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    What Saddle?

    I'm 5'8" 242lbs (was 263lbs!) I bought a Giant Cypress. I can no longer stand the saddle. After a few minutes on the bike my butt bones hurt!!! Its the OEM seat...it has "Unity" printed on it...it looks like it should be comfortable, wide and bulbous, but alas, it is just the opposite.

    What saddle should I get? (In 20 days I will be taking part in the 42mile 5 boro bike tour in NY)...HELP!!!

    Thinking about getting this, but I m open to suggestions


    MEN'S: 2123400 Terry Liberator Y Gel Saddle $70

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    I've heard good things about Terry saddles. Here's another alternative. People swear by the Brooks B17.

    http://www.wallbike.com/B17.htmld



    PS. Comfort is counter-intuitive with saddles. The more padding, the less comfortable. Something about too much cushion pushing against your sensitive areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmRider View Post

    What saddle should I get? (In 20 days I will be taking part in the 42mile 5 boro bike tour in NY)...HELP!!!
    There's only one saddle I will ever own, or recommend- The Selle An-Atomica Clydesdale Watershed.
    It's the only saddle that I've ever been able to really get comfortable on and it rides like it's broken in from day 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MVclyde View Post
    I've heard good things about Terry saddles. Here's another alternative. People swear by the Brooks B17.

    My guess, (and it is a guess) is that you have about a 75-80% chance of the Brooks working for you. And you have about 50% chance of it working out of the box. Some people like them straight away, some like it after anything from 100-500 miles. Some,.....well, thats why you should buy from Wallbike, because of their return policy.

    I'm lucky, I put a brand new B17 Special on 3 days before a 200km weekend, I was sore, but no-where near as most others, and mostly not my butt.

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    Good call, c.miller64. I forgot about the Selle An-Atomica saddles. I've seen some excellent reviews here on BF. As I recall, just as you said....great saddle, little to no break in required like the Brooks.
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    Another vote for the Selle An-Atomica (LD Clydesdale). Wonderful saddle.

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    Take your bike down to your favorite shop. Most shops of a decent size have a trainer set up. Try some saddles. If you go to shop that sells Specialized they have a 30 day try it policy from the manufacturer. They also have a tool to measure the distance of your sit bones (ischial tuberosities). I went through a bunch of saddles until I ended up on this one:

    http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/...=9302&eid=5007

    The Brooks might work for you, but there is a break-in period and if you need a saddle you can live with very soon, it might not fit the bill for the short term.

    I was about 290 when I purchased this and am 239 and it still works well.
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    Be careful about getting a saddle that is too soft.. Some of the worst saddles I have ever had are the Gel that is soft to the touch saddles.. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but a firmer - wider saddle seems to work better for many clydes..

    The B17 saddle is great, easy to setup, you may need a seatpost with a little setback because the rails are shorter.. There are a few other saddles in the 145mm - 155m width that are great too.. I use B17's, Selle Italia Turbos, San Marco Rolls and Regal saddles.. A little old school but they work for me.. These older saddles are also cut a little wider than many of the saddles that are available today.. The Turbo has been re-issued and can be found for 50.00.

    http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?p...jor=1&minor=18

    The Bontrager SSR saddle, A 25.00 saddle was surprisingly comfortable + it was firm and wide.. http://bontrager.com/model/08381

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    I have a B17 on my road (260lbs) and I'll be putting one on my Mnt Bike.....best money I ever spent on my bike
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    I have been riding an SMP TRK this year and I really like it. It's a bit wider, has a bit more padding (but not too much), and a roomy cut-out.

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...?ModelID=23428

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    I think you'll like the Terry, it is designed much like the saddle I use. I tried numerous saddles and was about
    to give up when a buddy gave me a $15.00 (Yes $15.00) Bell (Yes Bell) Sports Mountain Saddle . It isn't that sexy but my butt covers most of it anyway:>)

    http://www.amazon.com/Bell-1002228-M.../dp/B001E1G7Z6

    The only really comfortable saddle I have ever ridden. I did 40 miles Sunday, and my butt couldn't tell that I had been on a bike. I am about 5'11" 225#s (down from 270#s Jan. 1:>)

    That said, my buddy didn't care for it.

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    Shepp, nice weight loss, keep up the good work, you know if you get below 200, we throw you out of the Clydesdale club
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    Thanks peeps, it' been a long time comin. I ride a hybridized Trek 850 - I'm about ready to get back on my road bike, actually rode it around the block Saturday, for the first time in 10 years.

    Always figured 270/275 was a bit too heavy for Columbus Tubing :>)

    But you all know as well as I do, there is something about this forum; we might not weigh >200#s forever but once a Clyde always a Clyde....at heart.
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    Shep, I'm 260 on 30 year old Columbus. started at 295 got 30 more to go.....hope by August
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    Thanks to all that responded....You guys gave me a lot of info....especially 'Be careful about getting a saddle that is too soft.. Some of the worst saddles I have ever had are the Gel that is soft to the touch saddles.. I know it sounds counter-intuitive but a firmer - wider saddle seems to work better for many clydes..'.

