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    Thanks guys (and gals?). Yeah, I thought the Garmin data would be a great idea so people could get an approximate idea of where and why my effort was higher or lower in the video. Too bad Garmin Connect doesn't save grade data too. That would rock!

    I was too busy looking at the grade reading while riding to notice my HR skyrocketing. No wonder I almost blew up

    I think the new username fits my preferred riding much better. When I joined BF I was in the 4th year of recumbent riding and I thought I would never ride a diamond frame bike again (stupid me!), so I created "bentrike" as shorthand for "recumbent trike". Of course, all those years of slow flat rides with no climbing really caused the weight to pile on. I gained almost 100 pounds between 1994-2010. Last year I rediscovered climbing and I've had a blast ever since!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    Thanks guys (and gals?). Yeah, I thought the Garmin data would be a great idea so people could get an approximate idea of where and why my effort was higher or lower in the video. Too bad Garmin Connect doesn't save grade data too. That would rock!

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    I copied your tcx data into my ridewithgps.com username. Here it is. The grades may have inaccurate spots, but overall it should be close. (With a Garmin 500, you don't need to Enable Elevation Corrections, since the built in barometer is more accurate than a GPS signal). The Calories and Watts are never accurate.

    You can select sections of the elevation graph to view statistics for just that section. The big climb was over 1000 feet in 3.5 miles, 7.2% average grade--a tough climb. And see the Metrics tab on the right, especially: click the Time Spent at each Speed charts.

    So, set up your own ridewithgps free account, and upload more rides!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm -rf View Post
    I copied your tcx data into my ridewithgps.com username. Here it is. The grades may have inaccurate spots, but overall it should be close. (With a Garmin 500, you don't need to Enable Elevation Corrections, since the built in barometer is more accurate than a GPS signal). The Calories and Watts are never accurate.

    You can select sections of the elevation graph to view statistics for just that section. The big climb was over 1000 feet in 3.5 miles, 7.2% average grade--a tough climb. And see the Metrics tab on the right, especially: click the Time Spent at each Speed charts.

    So, set up your own ridewithgps free account, and upload more rides!
    Wow, that is cool! Thank you . I'll have to do that for the next sufferfest video I plan on making when I drop at least another 30 pounds. It will be a climb I've never done before with grades up to 20%, and rated the toughest climb in the county.

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    That is very inspiring because I hate climbing but it only makes you stronger and when you conquer a climb the feeling is amazing!

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    So, I was sitting in the living room with the laptop watching (listening to) your video. My wife called from the kitchen, "are you watching porn" My response was, "sorta"

    I too LOVE hills . I feel sorry for the guy who posted above that he felt blessed to live in a flat area and not have to deal with hills.

    Great video. Thank you

    btw.....Beanz knows climbing.
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    Believe it or not, I LOVE climbing!
    There's probably a 12-step program to help with that!


    I rode in and out of New Orleans in November it was the nicest ride of my life. I envy you.
    New Orleans is a great town from October through April. Our summer days are miserable if you have to be outdoors. 95 degrees and 90% humidity... plus mosquitoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jboyd View Post
    So, I was sitting in the living room with the laptop watching (listening to) your video. My wife called from the kitchen, "are you watching porn" My response was, "sorta"

    I too LOVE hills . I feel sorry for the guy who posted above that he felt blessed to live in a flat area and not have to deal with hills.

