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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 08-01-10, 02:14 AM   #1
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getting ideas in my head....

I've just started looking around again for a C&V road bike, lugged steel frame, 80's vintage, Japanese or something similarly nice.

Found a Paramount Series 5 PDG but the seller wont ship, and hasn't replied to my last email almost 3 days ago now (even tho my cousin can pick it up).

The local market around here is nil. No, worse than that, really.

I've LONG thought of ordering a Bob Jackson frame, then just save my pennies for a decent groupset, hoops and other necessary parts. Not sure how much a frame would cost - the base off-the-peg frames seem very reasonable, but I wonder how much say, a lugged 853 frame would add. Probably contact them come Monday.

Likewise I would LOVE to get a Japanese domestic market Panasonic frameset, but....roundtrip tickets to Japan are awfully expensive, and I bet that Customs fella is a ***** to deal with.

There's a certain bike on ebay right now that's one of my personal grails, and by the looks of it, a lot of others certain to have more cash than me.

Only one local bike I might be able to look at tomorrow - it's a '00 Schwinn Peloton, welded 853 frame. Might be a good buy or not?

I put a deposit on a 2011 Allez Double steelie, at least I would have a road bike to RIDE instead of just staring at on a computer screen. But to hear everyone tell it I can somehow find a good bike for $100....well, seems like everywhere but here.

So, whaddya think - a Paramount PDG OS, or a welded 853 frame, or a custom/semi-custom Bob Jackson, or call Yellow Jersey and see if they can get a Panasonic? Pretty wide range of costs here, from about 500 on up to 1500-ish, and frankly I'm just plain frustrated with all the digging,etc. I have a Trek 7200 hybrid, and while it's been an okay bike and I rode it a fair bit last summer till I got kidney stones (ouchie, but squeezed 'em all out now I think, feeling better). The more I rode the Trek, the more I wanted and still want to get a road bike, and every time I've test ridden a road bike I've felt right at home on it.

Thoughts, anyone?

fyi I'm right around 325# at the moment, No problems with the Trek's rims but those are pretty sturdy (and heavy).

Tom

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Old 08-01-10, 10:45 AM   #2
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A custom Jackson would be great but the wait list for getting a frame is pretty long.. I have a friend who bought an 853 Peloton and it is definitely a nice bike.. Kind of a sleeper, not many people except collectors know about that frame, the 853 tubing was very difficult to work with so only a few builders used it but it was a nice light steel frame that would be a great ride for anyone..
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Well its not official till I fork over the money and bring it home, but after a little haggling I t hink I may have made my first catch....looked at the Peloton today, it was owned a by a skinny fella about 125# or so. Poor fella probably got the fright of his life when I stepped out of the truck. Anyways, it had Rolf rims of some model or other, and I'm pretty sure I had more fingers and toes than the wheels had spokes He wouldn't come down, so I went home, tried to get hold of a fella about an old Trek 420 but apparently he sold it since he never replied. Might have been a good catch, just no telling. Anyways, I thought hmmm....so I texted the guy and told him he could have the wheels for my original offer, he countered with an offer to keep the saddle and pedals. I wanted to keep the saddle (gotta have one to ride, and no spare), but offered to lose the pedals (older Looks) since I've got some regular platforms to get me by till I can find some shoes that fit my wide feet without giving me corns. I'll post pics, but for now it looks like I got a decent deal on an 853 frame (and a nice looking one at that), and if I still follow thru on the Allez I could probably swap the hoops and ride either bike, assuming I don't get a wheelset before then

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Found a Paramount Series 5 PDG but the seller wont ship, and hasn't replied to my last email almost 3 days ago now (even tho my cousin can pick it up).
Don't deal with the seller. Just have your cousin go and buy it locally and reimburse your cousin. The seller is likely worried about a scam (even though you're not a scammer). I like my 1991 Series-5 PDG; especially if it's in good condition with the original 105sc group, they're a rare find.

"I'm out of town and can't pick up the bike, but I'll send you a cashier's check or money order and my shipping agent will pick it up for me."
Any time I hear that, I counter with "Send your shipping agent with cash to the pick up, and you've got a deal." The idea being that if they can send me a check, they can send it to their shipper just as easily for a cash transaction... but that request is the dealbreaker for scammers.
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