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Aldg 04-13-10 07:05 PM

First Timer 300 pounds and gearing to do the Pan Mass - what to do for a bike??
 
Hi - I have been training for the Pan Mass (early August - 192 miles over two days) been training on my 1970's 'vintage' Univega until the frame bent by the rear derailleur while riding up a hill on Sunday - it is trash; bummer.

I have done 45 miles in one day and about 80 miles a week, and am chomping at the bit to get my new bike and roll.

I have been spending more time than I should trying to make a decision and was not planning on the cost of a new bike, but such is life. After going to all my LBS and REI I believe I should get a steel frame - considering Fuji Touring Bike ($800) or a Jamis Satallite ($600)

Big issue is at 6' 300# which would be the better bike/value - would I be better off with the bigger and I assume?? stronger rims and tires on the Fuji (Rims Fuji Double Wall Aluminum, 36H, Black CNC sidewall
Tires Vittoria- Adventure Touring, 700 x 32c )

or would the rims and tires on the Jamis be adequate -
Wheels ( Alex AKX R1.0 wheelset, 28H radial front/ 32H 3X rear,
sealed alloy hubs 14g stainless steel spokes
Tires
Vittoria Zaffiro, 700 x 23c )

Thanks for your input! I want to make a quick decision - unless you have another suggestion.
Thanks

Tom Stormcrowe 04-13-10 07:44 PM

Have the wheels hand tensioned and checked out on the Fuji. I think you'll be all right. Those are double walled rims and 36 spokers, so they'll be strong and having the hand tensioning done will increase their lateral strength. You near Harris Cyclery? If so, take the wheels there.

Aldg 04-13-10 07:47 PM

Thanks Tom - any input on the Jamis?

flatt nutts 04-13-10 08:25 PM

i was 278 when i got back into biking, though i mountain bike the same things apply. i got a 36 spoke wheel set hand made and have not had a problem. now i am down to 228 and loving it. go with the greater spoke count and later you can change if you feel the need.

Neil_B 04-13-10 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldg (Post 10666805)
Thanks Tom - any input on the Jamis?

A couple of years ago someone suggested the Jamis as the ideal bike for me - a good, basic, reasonably priced tourer. The wheels are better on the Fuji, but they should be good enough on the Jamis.

Boyd Reynolds 04-13-10 09:36 PM

The Jamis Satellite is a great entry level road bike and would suit you very well, except for the wheels. I weighed about 300 when I bought my Jamis Allegro with Alex R1.0 wheels last year, and I wasted the rear wheel in less than two weeks. Jamis replaced it (Yay for Jamis customer service. They've been great) and I destroyed that one. They replaced that, and I destroyed the replacement. Eventually they paid for a Deep V wheel from Velocity for me. Jamis is awesome, Alex R1.0 wheels are not. If you choose the Satellite ask if you can swap the wheels for something sturdier.

MikeWinVA 04-13-10 09:40 PM

The tires are 23 mm on the Jamis, and that is a real skinny tire for big guys like us. If you get the Fuji with 32mm, you have the future option putting 23 mm's on it. You might not have the clearance on the Jamis to to put 32's if you find the 23's too skinny or harsh riding. I looked at the Jamis products a few months ago and almost pulled the trigger and got one.

I ended up with a Specialized because it had the fork and seat stay clearance for fat or skinny tires and fenders. There are no fender eyelets on the Jamis and I ride everyday except if it is sleeting or raining sideways.

However, that Jamis is a sweet ride and if you can get one for $600 that is a great deal. They were $900 around here when I was looking.

Get whichever one feels best, and like Tom said have the wheels hand tensioned. As long as your not jumping curbs and unload the seat when hitting rough pavement you should be good.

professorbob 04-13-10 09:47 PM

Jamis gives you a lot of bang for your buck, but I'm leery of the wheels. Either get the Jamis and swap out for better wheels or get the Fuji.

Aldg 04-14-10 04:25 AM

Thank you everyone - sounds like either the stock Fuji or the Jamis with upgraded wheels would be good choices. With a steel frame in my price range am I missing something I should look at?
Thanks
Al

Jamesw2 04-14-10 05:02 AM

I am 280 lbs @ six feet and bought a Globe Carmel 1 700 XL (2009 modle still around) The Carmel 3 is an 8 speed. It's a hybred
I had to replace the rear wheel with a double walled 36 sopoke rim. Its a AL frame long wheel base http://www.jacksbikes.com/contents/en-us/d956.html

With a 21 lb camel back I use on all new and to town routes. I like Al frames over steel because of my experiences . Even at 200 lbs i could warp a steel frame, when i got out of the saddle, it would shift gears. Then i got a Trek 1420 Al frame and it still solid at 280 lbs.

What ever bike you get make sure you raise the height of the handlebars to even or above the seat height. Getting longer quills made breathing easier.

I am also a + 50
Good luck on your ride

Aldg 04-14-10 07:56 PM

Thanks for all of your help - I picked up the Fuji Touring to test ride and most likely buy. I picked it up around 6:30 and rode about 18 miles in just over an hour through the hills along the coast... it was ridiculous how much more efficient (read: easy) to ride this bike compared to my old 1972 Univega Nuovo Sport 10 speed. The ease of shifting, the speed up and down hill... I love it!! The Pan Mass should be a ton of fun.

Thanks and happy riding


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