    Great video. Thank you

    btw.....Beanz knows climbing.
    I love it! My friend's wife laughed her ass off when she heard one of my climbing videos from last year. I laugh at it too. It's funnier than hell to edit my video after a ride when I'm still under the influence of endorphins

    Yeah. Mr. Beanz has been great to talk to lately. Too bad he isn't in NorCal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm -rf View Post
    (With a Garmin 500, you don't need to Enable Elevation Corrections, since the built in barometer is more accurate than a GPS signal).
    Thanks for letting me know about that. I just now remembered to go back in and disable it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    Yeah. Mr. Beanz has been great to talk to lately. Too bad he isn't in NorCal!
    I had a female ride partner back in 05'ish after Gina donated a kidney and couldn't ride vry hard that year. Man, this gal was aggressive and all out hardcore in her efforts. It actually did me some good cause I couldn't let this gal run me down. I hate getting chicked but it happens, some tough gals out there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I had a female ride partner back in 05'ish after Gina donated a kidney and couldn't ride vry hard that year. Man, this gal was aggressive and all out hardcore in her efforts. It actually did me some good cause I couldn't let this gal run me down. I hate getting chicked but it happens, some tough gals out there!
    Back in '91-'93 when I was a much better climber at about 120 lbs, I used to enjoy making men suffer on hills hehe! They could always keep up with me on flat ground, but if there were any hills they dropped way back. Great fun

    I hope to be able to do that again by summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    Back in '91-'93 when I was a much better climber at about 120 lbs, I used to enjoy making men suffer on hills hehe! They could always keep up with me on flat ground, but if there were any hills they dropped way back. Great fun

    I hope to be able to do that again by summer
    I can imagine the picture in my head. Even men on the bike trail get very uspet when Gina rolls by. She dropped a guy on on of the very very small inclines (20 yards) and he got very very upset. I heard every F word in the book come out of his mouth......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I can imagine the picture in my head. Even men on the bike trail get very uspet when Gina rolls by. She dropped a guy on on of the very very small inclines (20 yards) and he got very very upset. I heard every F word in the book come out of his mouth......
    Sheesh! I never had any negative reactions around here, and I ride the bike trail regularly. In fact, one day I took my low-end Trek 7000 WSD hybrid out there and noticed a guy just hanging back about 50 feet. He would get closer and I would speed up a little until he dropped back (this was on flat ground), then I would slow down a tad. This went on for 10 miles until I stopped on the bridge. He caught up and told me "you're hard to keep up with". I didn't know what else to say so I just said "Thank you". It made me feel good though

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    Nice climb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by funrover View Post
    Nice climb!
    Thanks As of this week I'm down another 2 pounds to 162. When the weather cooperates like it has for the past month I lose 2 pounds a week from these climbing rides in addition to my normal everyday riding. No climbing = minimal or no weight loss for me.

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    My co-workers thought I was watching a naughty movie with all that breathing going on. Very nice video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    Thanks As of this week I'm down another 2 pounds to 162. When the weather cooperates like it has for the past month I lose 2 pounds a week from these climbing rides in addition to my normal everyday riding. No climbing = minimal or no weight loss for me.


    It's funny! Whenever there is a thread here on the subject of "I'm counting calories but not losing weight"................. " how can I lose weight".........."I ride 200 falt miles but can't lose weight" type threads. My response is usualy "go climb your butt off". It works and you don't need to count calories etc but people don't want to hear it.

    The thing about calories is , when you're climbing and suffering cause you ate an extra knockwurst the night before, you swear to yourself that you'll never eat an extra one again. You may never ever eat another knockwurst at all.

    I think you know what I mean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy88s View Post
    My co-workers thought I was watching a naughty movie with all that breathing going on. Very nice video!
    You should hear me and my friends joking around about that whenever we watch one of my videos. I thought that this one showcased my "freight training uphill" very well

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    It's funny! Whenever there is a thread here on the subject of "I'm counting calories but not losing weight"................. " how can I lose weight".........."I ride 200 falt miles but can't lose weight" type threads. My response is usualy "go climb your butt off". It works and you don't need to count calories etc but people don't want to hear it.

    The thing about calories is , when you're climbing and suffering cause you ate an extra knockwurst the night before, you swear to yourself that you'll never eat an extra one again. You may never ever eat another knockwurst at all.

    I think you know what I mean!
    Yup And, today we are having hellacious north winds again, so I guess all my flatland riding today will be similar to climbing, though not as intense as the climbing I did in the video.

