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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 04-11-10, 10:29 PM   #1
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New bike and flatted on the first ride

I just bought a new Fuji Cross Comp 2009 closeout and flatted on my inaugural ride. As I was fixing my flat I was watching other riders ride right through where I did on even skinnier tires and it didn't seem like anyone else even gave it a second though. Did I just get unlucky? Is this a bad omen? j/k...

I'm was thinking about trading out the tires to something a little more rode oriented instead of the cross ones anyway. I'm not sure if the tires it comes with allowed me to flat easier or if my weight (270ish) makes me more susceptible to bad road conditions. I crunched through some glass not realizing until too late that I was driving through a glass mine field. Luckily I had swapped over my seat bag that had a a flat repair kit (I debated taking the extra minutes to do it thinking I'd be fine. I just wanted to ride my new bike!)

After the ride I went to the shop to buy a frame pump though. I flatted on my old bike last weekend too and I normally carry CO2 inflators but I figured two flats in two weeks I don't feel like spending more money on C02 cartridge replacements.

On the plus side I now have two real word flat repairs so I'm not worried about it happening in the future. Which is good because I plan on riding longer and farther to support my weight loss goals.
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Old 04-11-10, 10:50 PM   #2
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Flats happen! I cleaned/lubed/reassembled my bike after a 7 year hiatus or so... put NEW WHEELS on it with NEW TUBES and flatted within the first mile.

It's a Pain in the A$$ but comes with the territory.
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you didn't mention size or brand of tire that flatted, what type of flat? Did you pump up the tires before the ride? I wouldn't be too hasty to get new tires until I found out what caused the flat.

You don't always carry a patch kit? if not you should unless you like walking home, I don't like walking home in cycling shoes.

as for CO2 cartridges if you do NOT use the threaded cartridges, buy them at a sporting goods store that sells air guns. I got a box of 25 cartridges for about $6.
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I had a serious issue with flats on my cross check that was outfitted with cross tires, that is until I swapped out the stock cx tires for specialized armadillos. That was 3,000 miles ago, and I haven't had a flat since.
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Do you know what type of flat? Did you find something in the tire? Or was it a pinch flat from under-inflated tires?

I would stick with CO2, just buy the cartridges somewhere other then a LBS. Walmart sells them with the sporting goods. You can get 12oz for less then a dollar.
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yeah i use to have alot of bad luck with flats. i don't use conventional tires anymore. i have panaracer pasela tourguide tires with the kevlar lining and don't get flats. the other day i felt a bumping sensation and when i checked my rear tire a thumbtack was sticking out of my tire, the kevlar lining wouldn't let the tack penetrate and give me a flat, that is how tough those tires are.
if i was you i would look into the new flat proof tires as an upgrade, you get peace of mind knowing you will have a hard time getting a flat with those type of tyres.
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On a Tour de Cure social/training ride, a group of 25 people all rode the same area, but only 2 people flatted out. One guy flatted front and rear, his wife flatted her rear tire. No one else had any issues.
They were a) unlucky, and b) the only riders using a specific brand/model of tire. I blame a little bit of both.

The lesson? Sometimes, crap happens. Keep a pump and spare tubes handy, even on a 20 mile social ride.
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as a previous poster said it comes with the territory. gives you alot of practice replacing the tube so its not a bad thing really. also depends what type of flat it was? glass, nail, pinch etc? its always a good idea to check the inside of the tyre before putting the new tube in in case the offending thorn or whatever is still there
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The flat was caused by glass and it was dead on the centerline of the tire. I rode right through some and immediately heard the hissing from my rear tire. The tires are Kenda Kwick Cross, 700 x 30c. I did pump up to right around max pressure before I left for the ride.

I attached a new frame pump last night so I'll probably stick with that just for the versatility and not having to worry about using up CO2 if I have multiple flats or need to help someone else out. Plus it will free up just enough room in my seatbag to slip in my cellphone as it was pretty much jammed with spare, patch kit, multi-tool, tire levers, and CO2.

I think the worse that's come out of the flats is now my girlfriend if nervous about riding without me in case she flats. Going to need to do a home tutorial with her, although she'd probably still call for a bailout.
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it's good luck, just like pigeon poop

congratulations on the new bike!

+1 for specialized armadillos. I have them on 3 bikes. I weigh 222 lbs and like them up around 110 psi
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Flats seem to come in lumps. Once you get them out of the way it seems you will have a year without one. Check all the usual stuff, get good tires and tubes and get rolling.

Look at the positive side! You probably destroyed the remaining tire puncturing glass when you flatted. Everyone else rode smooth because of your sacrifice!
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Yesterday, I was on a training ride for the MN Ironman bike ride, had 3 flats on one ride. (Third was the patch of the second, hole was right next to a seam ridge, and the patch leaked along the ridge.) I named the ride the Tour de Flat Tire.
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I just bought a new Fuji Cross Comp 2009 closeout and flatted on my inaugural ride. As I was fixing my flat I was watching other riders ride right through where I did on even skinnier tires and it didn't seem like anyone else even gave it a second though. Did I just get unlucky? Is this a bad omen? j/k...

I'm was thinking about trading out the tires to something a little more rode oriented instead of the cross ones anyway. I'm not sure if the tires it comes with allowed me to flat easier or if my weight (270ish) makes me more susceptible to bad road conditions. I crunched through some glass not realizing until too late that I was driving through a glass mine field. Luckily I had swapped over my seat bag that had a a flat repair kit (I debated taking the extra minutes to do it thinking I'd be fine. I just wanted to ride my new bike!)

