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Brando_T. 04-08-10 05:17 AM

training for back-to-back long rides
 
I wonder if anyone can point me to online training plans for two day long rides - I'm planning on 2 x 100km later this year, and I can't seem to find info on training for this sort of ride specifically.

NoRacer 04-08-10 06:06 AM

What's your physical condition, now?
What's the route like? (hills, weather, wind)
What are you riding? (steel touring bike? carbon uber bike with unobtainium metal parts?)

Brando_T. 04-08-10 06:36 AM

I don't think any of that is relevant, since i'm looking for a training plan & tips on how to approach back to back long rides.

but

I did a metric century last year. I've been on the trainer in the basement all winter, resumed commuting to work recently, and did a couple 40 km rides so far this year.
Route is mostly flat S. Ontario
Riding an aluminum specialized Sirrus that I converted to drop bars over the winter. This is the bike I did a metric on last september.

CliftonGK1 04-08-10 07:22 AM

Start with doing whatever you consider a long Saturday ride, and follow it with a short Sunday recovery ride. Next weekend, add a few miles to the recovery ride. Keep adding miles to the recovery ride, even if you're increasing the miles on the long ride.
To comfortably do a back to back metric weekend, try to get yourself up to doing a back to back 40 miler weekend.

Homeyba 04-08-10 07:25 AM

Actually his questions were relevant because you'd approach your training differently depending on what your initial condition is. ie if you ride 30 miles/week you'd want more training than if you rode 200 miles/week. The same goes with the terrain. A hilly metric is going to take much more effort than a flat one. The bike itself probably doesn't matter as much.

In all truth, you could probably get on your bike today and do what your asking without any additional training. More training is just going to make it much easier and less stressful to the body. The training you did last year to do the metric should be sufficient to do back to back ones unless you were totally wiped out after you finished. If you were, then you probably need to do some additional training.

mkadam68 04-08-10 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeyba (Post 10640836)
Actually his questions were relevant because you'd approach your training differently depending on what your initial condition is. ie if you ride 30 miles/week you'd want more training than if you rode 200 miles/week. The same goes with the terrain. A hilly metric is going to take much more effort than a flat one. The bike itself probably doesn't matter as much.

In all truth, you could probably get on your bike today and do what your asking without any additional training. More training is just going to make it much easier and less stressful to the body. The training you did last year to do the metric should be sufficient to do back to back ones unless you were totally wiped out after you finished. If you were, then you probably need to do some additional training.

+1

Fastflyingasian 04-08-10 08:14 AM

back to back 65 mile rides are not too bad to do. the way i might approach it would be to start riding 4 days a week back to back with 3 days off. each of the four days i would ride 20 miles (or whatever you can do now) a day and increase it to 30 then 40 over time that is comfortable to you depending on how far off the ride is. the closer the ride date then the faster you need to progress. week of i would not ride that much.a few days before i would take a light 20 mile ride and day before a light 10 mile ride. if you can ride 40 miles a day for 4 days then 2 days at 65 miles back to back you will be more than ready for it and should be able to complete it at a good but comfortable pace and earn the next few days off the bike.

NoRacer 04-08-10 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeyba (Post 10640836)
In all truth, you could probably get on your bike today and do what your asking without any additional training. More training is just going to make it much easier and less stressful to the body. The training you did last year to do the metric should be sufficient to do back to back ones unless you were totally wiped out after you finished. If you were, then you probably need to do some additional training.

+1

Mr. Beanz 04-08-10 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando_T. (Post 10640659)
I don't think any of that is relevant, .

:eek:..

Brando_T. 04-08-10 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz (Post 10641389)
:eek:..

thanks for the replies.

I guess I was looking for a general discussion on how you would train differently, in the abstract sense, for back to back long rides as opposed to an all out effort on a single day. Hence my "I don't think that is relevant".

sorry if that was rude or abrupt.

DieselDan 04-08-10 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brando_T. (Post 10641714)
thanks for the replies.

I guess I was looking for a general discussion on how you would train differently, in the abstract sense, for back to back long rides as opposed to an all out effort on a single day. Hence my "I don't think that is relevant".

sorry if that was rude or abrupt.

I'm the rude and abrupt one. If you can ride 30 miles a day, then you can easily do 65 miles on two days.

DoubleTap 04-08-10 01:45 PM

Google MS150 and use one of the many training plans designed for that. I'm riding the Colorado MS150 this summer, and I got a good plan off the website for the ride. It includes, a riding schedule and also strength and stretching. I'm making good progress on it.

Brando_T. 04-08-10 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleTap (Post 10642807)
Google MS150 and use one of the many training plans designed for that. I'm riding the Colorado MS150 this summer, and I got a good plan off the website for the ride. It includes, a riding schedule and also strength and stretching. I'm making good progress on it.

yes! this is what i was looking for, I just didn't know where to find it.

Brando_T. 04-08-10 02:09 PM

Here's sort of what I was looking for, thanks again Doubletap

http://bikenct.nationalmssociety.org...df?docID=23164

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