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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 01-11-11, 04:57 AM   #1
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wheels wheels wheels

OK we read this thread because we are big. In my 20 years of riding I have never been under 230lbs. Post what wheels you are riding. I have several sets of wheels. Post what are your favorite type of wheels. Mine are 36 spoke handbuilt, what I use are Mavic Open Sports with double butted spokes. I have had good luck with these. I ride them on rough roads, gravel and they keep going. The good thing about 36 spoke wheels are that if one breaks you can tweak it and still ride.
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Mavic Open Pro/32 spoke

I get them handbuilt from Colorado Cyclist, and have gotten about 8k miles out of the rear wheel before getting the hub rebuilt onto a new rim. Front wheel is still going strong with ~15k miles. I weigh closer to 300 then 200, and ride rough Texas country roads.

I always tell people that the key is getting handbuilt wheels from a good builder, more then what rim you use.
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Old 01-11-11, 07:32 AM   #3
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Mavic Open Pro/32 spoke
These. I just got them built up at my LBS with DuraAce hubs and double-butted spokes. I've only put about 23 miles on them so far, but they feel strong. Prior to that, I was riding Mavic Aksium Race wheels that came stock on the bike. I never had a bit of trouble with them, but I've started riding mountain passes, and I lacked confidence in those wheels on high-speed descents. I'm 320 lbs, headed down.
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Open Pros 32 hole

Mavic Ksyrium Elite [not many spokes]

Ambrosio Nemesis 32 hole

Mavic Carbons [even less spokes]

Velocity Deep V 32 hole [cyclocross wheels]

227# I ride 'light'.
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Sun CR18 rims on SON28(f) and Ultegra(r), 32h, 3x, DT Champion 2.0 spokes.

Wolber T410 Alpine rims on 105sc(f) and IRO high flange fix/fix(r), 32h, 3x, DT Champion 2.0 spokes.

IRO Cold Fusion rims on IRO high flange hubs (fix/fix rear), 32h, 3x, IRO house brand spokes (not sure if they build with DT or Wheelsmith).

In the past I've used Alex DA16 rims on Deore hubs, 32h, 3x, DT Champion 1.8 spokes. DT Swiss RR1.1 rims on the same setup, and DT Swiss RR1.1 on Deore rear with SON28 front. The only ones I didn't build are the Alex DA16 (stock on bike) and the IRO Cold Fusions (currently on order.)
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I may be the exception to the rule around here. Not only do I ride OEM wheels, I can't even tell you what they are, that's how little of my attention they draw to themselves. All I can say for sure is that the road bike (Trek 1500) is 20+ years old, so it has 20+ year-old wheels, and that they have a deep V section rims and 36 spokes (which may be why they're eminently ignorable). I can't even recall right now if the hubs are Specialized or Shimano.

The only custom wheels I ever owned was about 25 years ago when I had issues with the OEM tubular wheels on my Gitane. A friend who's an expert wrench built me a set of wheels with 36-hole Mavic rims and Campy Record hubs that worked great right up to the time I sold the bike, about 3 years ago. I couldn't even tell you the model of the rim - it was just Mavic's standard narrow, high pressure clincher type of rim.

I admit though that I've been concerned about the wheels I get on any new bike. Sure my weight's down a lot from the old days, but I'm still over 200 pounds (for now), and spoke count seems to get smaller all the time.
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Still riding the stock front wheel on my bike for over a year now:
Alex rim and hub, 28 spoke. In over a year, I had it trued once.

The rear wheel was rebuilt by Peter White using the stock hub:
Alex hub with Velocity Deep V rim, 32 spoke. I've been using it
a few months now, probably over 1,000 miles. Still true so far.

I'm 200 lbs. and ride in the pothole riddled streets of New York city.
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My rear wheel is a 36 hole Velocity Deep V rims hand laced to an Ultegra hub, locally built. My front wheel is the same rim on a Velocity hub, factory built. Right now I weigh 230, but I've been on these wheels since 285.
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wvridgerider, Two of my favorite rims aren't made anymore, the Mavic CXP10 (three sets) and CXP12. Both 32H 10s were built with 14g DT spokes on a 600/Ultegra hub, the 12s differed with 14/15 butted DT spokes. I also have a set of 28H Open Pro CDs built with 14/15 butted DT spokes on DA hubs that so far have been attention free with about 500 miles on them (I'm maintaining sub 200 lb.).

