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Old 08-03-10, 10:37 PM   #1
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What is the cheapest way to do GPS that can generate those neat ride reports?

I see a ton of GPS's at amazon - what do I need - what is the cheapest/best solution? I want to do the computer stuff I see you guys doing.
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Old 08-03-10, 10:42 PM   #2
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I paid $300 for a refurbed Garmin 705 on eBay. Not the cheapest, but it came with heart-monitor and cadence. Just check the feedback of sellers before taking the plunge. Im very happy with the unit and it costs $500+ in REI.

The 705 gives the following data:

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/40105664

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Buy a Garmin Edge 305 on eBay. It won't display maps while you're riding, but it will capture your route, elevation changes, etc. If you own, or are planning to buy, a power meter (PowerTap, Quarq, SRM, etc) then you'll have to spring for an Edge 500, 605, or 705.
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If you happen to have a smart phone there may be an option for it as well. Personally I use an Android phone and use an app called My Tracks. It records the route then I export the file to on line sources to generate reports. Though the phone gives me a basic report as well.
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Old 08-04-10, 06:19 AM   #5
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+1 for the droid. A bunch of different apps that all do it. I use runkeeper.
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A couple of things - the Edge 500 really isn't much more expensive than the 305, and is supposed to have vastly superior battery life. My friends who have 305s say it barely goes 8-9 hours on a charge - not a problem unless you are doing centuries or longer rides. THe 500 is rated to 18 hours (I just got mine, so we'll see).

Second, you can get much of the data - everything except the map showing the route - from a computer without GPS. I used a couple of different Sigma models (the latest being the Rox 9.0) that have an altimeter and cadence built in, and come with software that will let you analyze the data just like the various programs for the Garmins. It worked fine when new, but didn't like the cold or getting wet and in little more than a year has died completely, so I don't recommend the Sigma. There are others that have cadence and altimeters (Polar comes to mind, and many people think their altimeters are more accurate than the Garmin's). The benefit is greatly reduced power usage - the Sigma ran on a calculator battery instead of a rechargeable one, and the battery would last 6 months. The Sigma also had a much lower price - although I think the Polars are more expensive, on a par with the Garmins.

Finally, before you buy check ProBikeKit (www.probikekit.com - yes you'd be ordering from overseas, but they have really good prices and shipping is spectacularly fast - I ordered my Garmin on Friday and it got delivered on Monday. From the UK.). For some reason Sigma prices are really high over there, but in general the prices for most cycling stuff is cheaper in the UK, and PBK ships for free most of the time.

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Buy a Garmin Edge 305 on eBay. It won't display maps while you're riding, but it will capture your route, elevation changes, etc. If you own, or are planning to buy, a
power meter (PowerTap, Quarq, SRM, etc) then you'll have to spring for an Edge 500, 605, or 705.
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I tried various apps on my phone but found with all that the phone was dead after a few hours of constant GPS tracking. The 705 that I purchased has been used up to 12+ hours in one day (STP 2010) and still had battery life left. Also, I like my phone to be usable for the rare occurance where I may actually need it on my ride. Last point, on a phone, your obviously not going to get heart-rate, cadence and other "nice to have" features.
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I use an old eTrex with the handlebar mount...not as streamlined as those Edge models (not bike-specific) but I use it for everything...hiking, etc. Then just DL the .gpx file using EasyGPS nad then import it into the a website like ridewithgps.com
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Old 08-04-10, 10:24 AM   #10
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Ok, me being cheap - will this work fine?

http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerun...0939025&sr=8-2

or

http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerun...0939067&sr=1-1
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Old 08-04-10, 10:45 AM   #11
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I tried various apps on my phone but found with all that the phone was dead after a few hours of constant GPS tracking. The 705 that I purchased has been used up to 12+ hours in one day (STP 2010) and still had battery life left. Also, I like my phone to be usable for the rare occurance where I may actually need it on my ride. Last point, on a phone, your obviously not going to get heart-rate, cadence and other "nice to have" features.
Interesting... I get over 6 hours on a standard battery with my LG Chocolate 3 (VX-8560) renting a Verizon app for $5/mo. called BiM (Bones In Motion). The data can be downloaded to a free web account and blogged, like this:

http://NoRacer.bimjournals.com

Sometimes, I export the file and post it to my free Trimble Outdoors account for a view like this:

http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/ViewT...?tripId=835296

...or to embed an interactive Google map into the blog (BiM uses a static map for some reason).

