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karen122 05-03-10 01:58 PM

Female saddle trouble
 
Hi i am new to riding. I am 6 foot 1 and weigh about 263. When i ride i have pain and pressure between the legs. Not actually on the siting bones if you catch my drift. My husband got me a new seat. Name brand rosie. Other than that everything is comfortable. We have went on long rides like 17 miles. We have tried adjusting the seat and nothing works can someone please help me with this issue. I love riding but not with the pain and pressure. Thanks

eraven 05-03-10 02:06 PM

The saddle i got her is the Terry Rosie

RonH 05-03-10 02:11 PM

Are you sure the saddle is wide enough so that you're sitting on your sit bones?
I had a Terry Fly (men's) and after a few years discovered that the saddle wasn't quite wide enough to fit my sit bones.:o
Specialized has a sit bones measuring device. I'm now riding a Specialized Phenom. :thumb:

CliftonGK1 05-03-10 02:15 PM

First question (IMO) has to be: What do you wear while riding?
Looking at the Rosie saddle, it's not a really wide or massively padded saddle so I don't think that's going to be the immediate cause for pressure. I'm going to venture a guess and say that what you're wearing is likely to be bunching (or has a center seam) and causing the problem.

chipcom 05-03-10 02:16 PM

You need to look at your complete riding position, not just the saddle position.
It's kind of hard to give you specifics without seeing you, the bike, or you on the bike...you might consider having a fit session at your local bike shop, rather than posting pics in an internet forum.

One small piece of advice I can give....try rolling your hips forward and arching your back so that your sit bones are doing the bulk of supporting your weight there. Then, you want the bike to fit so your weight is evenly distributed between the three points of support...your sit bones, your hands and your feet.

you may find this link helpful
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm

Also....a decent pair of bike shorts...or at least shorts/pants with flat seams, will help too.

Finally, if you PM Siu Blue Wind she can get you access to the women's only forum where you might get some great advice from other women who have had the same issues.

socalrider 05-03-10 03:03 PM

Here is my take.. People get convinced by having a super padded saddle that it will be more comfortable, while I have found over my 25+ years of riding that the opposite is more true.. You need a fairly firm saddle with a little padding for more maximum comfort.. I know this is contrary to logic but I have found this to be true..

When you read the words plush or extra padding run away from that saddle..

karen122 05-03-10 03:29 PM

saddle
 
I just wanted to answer a few questions. My saddle isnt a big padded one. So i dont think thats it. I do wear bike shorts. They arent loose or bunching. When i sit on the saddle i feel my sitting bones so i dont think the saddle is to small. Im not sure whats going on.

barturtle 05-03-10 03:43 PM

Rules to follow when adjusting seats:

Never adjust more than one axis at a time (height, reach, angle, rotation)
Very small adjustments can make for dramatic results

The first or second saddle you try may still not be the right one for your body.

socalrider 05-03-10 06:06 PM

are you using a level when you check the saddle angle, slight variations can make a huge difference.. Most people do best when it is perfectly level or slightly angled up..

eraven 05-03-10 06:21 PM

no we didnt use a level just got the seat to a comfortable spot where she didnt feel like she was sliding off the seat

karen122 05-03-10 07:00 PM

Ok maybe im wrong but isnt that a little extreme having to use a level. I mean it dont have to be exctly perfect down to the letter. We have tried adjusting it little by little and i think we tried just about every angle there is. If there are any women out there that have been in my shoes please help me out. My sitting bones are fine it puts pressure on my female area. My saddle is a terry rosie maybe i have the wrong one but would like a womans opinion on this matter. Maybe from someone that has been in my shoes. Thanks everyone for the help and all opinions are welcome. I will take all the help i can get.

Nola_Gal 05-03-10 07:52 PM

I'm not familiar with the saddle but with that being said, I think the comments about the angle of the saddle are probably on the right track. Think about 'perching' on the saddle using your sitt bones...you need to find the angle at which these bones support the weight and not the sensitive parts. Starting with the seat level is usually a good starting point. I have a brooks b-17 saddle and need to have the nose pointed just slightly up in order to keep the weigh focused on the sitt bones which rest on the rear of the saddle.

Do you have a picture of your bike that you could post? Sometimes seeing the set-up will help catch something the rest of us are missing.