The first CXP10 wheelset was 36H/14g/RSX and came with a bike. They were over tensioned, I fixed that and now at 16 years old and unknown, but fairly high mileage, only recently replaced some spokes after my daughter smashed into a curb at speed (they were transferred to her CX bike). The rims weren't damaged and trued up easily during the rebuild. The spokes that failed were opposite the hit and actually broke the nipples.

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It depends on the use.

For touring, I have a set of 36 hole Phil Wood hubs laced with DT Alpines to a Mavic touring rim on the front and a Ritchey OCR touring rim on the back. For commuting I have several.

For my winter commuting mountain bike, I have DT Alpines laced to a 32 hole Shimano XTR hub (nondisc) and a Mavic XC-517 rim on the rear and a Specialized Stout hub and Mavic XC-517 on the front. The last rear wheel I had like this lasted me over 10 years and only died because the guy I loaned it to was ham-handed while shifting. For my fair(er) weather commuter, I have another set of Phils laced with DT Alpines to a set of Salsa Delgados. For my fair weather commuting/cruiser bike, I have a set of White Industries hubs laced...with DT Alpines on the rear, of course...to a set of blue Velocity Aeroheats

For one of my mountain bikes I have a set of 32 hole nondisc XTR laced with DT Alpines (seeing a trend here?) Mavic XC-717s.

I've built all of these.
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16 spoke OCLV Carbon rimmed Aeolus Aeros. Initially had small problems with them going slightly out of line, but once we realised that is was the Aluminium nipples that weren't holding their weight (or rather, my weight!), and replaced them with steel nipples, they are all good. Over 3,000km so far and going very well!

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I'm running the stock Bontrager Race wheels that came on my Trek 2.3 road bike. No problems through 1500 miles. I'm 230 ish.
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Road Bike: Easton EA90SL (24/28 spoke) or a hand-built set (Kinlin XR-270 24-spoke front w/White H2 hub, Kinlin XR-300 28-spoke rear w/PowerTap hub). Also have a set of Velocity M28 Aero2 wheels (16/20 spoke) that aren't getting a whole lot of use these days

Touring: 32-hole Velocity Synergy OC rims, Shimano XTR hubs, DT Swiss Competition spokes, and brass nipples

Commuter: Mavic X223 rims, Shimano Deore XT hubs, 32 or 36 spokes/wheel

Mountain: DT Swiss XR 4.2D rims (28-hole front, 32-hole rear), Specialized Hi Lo Disc front hub, DT Swiss rear hub, DT Swiss Super Comp spokes

Hard for me to pick a favorite. The PowerTap wheels probably get the most use, followed by the Velocity touring wheels...
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230-250 lb rider. 32 spoke Velocity Deep V's. Built them myself, first rear wheel lasted 20,000+ miles. Still true, retired due to a worn thin brake surface. Only one minor truing at 13,000 miles. Nuff said!

My most recent build, also on my tandem.


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2230...lb rider.
Any wheel that can handle 2230lbs is an awesome wheel in my book!

Time to lay off those honey buns there Mr. Beanz.
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I'm 220-245 depending on donut consumption and have several sets of wheels as well. I ride between 6000 and 10,000 miles/year
On my single:
I usually use my Topolino AX 3.0s, 24 spoke (2005)
Zipp 404s, 28 spoke. I use for races etc.(2006)
Mavic Open Pro Ceramic, 32 spoke, I use for brevets (2001) built by Peter White
Shimano DA, 16 spoke, I don't use these too much any more. I've had them since 1999 and they have a boatload of miles on them.
HED 3, 3 spoke, (1998) these are really heavy, really stiff, but also really fast. I only use them for occasional races.

On my Tandem:
Zipp 404s (32 spoke) 2009 custom made, no you can't buy them.

