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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 06-14-10, 11:49 AM   #1
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Velocity Chukker or Dyad

I'm about to build some wheels for my road bike. When I first started riding, I was 350 pounds. I'm at 260 now. I mention this because it has skewed my views of what I require. On my loaded touring/commuting bike I have 26" Velocity Psychos. Very nice, weigh a ton. Perfect for their application.

I performed a search, but I'm not interested in what's the strongest of the two are, I'm interested in what is suitable to road riding, maybe light loads on a road bike without weighing a ton as this is my "fast" bike? I would like put together some wheels and not worry bout rim breakage for a good half decade.

I'm of course looking at 700c 36 hole. I'm a pretty capable wheel builder, but I don't have much experience in anything but super strong rims.
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Old 06-14-10, 12:00 PM   #2
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The Chukker weighs a ton. Both the Chukker and Dyad are wide enough that I think you'll need a 28mm, or preferably wider, tire. For my disc-brake equipped touring bike, I used 700c Velocity Synergy OC rims front and rear. They're about the same weight as the Dyad, will take a 25mm tire, and I like the fact that the off-center drilling create more even spoke tension between the drive and non-drive sides of the wheel...
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I've got a Dyad on the rear of my hybrid. While I'm not a weight weenie and I'm certainly not on a speedster road bike, the Dyad seems to be a solid, fairly lightweight wheel. My understanding is the Chukker is designed more as a wheel for 29ers, so my relatively uneducated tendency would be to say the Dyad's a better fit for road riding out of those two rims.

I have 35mm tires on mine now, plan on 32s next time I replace the tires and could probably go go as narrow as 28 if I wanted to.

I'm 290ish, down from the 320s and can certainly vouch for the strength of the rim if properly built up. Mine has served me well for over 1500 miles now. Still true and all spokes still properly tensioned.
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Chukker is 32 mm and Dyad 22 mm........Why not a Deep V (30MM), plenty roadriders use them.

Because it's narrow? I use a 25 on my roadie and a 28 on our tandem Deep V's no problem.
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Chukker is 32 mm and Dyad 22 mm........Why not a Deep V (30MM), plenty roadriders use them.
I looked into that and the width of the Deep V turns me off to them. While I won't be running 35mm tires, there is a good possibility I'll be running 28 or 32s. I like the option of running some of the bigger ones at least.

I understand there is some controversy if Deep Vs can run larger tires, but I've had enough issues with the Psycho's being too wide for tires I would like not to chance having a rim to narrow. Unless of course you have a very convincing argument.
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Unless you were wanting to be a Clyde-Cyclocrosser, I'd go with the Dyad...unless you thought you may want to run narrower than 28mm tires at some point. I've got Dyads 36H on my Jamis and they were plenty tough for me all the way from 285 lbs. I'm down to 235 now and am thinking of some Velocity Fusions, so i can run 25s someday on my road bike, though for now I really still like 28s. The Fusions weigh about the same as the Dyad, but trade a deeper, narrow cross section for the wider, shallower version of the Dyad.

I think at your weight and usage (pretty similar to mine) the Dyads are your best bet at the moment.
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If you're interested in a wider rim for 32mm tires (any old road rim will handle a 28 just fine), then you might check out the Alex Adventurer, Sun CR18, or Sasla Delgado Cross. The wider profile gives less deformation on the sidewall for tires like a 32 or a 35mm, letting you run lower pressures without much difference in the road feel of the tire.
For a strong wheel and 28mm tires I'd go with a DT Swiss 465 (replacement name for the RR1.1). I had those for a few years before switching to my CR18 rims, and the DTs handled everything up to my 35mm winter studs just fine.
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Unless of course you have a very convincing argument.
Nope, 28's the biggest I've run on a Deep V, no experience with the wider tires although at 260 lbs, 28's should be fine for "roadriding" as you mentioned.
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Running Velocity Dyads, 36 front 40 back, with 35mm Pasellas. I love em. I'm about 250 lbs.
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I bought a set of the Dyad's after reading the description on Peter White's website. Fact, I had Peter lace them for me as well...32 spokes in the front and 36 in the rear.

I'm an even 270, and while I don't jump curbs or ride trails too much...I'm less about speed and more about endurance and toughness. I've probably put about 1000 miles on 'em and they're still dead-true

I paired them with a set of 38mm Marathon XR's and ride both street and gravel trails with comfort and confidence.
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I bought a set of the Dyad's after reading the description on Peter White's website. Fact, I had Peter lace them for me as well...32 spokes in the front and 36 in the rear.

I'm an even 270, and while I don't jump curbs or ride trails too much...I'm less about speed and more about endurance and toughness. I've probably put about 1000 miles on 'em and they're still dead-true

I paired them with a set of 38mm Marathon XR's and ride both street and gravel trails with comfort and confidence.
Thank you, this is exactly what I'm looking for. You guys have assured me about the Dyads. Thanks.
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