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    any clydes on kestrel talon?

    I am really interested in this bike, i am 215lbs right now, so i have concerns about bike components holding up obviously. I have ridden plenty of specialized and cannondales etc in my bike search, and will be driving 2 hours to test ride one of these. Anyone have any first hand information on these? I have searched already yes.

    Some say they are great... some say they are too noodly

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    Are you worried about the frame or the components? Kestral is a pioneer in carbon bikes. They know what they are doing. I would suspect anyone who says they are "noodly". More often than not, it's wheels that are the actual culprit.

    How long is your test ride? If it's just a couple miles is really a waste of time (IMO). At 215lbs I doubt your weight is a problem. You'll need to have the wheels re-tensioned after a couple hundred miles, that's about it. You'll have that on any new bike though.
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    well, i have family about 30 min from a kestrel dealer... so, a good way to get away from inlaws and knock out a visit... i hope to ride it at speed, for a few 10 miles or so just to see how the geometry etc feels.

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    I had a Talon for several years - my weight bounces between 205 and 225. The bike held up fine - I only sold it because I got a great deal on a Lynskey, and I wanted a bike with a taller head tube and slightly more relaxed geometry. In those 3 years I probably put close to 20,000 miles on it. The only issue I had was crash damage - I broke a chain during the Death Ride, and it was around 5 am and still dark so I didn't realize what had happened and kept pedaling until the wheel locked up - took out the RD and cracked the seat stay. Not the fault of the frame, though - and Kestrel gave me a decent discount on a replacement.

    Note that my Talon was the original model, not the SL (or lightweight) and not the current one - they kept the same kind of aero theme on the styling, but the tube shapes look pretty different on the new one.

    FWIW, the ride on the Talon was really very good. Much like the stereotypical carbon bike, it excelled at dampening vibration - very little road buzz got through the fork to the handlebars or through the frame to the saddle, even on the worst chip seal. My titanium Lynskey comes close (actually, the Edge fork on the Lynskey is probably better at this than the Kestrel fork), but has a different, livelier feel. Both are very good. The Talon has some pretty aggressive geometry - something to watch out for. A friend who borrowed it said it was a crit bike, pure and simple. Nimble to the point of being nervous, it's built to take corners at high speeds and accelerate out of them. If you are looking for something like a Specialized Roubaix, this might not be your bike. The head tube is also pretty short - if you want the handlebars up near your saddle height it might be hard to achieve with this frame.

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    Edit: I'm attaching a photo so you can see what my saddle to bar drop looked like. I have typical proportions (I'm 5'10" and this was a 55cm bike), and I'd used the maximum number of spacers recommended by Kestrel for that fork, along with the stem flipped up.

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    I am riding a 2004 Talon SL since May. I started at around 260lbs and am now down to 219lbs and it has held up just fine. This is my first road bike, so I don't have too much experience, but the bike always feels solid to me. It is very responsive and good on climbs. It has been a pleasure to ride so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam_mac84 View Post
    I am really interested in this bike, i am 215lbs right now, so i have concerns about bike components holding up obviously. I have ridden plenty of specialized and cannondales etc in my bike search, and will be driving 2 hours to test ride one of these. Anyone have any first hand information on these? I have searched already yes.
    I assume it's the weight and stories about carbon failures that bothers you, and not something particular to that bike? There's a thread about Clydes on carbon frames you should have a look at.

    I'm 238 at present, and on a Cervelo RS as of yesterday evening. Obviously I don't have enough miles on it to give you a long-term durability report, but so far it's a dream. The mechanics at the shop agree with the Clyde forum here, that the bike should be fine with normal street riding, but that if I jump a lot of curbs and hit potholes at full speed, the wheels will eventually have problems.

    So I think you'll be fine. Have a look at their warranty, which I'm assuming is life time, ride the bike, and see if it speaks to you.
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    My very short experience 2 cents worth......

    I am a Noob but I thought I would give you my 2 cents.

    I just bought the 2009 Kestrel Talon Road a few weeks ago. I have only logged about 40 miles on it so far but everything has been great. I currently top out at 255lbs and i have not had any issues with the bike itself. I have been tweaking things like Saddle (Fore/Aft), post height, and cleat position to "fine tune" my ride. I don't if my comfort on the Talon is just starting to come around because of my adjustments or the fact that my A** is starting to get used to a road bike. I now really have no excuse to get out and hammer away.......

    Not being able to speak to the longevity, I will say this.......If you can find a new 2009 Talon for sub $2000, i would jump on it. Mine has a full Ultegra Group and is smooth as silk when shifting and braking. That group would cost you over $1 K by itself. I was lucky enough to get great advice from my LBS and picked it up for $1800 out the door. My guy even swapped out the big Shimano double for a Sram compact for nothing. I added a Sigma 1909 and haven't looked back........
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    I spoke to the kestral rep...he is on BF in the Tri forum from time to time and I asked him about the talon. He said at my weight (300) that there shouldn't be any problems because the Talon is tested up to 400 lbs...so go for it...
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