Nola_Gal 05-03-10 07:57 PM

Another question...what is your riding position like? Are you pretty leaned over as with a road bike or more upright like a hybrid?

deep_sky 05-03-10 08:16 PM

I have not ridden any of the saddles you have mentioned, OP, but I am female and a clyde at 175, and have suffered from ladybidness pain for some time. I just recently did a 100k, and the last 10 miles I had to stand up every few minutes to ease the burning agony. After that ride I took the saddle and tossed it in the bike junk box. Took myself to a Specialized dealer, had them measure my sitbones to evaluate what width saddle I need, and I ended up with the Avatar Gel 155 (currently doing some extended testing). It is wider than I expected to need (I had thought the previous saddle was too wide), and due to the cutout, there is virtually no pressure on the ladybidness. My sitbones are actually sore and need some time to acclimate, I guess I wasn't sitting on them nearly so firmly as I thought. There are also plenty of women's specific saddles made by specialized if you want more padding. I prefer moderate firm padding in minimal quantities, and the saddle I have now is pretty close to that, maybe a touch softer.

I would first get measured by a Specialized dealer (Fizik and Bontrager also have sitbone measurement devices as well, you could look for those dealers too) and get measured first of all. They don't necessarily have a test saddle program, but if you protect the rails and don't damage the saddle at all, you can return it if its in like new condition, if the saddle does not work out for you.

I spent months on my previous saddle, trying to adjust every possible axis, and finally I just snapped and gave up on it. I was sitting on my sitbones, but I was also sitting on my ladybidness somewhat, which was causing extreme tenderness and irritation.

eraven 05-03-10 09:40 PM

Thanks for all the responses I think we my have it, I shortened the cockpit to fit her more upright position and tested it on the trainer big test tomorrow on the MUP around the lake

FlatSix911 05-03-10 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deep_sky (Post 10760994)
I have not ridden any of the saddles you have mentioned, OP, but I am female and a clyde at 175, and have suffered from ladybidness pain for some time. I just recently did a 100k, and the last 10 miles I had to stand up every few minutes to ease the burning agony. After that ride I took the saddle and tossed it in the bike junk box. Took myself to a Specialized dealer, had them measure my sitbones to evaluate what width saddle I need, and I ended up with the Avatar Gel 155 (currently doing some extended testing). It is wider than I expected to need (I had thought the previous saddle was too wide), and due to the cutout, there is virtually no pressure on the ladybidness. My sitbones are actually sore and need some time to acclimate, I guess I wasn't sitting on them nearly so firmly as I thought. There are also plenty of women's specific saddles made by specialized if you want more padding. I prefer moderate firm padding in minimal quantities, and the saddle I have now is pretty close to that, maybe a touch softer.

I would first get measured by a Specialized dealer (Fizik and Bontrager also have sitbone measurement devices as well, you could look for those dealers too) and get measured first of all. They don't necessarily have a test saddle program, but if you protect the rails and don't damage the saddle at all, you can return it if its in like new condition, if the saddle does not work out for you.

I spent months on my previous saddle, trying to adjust every possible axis, and finally I just snapped and gave up on it. I was sitting on my sitbones, but I was also sitting on my ladybidness somewhat, which was causing extreme tenderness and irritation.

ladybidness?

deep_sky 05-03-10 10:02 PM

Some people are more "sensitive" than others, so I call the parts of the female anatomy "ladybidness" to both sum up the parts and not get people all huffy over the proper medical terms for said female anatomy.

FlatSix911 05-03-10 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deep_sky (Post 10761497)
Some people are more "sensitive" than others, so I call the parts of the female anatomy "ladybidness" to both sum up the parts and not get people all huffy over the proper medical terms for said female anatomy.

Got it ... my wife just says privates :thumb:

Carbonfiberboy 05-03-10 11:22 PM

Looking at the Rosie, I think the cutout may be too narrow and squishing down the foam makes it even narrower. I'm a male and have that problem with most Terry saddles - my weight makes the cutout too narrow for my comfort. Try the Specialized Jett or at least sit on one at the dealer. Wife has two and these are the only saddles that don't smash her girly bits, and she's tried a few. They are a a little wider in the nose, so make sure friction there won't be an issue, either. And with these saddles, the dealer can match the saddle width to your sitbones.


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