As far as favorites go, for racing I'm pick the Zipp 404 any day of the week. The Topolino's are great every day wheels.

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Any wheel that can handle 2230lbs is an awesome wheel in my book!

Time to lay off those honey buns there Mr. Beanz.
Wow, and I already edited the post once. Told you my typing is bad and at 2230 lbs, my gut hides the keys and part of the screen.
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Kinda looks like handbuilt wheels are ahead. Latest two wheels for me, campy mirage hub-open sport rim with double butted spokes 36 hole. I got a set of Cosmos wheels for free and the rear broke after not many miles so I will have it laced up and use it for the short rides.
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36-spoke Arayas. Possibly the strongest vintage rim outside of a tandem. They've taken a major beating on the dirt roads I ride on and the only time I've had to true it since I bought it was after hitting a fist-sized rock full-speed.
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Dont ride race bikes much anymore, 28 spoke rear wheel a 20 spoke front, But thats on my
349 wheel Brompton, 16 - 1 3/8, 80 psi.

32 spoke , Rohloff, Schmidt, 26" wheels .. hand built both myself.. new front hub, for lights,
and shipped the rear out to have leaking seals replaced.

winter bike 36 spoke, SA drum brakes, snow cat rims , snow flurries today, may thaw by tomorrow..
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Clearly the opinion that larger [200-250?] riders must ride/race some 36-40 spoke stagecoach wheel is outdated.

Those riding more 'performance' oriented wheels, what tires are you running?

I generally run Michelin PRO 2-3 for clinchers and for tubulars, Challange PR or Vittoria CG Pave. 23's up front and 24-25's on the back as the pavement I ride on $ucks.
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Clearly the opinion that larger [200-250?] riders must ride/race some 36-40 spoke stagecoach wheel is outdated.

Those riding more 'performance' oriented wheels, what tires are you running?

I generally run Michelin PRO 2-3 for clinchers and for tubulars, Challange PR or Vittoria CG Pave. 23's up front and 24-25's on the back as the pavement I ride on $ucks.
What I have determined is that serviceable wheels come down to spoke tension. If you take a 100lb rider and put them on a 36 spoke wheel, the serviceable spoke tension range is nearly infinite, on the side of low tension, the high side is fixed. As you increase the rider weight and/or reduce the number of spokes, the service range on low side of optimum narrows, this means the person tensioning that wheel needs to be more and more experienced. This is why one rider can be on a 20/24 (front/rear) wheel set and ride it until the rims wear out, and another rider has a set of 32 spoke wheels and can't go more then 20km without breaking one, even though the guy on the 20/24 wheels is 10kg heavier.
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I have a pair of :
Mavic Ksyrium Elite
DT swiss 370 hubs w Mavic CXP33
Ultegra hubs w. Rigida Chrina
RX100 hub w. Rigida DP18

The last 3 wheels are all build with 36 DT Swiss Champion spokes and brass niples.
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Mavic Open Pro's 32 hole with Ultegra Hubs from bicyclewheelwarehouse.com
http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...00/prod_4.html

DT Swiss RR465's 32 hole with a wired power tap from competitivecyclist.com
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/pr...905.380.0.html

Both sets are bombproof. I hover between 200 and 210.
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Mavic Open Pro's 32 hole with Ultegra Hubs from bicyclewheelwarehouse.com
http://www.bicyclewheelwarehouse.com...00/prod_4.html

DT Swiss RR465's 32 hole with a wired power tap from competitivecyclist.com
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/pr...905.380.0.html

Both sets are bombproof. I hover between 200 and 210.
Clearly someone doesn't agree with you.

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So, when you call and tell me you weigh as much as the typical NFL running back and you're just tickled pink with your Campy Record 10 speed equipped bike but you want a set of wheels that are light weight and "bomb proof" (I love that one!) don't be surprised when I suggest you go on a diet and call me back in a few years. I'm not writing this because I don't want your business, it's because I hate feeding on misconceptions spread by the marketing departments of various cycling companies and the moronic magazine scribes.....
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