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Old 11-09-10, 07:15 AM   #1
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Source for DT Alpine III spokes

I'm looking to build a strong pair of wheels, and would like to use DT Alpine III spokes.

Yes, it is not essential to a strong wheel, but it does help.

BUT, where can you find the silver version? Amazon/Niagara has black ones, and only in boxes of 72. My bike is C&V steel, so I don't really want black spokes. Plus, I need one wheel's worth (32) at 297mm for the front, and the rear is half at 295mm and half at 296mm.

Anyone know a reasonable source for these? (SJS in the UK, but they don't have two of the sizes I need.)

Please?

Thanks.
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Old 11-09-10, 08:28 AM   #2
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I'm looking to build a strong pair of wheels, and would like to use DT Alpine III spokes.

Yes, it is not essential to a strong wheel, but it does help.

BUT, where can you find the silver version? Amazon/Niagara has black ones, and only in boxes of 72. My bike is C&V steel, so I don't really want black spokes. Plus, I need one wheel's worth (32) at 297mm for the front, and the rear is half at 295mm and half at 296mm.

Anyone know a reasonable source for these? (SJS in the UK, but they don't have two of the sizes I need.)

Please?

Thanks.
The silver Alpines don't make it across the pond very often. I've found the silver ones from SJS...which has one of the best prices and is about the only place that sells them in less than box quantities, by the way...but that won't help you. Google 'silver alpine III spoke'. There's a couple of places that pop up in England that carries silver Alpines.
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SJS....got mine in packages of six, if I remember correctly (hmmm maybe it was 8)
Anyhoo I may have to do another order if I miscalculated.
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I'm a fan of SJS, too. Great prices on Brooks saddles, BTW.

BUT, they don't have size 295 or 297, and I'm not set up to grind down the 298's. I will talk to my wheel-builder to see if he's willing, but I'll not hold my breath.

Weird. Who wants black spokes? Ugh. (Yeah, yeah. Black rims, black hubs, very Goth...)
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I'm a fan of SJS, too. Great prices on Brooks saddles, BTW.

BUT, they don't have size 295 or 297, and I'm not set up to grind down the 298's. I will talk to my wheel-builder to see if he's willing, but I'll not hold my breath.

Weird. Who wants black spokes? Ugh. (Yeah, yeah. Black rims, black hubs, very Goth...)
They do list 296. Are you looking at drive side vs non-drive side for dishing? I'd split the difference and use the 296. You just have to tighten up the drive side a little more. Since I can usually only get Alpines by the box, I don't build with different sized spokes...too expensive! But using the same size spoke doesn't hurt anything, it just makes wheel building a tad more difficult.

For the front, you could use standard double butted spokes. The front wheel is symetrical and stronger so you seldom break front spokes. In 35 years of bicycle riding, I've only ever broken one front spoke. You can source silver double butted spokes all over the place...perhaps even at a local shop.
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Yes, one can jerry-rig. The sizes were what Phil Wood technical support said I should use for their hubs and my rims.

Here's a response from DT Swiss regarding my hunt for silver DT Alpine III spokes:

Hello O___,

Thanks for the email.

Unfortunately we only sell black alpine III spokes in North America.
Why? We only sold a handful of boxes in silver so we only have black now which sells rather well for us.

Sorry.


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DT Swiss Inc.
2493 Industrial Blvd
Grand Junction, CO 81505
(970) 242-9232 ex 15
(970) 244-8918 (fax)
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I always get the hubs and rims in, measure them (especially the rims), then order the spokes. I find the rims are often 1-3 mm different than the published data. (Hubs are usually spot on).

I use the online spoke calculator at http://lenni.info/edd/

As for silver - black usually costs more. I'm too cheep. I just buy silver. Odd they don't have it here.

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Are you sure you want Alpine III's??? What type of hubs are you going to use.
They require 2.5mm spoke holes. I am pretty sure anything that came on a C@V steel is probably 2.0mm.

I just used some alpine III's on a XTR 15mm QR hub I built for a 15mm QR fox shock I bought.
For a road bike I think they would be overkill, I used them because I am HEAVY.

I think a way better value would be the 2.0mm silver DT's (like champions), they should be more than strong enough, and probably cheaper.
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I was going to post this exact same question (except I need 295)
I find myself in the same boat. Not quite half a day searching keep finding black black black. . . Silver discontinued?
only need 32 for now, anyway. . .

Good old Champion it is. . . meh.
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Universal Cycles sells individual spokes. They carry DT Swiss Alpine 3, but as DT have already indicated: only in black. Personally, I'd just use DT Swiss Competition double-butted spokes. Or if you're into spending money, go for Sapim's CX-Ray. Both are plenty strong...
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