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    life preserver pedals

    On the recent Tour de Cure I participated in, I aggravated an old knee injury. This time much worse than ever before. I sought medical attention and after poking, prodding, MRIs, and second opinions, it was determined that I have torn the meniscus in my right knee. It's rather painful at times but HTFU right? The knee will be scoped in early July and with any luck I should be back to normal by mid August.

    Anyways, I suspect my current pedals are worn out. The right one creaks horribly along the spindle and I suspect the whole set needs replaced. Currently I am using Deore SPD clip less pedals and I think something with a little more float may be in order. I spoke with a salesman at an LBS and he recommended the LOOK Keos with the red shoe thingies for maximum float.

    I was wondering if anyone would agree that new pedals with more float might be helpful, if so would anyone have any advice on SPD compatible pedals with gratuitous amounts of float so I don't have to buy new shoes too? Am I barking up the wrong tree and float isnít the problem?

    Thanks!

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    The looks give quite a bit of float. But if its that bad why not ditch the clip-ins and run a platform pedal and regular shoes for the time being? I promise that clip-ins do not make you faster. Also how is your saddle height? Knee pains are one of those things you want to let heal and don't aggravate. Do not use HTFU for knee pains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canopus View Post
    The looks give quite a bit of float. But if its that bad why not ditch the clip-ins and run a platform pedal and regular shoes for the time being? I promise that clip-ins do not make you faster. Also how is your saddle height? Knee pains are one of those things you want to let heal and don't aggravate. Do not use HTFU for knee pains.
    +1~!

    Higher cadence, no standing on the pegs for a while, stuff like that. FYI - meniscus tears are right up there with ACL issues - the difference is, you can get a brace for ACL problems, but *not* for meniscus issues. Yes, you can ride reasonably soon after the scope, but full and complete healing can take upwards of a year (don't mean to be a bummer)...

    The only suggestion to add - I've not used clipless pedals, but to tear the meniscus with no trauma usually means other knee issues, or a repetitive motion with *bad* alignment (as in heel in or heel out too much) - food for thought - am *NOT* a DR of any kind - just 30 odd years of knee issues
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    My meniscus is nearly gone and I really like my speedplay pedals - check the speedplay website to see if they're compatible with your shoes. If for some reason they're not, I'd say more float is better than less, and if your current pedals are fixed, it'll feel weird while you get used to them.

    And Peter - you can get braces for meniscus issues - I have an unloader brace that I use when I'm walking extensively or when I go play with the kids... I think it helps me but obviously, that's something my doctor prescribed and not something I'd say "hey, go get one" to people.

    http://osteoarthritis.about.com/od/k...ader_brace.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    And Peter - you can get braces for meniscus issues - I have an unloader brace that I use when I'm walking extensively or when I go play with the kids... I think it helps me but obviously, that's something my doctor prescribed and not something I'd say "hey, go get one" to people.

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    Learn something every day As I'm not a DR, I can not say what long-term use would do. I do know by 2004 (a 18yr gap between knee DRs) I had no meniscus left, and was completely bone on bone - at that time, use of *any* type of brace was discouraged as I was losing muscle tone in the quads, and they felt the use of any type of brace would worsen it. That said, opinions and knowledge seems to change almost daily - the best answer, talk to a DR you trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bautieri View Post
    I was wondering if anyone would agree that new pedals with more float might be helpful, if so would anyone have any advice on SPD compatible pedals with gratuitous amounts of float so I don't have to buy new shoes too? Am I barking up the wrong tree and float isnít the problem?
    Hard to say if new pedals will help. For a long time, I thought I had knee problems and needed a pedal with a lot of float. Turns out I just didn't have my cleats in the right place nor my seat at the right height. After getting a professional fit, I now have no problem with the same SPD pedals I used to hate...

    If you want to stick with a 2-bolt cleat, try Crank Brothers or Speedplay Frogs. Crank Brothers' Smarty or Candy are similar in surface area to typical Shimano SPD pedals and provide quite a bit of float. This also means that you have to twist your heel further before they release, though. Speedplay's Frog is the MTB version of their popular free-float pedals.

    If you decide to move to a road pedal and shoe, I'd add SpeedPlay and Shimano SPD-SL pedals to the mix in addition to Look Keo. I used to use Look Delta pedals on my road bike. They're nice pedals, but I honestly think the 2-sided MTB designs are easier to clip and unclip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post
    +1~!

    The only suggestion to add - I've not used clipless pedals, but to tear the meniscus with no trauma usually means other knee issues, or a repetitive motion with *bad* alignment (as in heel in or heel out too much) - food for thought - am *NOT* a DR of any kind - just 30 odd years of knee issues
    This is just the culmination of years of abuse. Initially, it was injured many years ago during sports. It has now come to the point of needed something major done to it.
    Sorry bau, I have nothing useful to add about the pedals, except that I would think more float is better.
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    In order to reduce weight, on my feet, I use Crocs and cheep light weight Walmart pedel. If i was having any discomfort with my knees I made adjustments to the seat height or seat position front to back.

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    Great advice so far, thanks everyone!

    I think once I get the clear to ride my bike after the surgery I am going to go with a set of platforms and take it easy for awhile. I really love clipless pedals so at some point later on I'll be looking at a different set up, the offerings from speedplay look really neat.

    Once again, thank you much

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    Food-for-thought? You *may* want lighter pedals for less overall weight, but consider this?

    By adding *heavier* pedals, you are making the "Flywheel" of your bike heavier, which is a *GOOD* thing! With a heavier flywheel, while it takes more effort to get up to speed, once obtained, it continues to rotate easier - same would be true of wheels - ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post
    Food-for-thought? You *may* want lighter pedals for less overall weight, but consider this?

    By adding *heavier* pedals, you are making the "Flywheel" of your bike heavier, which is a *GOOD* thing! With a heavier flywheel, while it takes more effort to get up to speed, once obtained, it continues to rotate easier - same would be true of wheels - ...
    Job 34:35

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    Job 34:35


    Best read-up on flywheels then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_C View Post


    Best read-up on flywheels then...
    Only if you read up on bikes. Pay attention to the large number of cyclists who want to make their bikes lighter, particularly the pedals. Then contemplate what's gained for a young man in hill country from putting a "heavier flywheel" on his bike.

    Then read Job 34:35 again. :-)

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