Not to be a shill, but BiM also has live tracking where someone can view your bike ride in semi-realtime from a web page.
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If battery time is a concern, the Forerunners are not a good idea. And the display is pretty small for bike use. They are made to be a cross between running and biking. My brother has a forerunner, I have an Edge 305. On a century, he ran out of battery 4 hours in. Brand new, fully charged unit.

I have used the Edge 305 on 9 hour rides, didn't run out of battery. Haven't done a ride longer than that yet.

I've been happy with my 305. The 500 looks like a good option as well. I don't need mapping, so the 305 does all I need for now.
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Old 08-04-10, 11:29 AM   #13
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If battery time is a concern, the Forerunners are not a good idea. And the display is pretty small for bike use. They are made to be a cross between running and biking. My brother has a forerunner, I have an Edge 305. On a century, he ran out of battery 4 hours in. Brand new, fully charged unit.

I have used the Edge 305 on 9 hour rides, didn't run out of battery. Haven't done a ride longer than that yet.

I've been happy with my 305. The 500 looks like a good option as well. I don't need mapping, so the 305 does all I need for now.
I have a Forerunner 305 and use it for my bike trips. I originally got it about 4 years ago to use for walking/hiking, but I find it works fine for biking. Yes, the display is smaller than the Edge models, but it's adequate. I did have to by a handlebar mount for it. You can buy the Garmin bike cadence unit and it will pair with the Forrunner 305. I'm not sure about power meters.



Note that the Forerunner 205 model will not do heart rate monitoring (even if you were to buy a heart rate strap).
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I use Cyclemeter on the iPhone. Works good for shorter trips, but I doubt it would hold up for more than 2.5 hours without a battery pack. Really cheap you could get any number of "GPS loggers" that will give you the map, but none of the telemetry to go with it. Personally if I were to spend "real money" on the problem I would probably end up with the Garmin Edge 500 as it seems like a great bike accessory.
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My Droid gets about 4 hours on a full charge with gps and Pandora running so its good for.50 miles but not a century. I haven't upgraded to extended battery but I plan to.
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Very cheap is mapmyride.com You plug in your route post ride and it gives a pretty detailed summary of what you did. Not so good for MTBs, but fairly accurate for Roadies.
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ILast point, on a phone, your obviously not going to get heart-rate, cadence and other "nice to have" features.
LOL - HR and cadence are what I use the most when I bother to look at or turn on my computer. My cadence is on the low side, tracking it lets me focus on spinning more - which definitely seems to help on long rides. I train using HR zones, and on long rides I know where I need to keep my HR for the effort to be sustainable. Therefore, my HR determines the speed I can ride on long rides, not the other way around. So for me, HR and cadence are what I bought my computer for - all the other stuff is "nice to have".

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I use the Forerunner 305 with bike kit. I find it great size display and connects up to their website and application to give the sexy reports. I keep it charged between runs and rides and have run a slow 4 hour Marathon without a problem.

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Very cheap is mapmyride.com You plug in your route post ride and it gives a pretty detailed summary of what you did. Not so good for MTBs, but fairly accurate for Roadies.
That's what I use, get the graphs then make my own creations. I thought about a Garmin but I'd rather spend my time making videos. Only drawback is the posted ride time etc, but heck, that's what I have my little bike computer fer.

Like any ride, after so many times, the elveation graph doesn't change much. There is also asite called geoladders where one can dig up rides and graphs posted by Garmin users.
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I can't get mapmyride to work right. No matter what I do it won't compute calories. I have my weight and all stats put in - but the calorie thing stays blank.
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LOL - HR and cadence are what I use the most when I bother to look at or turn on my computer. My cadence is on the low side, tracking it lets me focus on spinning more - which definitely seems to help on long rides. I train using HR zones, and on long rides I know where I need to keep my HR for the effort to be sustainable. Therefore, my HR determines the speed I can ride on long rides, not the other way around. So for me, HR and cadence are what I bought my computer for - all the other stuff is "nice to have".

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garmin 305 is probably cheapest. i picked one up at best buy for $135. my sense is that the product is near end of life
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I've had my Garmin 305 for 3 or 4 years. It lasted for a nine hour ride a month ago but that is it's limit. I'm pleased that the battery is still going pretty strong.
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Are Garmin Nuvi's good for general bike navigation. (eg. commuting, turn by turn directions, displaying google maps, ) Is there a best rated model?

Should you fiddle with replacing with second battery after first expires?

If also combining with hiking navigation, would a better choice be a garmin 60csx or Delorme Pn-40? (or other brands?)
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