After the ride I went to the shop to buy a frame pump though. I flatted on my old bike last weekend too and I normally carry CO2 inflators but I figured two flats in two weeks I don't feel like spending more money on C02 cartridge replacements.

On the plus side I now have two real word flat repairs so I'm not worried about it happening in the future. Which is good because I plan on riding longer and farther to support my weight loss goals.
I got my first flat a few weeks ago on the Bayshore Bikeway. It looks like it may have been some small glass shards. It was on my road bike with no flat protection whatsoever. Michelin Pro3 and stock tubes and a large man at the helm. Not bad after about 2k miles. Where do you ride in San Diego?
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yeah i use to have alot of bad luck with flats. i don't use conventional tires anymore. i have panaracer pasela tourguide tires with the kevlar lining and don't get flats. the other day i felt a bumping sensation and when i checked my rear tire a thumbtack was sticking out of my tire, the kevlar lining wouldn't let the tack penetrate and give me a flat, that is how tough those tires are.
if i was you i would look into the new flat proof tires as an upgrade, you get peace of mind knowing you will have a hard time getting a flat with those type of tyres.
Yeah, I love my panaracer pasela TGs. I've got about 2K miles on the set on my bike, and the only flat I've had was a presta valve that spat the little screwy thing out. I've picked some strange things out of them. There are other tires with just a good reputation, too.
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I took one of my road bikes out for the first time yesterday, got a flat 7 miles into the ride. Kind of a bummer.

Might have to consider a set of the kevlar tires. I hate changing flats and I am not very good at it.
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I took one of my road bikes out for the first time yesterday, got a flat 7 miles into the ride. Kind of a bummer.

Might have to consider a set of the kevlar tires. I hate changing flats and I am not very good at it.
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1) As a clyde, make sure the tire is always topped off, measure it, don't go by feel.
2) Tougher tires are called for. I like Conti Gatorskinz, and have heard good things about Schwalbe Marathons.
3) Even with tough tires, check over the rubber once a week or so, and pry out any glass or other shrapnel. Over time it will wear through the puncture protection.
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Where do you ride in San Diego?
Mainly start from my house in Oceanside and catch the San Luis Rey bike path out of my neighborhood out to the coast and then south to Carlsbad and back. I have trucked our cruisers down to Coronado and ridden the Bayshore path though. That's actually where I found out that 15 miles is about my limit on beach cruiser distance.

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1) As a clyde, make sure the tire is always topped off, measure it, don't go by feel.
2) Tougher tires are called for. I like Conti Gatorskinz, and have heard good things about Schwalbe Marathons.
3) Even with tough tires, check over the rubber once a week or so, and pry out any glass or other shrapnel. Over time it will wear through the puncture protection.
I ended up buying gatorskins last night and putting them on. The tires that came with it were pretty knobby even for a cross tire. Plus, they were on the rims backwards per the sidewall rotation directional arrow (if that even matters.)

I have the 700x28mm gatorskin and it says the recommended tire pressure is 95 psi and max is 125 psi. Is topped off consider at least recommended psi or max psi?
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The tires that came with it were pretty knobby even for a cross tire. Plus, they were on the rims backwards per the sidewall rotation directional arrow (if that even matters.)
On pavement, it doesn't matter, much. In dirt, it might. But dirt riders often mount the front and rear tires so the treads point different directions. In general, you want good traction to accelerate with from the rear tire, and good braking traction with th e front, which apply force to the ground in opposite directions, which means the tread should be different.

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I don't know what you weigh, but given this is the clyde forum, I'd go for near the max. If it's too bouncy, cut it down a bit.
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I have the 700x28mm gatorskin and it says the recommended tire pressure is 95 psi and max is 125 psi. Is topped off consider at least recommended psi or max psi?
I weigh 230 pounds and keep my 700 x 28 Gatorskins at 115psi.
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Yeah, I love my panaracer pasela TGs. I've got about 2K miles on the set on my bike, and the only flat I've had was a presta valve that spat the little screwy thing out. I've picked some strange things out of them. There are other tires with just a good reputation, too.
So I say this, and today, I went out to the bike, and the front was flat. It was fine when I put it away yesterday night.
Very bizarre hole, absolutely tiny. I couldn't have found it without a spray bottle of leak detection fluid. Stuff like that is why I always carry a spare tube.
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Maybe it means you've gotten the flat out of the way and won't have another one for the rest of the season. I hope so. Flats are tedious.
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Maybe it means you've gotten the flat out of the way and won't have another one for the rest of the season. I hope so. Flats are tedious.
ah they're not that bad - i used to have tubs when i was younger now that is tedious!!
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Maybe it means you've gotten the flat out of the way and won't have another one for the rest of the season. I hope so. Flats are tedious.
No such luck. i broke a spoke (NDS, at the hub end) today, and the nipple worked thorugh the tape and into the tube. (Didn't notice the broken spoke until I when to fix the flat. I love 36 spoke wheels.)
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oops hope you get that fixed soon enough - i got my first flat today!! to be honest i was delighted to get my hands dirty but i forgot to pump the wheels this morning and only noticed when i was out and said to myself 'ah it'll be ok' i guess it wasn't
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