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Old 06-15-10, 08:22 AM   #1
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SEPA Clyde Ride: Perkiomen Trail, Mont Clare to Schwenksville, June 19, 10:00 AM

I'm leaving 10:00 AM from the Longford Road trailhead on the Schuylkill River Trail, and turning onto the Perkiomen Trail for a ride to Schwenksville. Lunch stop will be Mooches, near the halfway point. Total miles should be about 30.

The Perkiomen Trail is crushed gravel with some paved portions. Overall there is no more than a two per cent grade, with some individual climbs of more than that. We are turning around before the big climb at Spring Mount.

The trail follows Perkiomen Creek from its confluence with the Schuylkill River north. Much of the trail is shaded. Water and food can be purchased in Collegeville and Schwenksville. Free water and bathrooms are in Oaks and Schwenksville.
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Old 06-15-10, 11:56 AM   #2
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BTW, this is a no-drop ride. That said, we'll try to be faster than this fellow:



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Old 06-15-10, 07:50 PM   #3
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Darn........ On call again,

On a more serious note, I saved one of that guys friends from the middle of Whitehorse Road today. All green and @ 4.5" across.
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Old 06-16-10, 12:58 AM   #4
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My mother in-law went into the hospital Monday. So I need to stay close until stuff settles down or I would be there~!
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Old 06-16-10, 05:49 AM   #5
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My mother in-law went into the hospital Monday. So I need to stay close until stuff settles down or I would be there~!
Another seven hour drive for a four hour ride?!?
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I'm hooked??

(that's seven hours each way too )
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I got the bike just about totally ready to go. I put a new tube that's the correct size in the back tire, got a spare tube for in case of a flat, tire levers, small pump and an underseat bag to fit everything but the pump which has its own mount. All that is left is to clean and lube a few things and everything should be golden.

I also picked up a used Brooks B17 on the cheap. It's one of the "special" models with the copper rivets. It shows signs of use but is otherwise fine for the next 10 years or so. If I ever get a new one I'll put this one on my ratty Varsity.

Can't wait 'till Saturday...
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You gives me directions from Philly on bike I will meet you on this Perkiomen Trail. I am a Jersey boy, so.... I promise to be on time this time, unlike last time with Stevel610. But I would rather ride up and meet you, even if it means riding through the hood in the early hours
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Old 06-17-10, 10:44 PM   #9
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You gives me directions from Philly on bike I will meet you on this Perkiomen Trail. I am a Jersey boy, so.... I promise to be on time this time, unlike last time with Stevel610. But I would rather ride up and meet you, even if it means riding through the hood in the early hours
Follow the Schuylkill River Trail up past Valley Forge. Keep going until you see the signs.

BTW, you rode on the Perkiomen Trail with Stevel610. It's the same trail.
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Follow the Schuylkill River Trail up past Valley Forge. Keep going until you see the signs.

BTW, you rode on the Perkiomen Trail with Stevel610. It's the same trail.
Trailhead location:

http://www.schuylkillrivertrail.com/...rt_providence/

While the trailhead is in the community of Mont Clare, note that it's called Port Providence.
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Who all's coming?

In any case I'll be there by 10.
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Who all's coming?

In any case I'll be there by 10.
Looks like you and me, kid. And Mdoherty if he makes it.
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Looks like you and me, kid. And Mdoherty if he makes it.
We got a late start, and must have missed Mdohertyjr. We rode from Mont Clare to the start of the climb into Spring Mount, stopped at Moccia's for lunch, had a spoke on my rear wheel repaired at Tailwinds Bike Shop, and rode back. 30 miles round trip. Also, BlueTrane and I geeked out on brass and wind instruments.....

BlueTrane: ...Adolphe Sax also invented valves for trumpets.
The Historian: Wait, what about Haydn's concerto? That was written in 1796. It was the first work for the trumpet that called for the solo instrument to play a chromatic scale.
BlueTrane: But it didn't use valves.
The Historian: You're right. It was a keyed trumpet, not a valved one.

