have similar geometry. The Specialized Roubaix is one. I know that Felt has a frame that is similar. I'm sure that most road bike companies have this type of frame. The Paris-Roubaix road race was this past weekend. A good portion of the riders opted to ride this type of frame since the route had several long sections of cobblestone. This "performance" frame geometry is designed for long days in the saddle and to absorb vibration a little better than a true race frame.

    A review of several of the bikes from the Paris-Roubaix race are covered in the pro bike features section of Cycling News.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech

    (there will be different bikes covered when the next big race comes around in a few weeks... so I'm sure the link won't be current for future readers of the thread.)

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