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timmythology 07-28-10 08:20 PM

perspective
 
So this is the route I am thinking for my first 200k.

http://www.napolitano.it/?p=113

Am I getting to ambitious?

jonathanb715 07-28-10 08:34 PM

What's the longest ride you've done to date? If you're doing 80 - 100 mile rides already, this will probably be fine - not a lot of climbing, and someone else has figured out where to get water, etc. The only issue is that it will be mostly uphill all the way back - not a steep grade,to be sure, but uphill. I like rides that finish mostly downhill:)

JB

timmythology 07-28-10 08:54 PM

Longest ride is 118, I can do 60-100 with some comfort left over.

Mostly wondering on hill's, and not sure about the mile to Km conversion on the graph.

CliftonGK1 07-29-10 08:20 AM

The one big peak on that graph is hit twice since it's an out 'n' back.

Going, you'll do 200' of climbing in about 6.25 miles, between miles 34 and 40-ish.
Coming back you'll climb closer to 400' in around 10.5 miles, between miles 70 and 80-ish.

It's a good route for a first 200k, IMO. No really horrible climbs. Just be sure to plan your water carefully since it sounds like controls and water availability are fairly sparse.

Now this would be a rough one for a first 200k... The Woodinville-Granite Falls elevation profile:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v0UdZVJgBk...%2BProfile.jpg

jr59 07-29-10 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 (Post 11194771)
The one big peak on that graph is hit twice since it's an out 'n' back.

Going, you'll do 200' of climbing in about 6.25 miles, between miles 34 and 40-ish.
Coming back you'll climb closer to 400' in around 10.5 miles, between miles 70 and 80-ish.

It's a good route for a first 200k, IMO. No really horrible climbs. Just be sure to plan your water carefully since it sounds like controls and water availability are fairly sparse.

Now this would be a rough one for a first 200k... The Woodinville-Granite Falls elevation profile:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v0UdZVJgBk...%2BProfile.jpg


Clifton, I wouldn't do that one with a motorcycle. Man-O-Man, that climb at 120 would be a killer. :(

CliftonGK1 07-29-10 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jr59 (Post 11194867)
Clifton, I wouldn't do that one with a motorcycle. Man-O-Man, that climb at 120 would be a killer. :(

Yeah, this course was my first randonneuring DNF, after the peak around mile 105. Assuming all goes well with my August and September rides (300k on 08-07, 400k on 08-21, 600k on 09-11/12), I'm going back in October for a grudge match against the W'ville-Granite Falls 200k.

Then I can work on this one: The Issaquah Alps 200k. 9,500' total.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v0UdZVJgBk...%2BProfile.jpg

jr59 07-29-10 09:18 AM

You are truly a pain liking biker. Both of those ride I'll do without. Thank-you NO!

My motto these days is NO RIDES, with the words hill, hot, horrible, death or ANYTHING like these. I do not go to.

And i have done all of those rides at least once. NEVER AGAIN! :)

CliftonGK1 07-29-10 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr59 (Post 11195147)
You are truly a pain liking biker. Both of those ride I'll do without. Thank-you NO!

My motto these days is NO RIDES, with the words hill, hot, horrible, death or ANYTHING like these. I do not go to.

And i have done all of those rides at least once. NEVER AGAIN! :)

I think all rando clubs have their own "pain" quirks they're known for. Hills, heat, torturously bad road conditions, few support controls, etc. The Seattle Randos happen to be one of those "hill loving" clubs. I think it's a PNW thing, because BC Randos and OR Randos are much the same way.

timmythology 07-29-10 08:25 PM

thanks Cliff, I was looking at you for perspective:)

My plan is to leave at 6amish, so I can get done before dark. The store opens at 8am, So I figure with two bottles, and a camel pak I can make it to Jewel where the reserve is. Than I can have the store on the way back. My bigger concern is getting to my car before dark, since I don't have great lights. Thanks.
So I'll have capacity for around 100oz of fluids, but I can drink 40oz every 20 miles:)

CliftonGK1 07-30-10 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by timmythology (Post 11198768)
thanks Cliff, I was looking at you for perspective:)

My plan is to leave at 6amish, so I can get done before dark. The store opens at 8am, So I figure with two bottles, and a camel pak I can make it to Jewel where the reserve is. Than I can have the store on the way back. My bigger concern is getting to my car before dark, since I don't have great lights. Thanks.
So I'll have capacity for around 100oz of fluids, but I can drink 40oz every 20 miles:)

Are you riding this for RUSA credit? If your start time is 06:00, you'll be back before it's dark. 13h 30m for a 200k means that the latest you'll be out is 21:30 and it isn't fully dark yet. Blinkies in back and maybe a camping lamp on your helmet.

timmythology 08-01-10 07:18 PM

Not for RUSA, just for my self. At this time I have found myself in a situation where I can't really fit any where in groups. I also find the solitude of a solo ride is nice. After reading some of your post I started looking at LD, found the Or Randonneuers and am looking at their permanets.

So I gave myself a goal, a 200k by the end of September.

I am going to give it a shot, and if it goes well, I'll keep going. If not I'll continue with the 100k:)

CliftonGK1 08-01-10 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmythology (Post 11213122)
Not for RUSA, just for my self. At this time I have found myself in a situation where I can't really fit any where in groups. I also find the solitude of a solo ride is nice. After reading some of your post I started looking at LD, found the Or Randonneuers and am looking at their permanets.

So I gave myself a goal, a 200k by the end of September.

I am going to give it a shot, and if it goes well, I'll keep going. If not I'll continue with the 100k:)

The nice thing with rando groups is that you don't need to show up to a ton of events. I know plenty of riders with SIR who come out for a couple 100 and 200k events in a year, but the rest of the time they ride solo to go after an R-12 or whatever distance award they're after.


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