Photos to come. I promise no photos of brass instruments.
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<music geek mode activated>

The conversation wasn't quite worded exactly that way (but was similar), anyways here's a bit about Adolphe's addition to trumpets, shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia:

In 1841, Sax relocated permanently to Paris and began work on a new set of instruments which were exhibited there in 1844. These were valved bugles, and although he had not invented the instrument itself, his examples were so much more successful than those of his rivals that they became known as saxhorns. They range in approximately seven different sizes, and paved the path to the creation of the flugelhorn. Today, they are widely used in concert bands and sometimes in orchestras. The saxhorn also laid the groundwork for the modern euphonium.

So, as I thought I had stated originally, he perfected (not invented) valves for the trumpet and similar instruments. He made valves practical and useable for actual music and not some strange compromise.

Betcha thought he only made the saxophone, huh?

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<music geek mode activated>

The conversation wasn't quite worded exactly that way (but was similar), anyways here's a bit about Adolphe's addition to trumpets, shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia:

In 1841, Sax relocated permanently to Paris and began work on a new set of instruments which were exhibited there in 1844. These were valved bugles, and although he had not invented the instrument itself, his examples were so much more successful than those of his rivals that they became known as saxhorns. They range in approximately seven different sizes, and paved the path to the creation of the flugelhorn. Today, they are widely used in concert bands and sometimes in orchestras. The saxhorn also laid the groundwork for the modern euphonium.

So, as I thought I had stated originally, he perfected (not invented) valves for the trumpet and similar instruments. He made valves practical and useable for actual music and not some strange compromise.

Betcha thought he only made the saxophone, huh?

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"The conversation wasn't quite worded exactly that way (but was similar)..."

Merely corroborative detail, Bluetrane2028, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative. :-)

And it could have been worse. I could have posted about Mozart's Clarinet Concerto.

If you haven't guessed by now, Bluetrane2028 is a musician. I'm a failed pianist, and while I can't play, I try to be knowledgeable enough on music to have an intelligent discussions with instrumentalists. Or at least offending them with stupid comments.
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We got a late start, and must have missed Mdohertyjr. We rode from Mont Clare to the start of the climb into Spring Mount, stopped at Moccia's for lunch, had a spoke on my rear wheel repaired at Tailwinds Bike Shop, and rode back. 30 miles round trip.
At Oaks, the dam on the Perkiomen Creek.



Bluetrane shopping at a yard sale along the trail. He picked up a canteen for a buck. I'm a recovering water-container purchaser, so I passed up on it.



Near the halfway point.



Bluetrane looking at the tracks outside Moccia's, our lunch stop. The diner uses the old station house on the Perkiomen Railroad.



Tailwinds Bike Shop fixing my broken spoke. I have no idea when or how it was broken. Perhaps on the ride up the trail? Was it broken on the Thun Trail ride last week? I know it was fine on the Tour de Cure in May.




Trail photo just north of Oaks.



Bluetrane at the bridge just outside of Mont Clare.

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Thanks for the photos! I am extremely familiar with that trail, and it's nice to see pictures of my old riding area.

Is there still the sign hawking "Tomatoes, Water and MORE" near where the trail goes under an underpass? Did you guys check out the Old Poole Farm in Schwenksville where the Philadelphia Folk Festival is held (a lot of memories that I can't seem to recall connected with that event)?
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Sounds like a good time. I'm sorry I missed it. Will have to meet you guys for the next ride / music geek conversation.

(yes, I'm a multi-instrumentalist as well.)
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Thanks for the photos! I am extremely familiar with that trail, and it's nice to see pictures of my old riding area.

Is there still the sign hawking "Tomatoes, Water and MORE" near where the trail goes under an underpass? Did you guys check out the Old Poole Farm in Schwenksville where the Philadelphia Folk Festival is held (a lot of memories that I can't seem to recall connected with that event)?
Unfortunately, we didn't get that far north.
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Sounds like a good time. I'm sorry I missed it. Will have to meet you guys for the next ride / music geek conversation.

(yes, I'm a multi-instrumentalist as well.)
Will you bring your tuba? It will fit on your trike.
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