    So many choices and price ranges!

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    Everyone mentions the B17, but Brooks make lots of saddles and I was wondering if the B67 was good as well.
    This one has springs and supposed to aid the heavy Urban cyclist who rides Hybrids with more of an upright position.

    Or is everyone recommending the B17 no matter what the cycle or how you ride?

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    The B17 saddle is pretty wide at 170mm, the b67 is enormous at 210mm.. If you want a sprung saddle to help with shock get the Brooks Champion Flyer.. It is the exact same size as the B17 with springs.. The B17 saddle is ideal fora moderate upright riding position.. A wider saddle like the B67 is so wide that it may encumber your pedal stroke.

    One another note if you do decide to buy a Brooks I would look at getting a model with the large copper rivets. I found that the standard Brooks saddle with the small steel rivets dig into your butt on longer rides while the copper rivets sit more flush to the saddle and if you get a edge on the copper ones you can hammer them down flush..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmRider View Post
    I'm 5'8" 242lbs (was 263lbs!) I bought a Giant Cypress. I can no longer stand the saddle. After a few minutes on the bike my butt bones hurt!!! Its the OEM seat...it has "Unity" printed on it...it looks like it should be comfortable, wide and bulbous, but alas, it is just the opposite.

    What saddle should I get? (In 20 days I will be taking part in the 42mile 5 boro bike tour in NY)...HELP!!!

    Thinking about getting this, but I m open to suggestions


    MEN'S: 2123400 Terry Liberator Y Gel Saddle $70
    Second the thought of avoing a saddle that is too soft. I use the Fly which is firm comapred to the Liberator. One would think it's not as comfy cause it's firm but not so. I have both he Liberator on my tandem and the FL on my single. I prefer the Fly.

    BTW $70!!!!....We paid about $45 at Performance. Website says they are on sale right now for $45. Online prices ar usually inlinewith shop prices if you have one near. Otherwise mention the online price/sale and they will give you the same price. Plus Performance let's you return a saddle within 30 days ( ?/give or take a few days).

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    I ride with a long distance club, so we're used to putting in big miles and spending more hours than any sane person would on our bikes.
    The saddles I see the most at club rides:

    Brooks: B-17, Imperial, Special, Swallow, Swift... all of them except the springer models.*
    WTB: Rocket-V (endorsed by a local distance legend, so it gets high cred up here)
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    Specialized BG series

    *Sprung saddles aren't necessary for our type of riding, but they're great for more upright positions like you have on the Cypress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 View Post
    I ride with a long distance club, so we're used to putting in big miles and spending more hours than any sane person would on our bikes.
    The saddles I see the most at club rides:

    Brooks: B-17, Imperial, Special, Swallow, Swift... all of them except the springer models.*
    WTB: Rocket-V (endorsed by a local distance legend, so it gets high cred up here)
    Selle An-Atomica: Regular and Clyde models
    Selle SMP Glider
    Specialized BG series

    *Sprung saddles aren't necessary for our type of riding, but they're great for more upright positions like you have on the Cypress.
    Just another example of how much saddle choice is a preference.

    I have a WTB Rocket V (ti rails), It's comfy but not as comfy as the Fly.
    I have a Specialized BG, hate it. Lucky if I can sit on it for 40 miles.

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    Selle SMP Plus solved my saddle problems. It's kind of expensive and a little ugly, but I can go 6+ hours on it without a hiccup. I tried a couple different seats before finding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 103 View Post
    Selle SMP Plus solved my saddle problems. It's kind of expensive and a little ugly, but I can go 6+ hours on it without a hiccup. I tried a couple different seats before finding it.
    Believe it or not, I'm actually considering giving the SMP Glider a try this season. I've been riding my B-17 Imperial since the pre-market testing and I do like it... but it's not 100% comfortable after 15 hours with my new FI.Mille shorts. Do you know if these ViVa Bag Loops and a Bagman Support will fit the rails on an SMP Glider?
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    Thanks for that info socalrider, just ordered the B17 with springs.

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    Love my Terry Liberator. Just pulled it off my old bike to put on the new one and was all ahhhh :-)
    Edit: Its not a gel model if that makes any difference.
    Edit: Enjoy the 5 boro but make sure you ride up to Central park early before the tour starts and wait for the police to pass you. If you go with he crowd it will be the 5 boro walking tour. You can take any alternate route to the park just can't ride directly on the tour path before it officially starts. You will also arrive at stops in time to get food this way. Rear of the crowd gets squat.
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    it's very personal.

    My best luck was with WTB rocket, and then my current fave -- a Charge Spoon (very popular int eh UK -- you can get one from Wiggle, they will ship to the us)
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