    Definitely not as fun as climbing, but better than the average boring flat ride around here.

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    freighttraininguphill,
    This is one of my favorite videos. I love to hear the breathing, road noises, nature sounds, gearchanging, etc. of actual riding on videos as most edited in music just don't do it for me. You are doing great. The fact that you don't quit when you get breathless is awesome. What bike are you ridin? What cadence? I guess where I'm headin is what gear-inch (number of teeth in the rear large sprocket & number of teeth in the small front chainring) are you climbing in? Most videos are done buy folks who have mastered climbing and they are inspirational as well but yours has a more human element to it in that it is real imho. Can't wait to see and hear more videos from you. You inspire me and make me want to go ride.
    Now I'm going to stalk your other post.
    Keep up the good work.
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    PS: I like your user ID and think it is very appropriate. Reminds me of the little train that could. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    And, today we are having hellacious north winds again, so I guess all my flatland riding today will be similar to climbing, though not as intense as the climbing I did in the video..

    Heck, we don't let the winds stop us from climbing. 40 seconds ito the video, I stopped to record the wind, blowing pretty good. There are times that I/we head up the mtn with 40mph winds blowing. "Most" of the time we end up shielded from the wind. Not sure if your hills/mtns are the same but give it a try, might be surprised.

    BUT once, one of the rides with us think she took his hand off to zip up his vest (he doesn't really remember) hen was blown over, hit the pavement and knocked out cold. Ended up in the hospital. It was like a feak accident. I guess it pays to be a clyde sometimes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony N. View Post
    freighttraininguphill,
    This is one of my favorite videos. I love to hear the breathing, road noises, nature sounds, gearchanging, etc. of actual riding on videos as most edited in music just don't do it for me. You are doing great. The fact that you don't quit when you get breathless is awesome. What bike are you ridin? What cadence? I guess where I'm headin is what gear-inch (number of teeth in the rear large sprocket & number of teeth in the small front chainring) are you climbing in? Most videos are done buy folks who have mastered climbing and they are inspirational as well but yours has a more human element to it in that it is real imho. Can't wait to see and hear more videos from you. You inspire me and make me want to go ride.
    Now I'm going to stalk your other post.
    Keep up the good work.
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    PS: I like your user ID and think it is very appropriate. Reminds me of the little train that could. :-)
    Thank you. You sound like me I take it you saw this thread I created, which ultimately inspired me to make this video.

    I also love to hear the breathing, gear changes, nature sounds, etc. It gives me the full experience of the ride, and it lets me know when the rider was working hard.

    I'm riding a 2011 Specialized Dolce Triple. I changed the stock 13-26 cassette to an 11-34 Shimano MegaRange mtb cassette. I also replaced the stock 30t front granny ring with a 24t and replaced the stock derailleur with a Shimano Deore long-cage mtb derailleur. According to Sheldon Brown's gear calculator that is 18.6 gear inches in the lowest gear. This gives me the lowest gearing possible on a road bike, and allows me to climb the steepest grades in the saddle. Since I'm still 40 lbs overweight, riding out of the saddle takes excessive energy and causes me to go into oxygen debt. This ultra-low gearing also allows me to spin on most steep hills, therefore saving my knees. Gotta keep them healthy if I wanna keep climbing

    You may have noticed that I slowed down considerably before my first downshift in the video. That's because I have to have almost no pressure on the pedals when shifting from the middle ring to the small ring, otherwise I will drop my chain. The bike came with a chain catcher, and when I put the low gears on I made sure the chain catcher was adjusted properly, but I still drop my chain if I'm not careful. I guess that could be because my middle ring is a 42t, and the jump from 42 to 24 is pretty big.

    My user ID is actually an inside joke between me and a few friends. Years ago when I was around 120 lbs and a better climber, my friends came up with the phrase "freight training" to refer to heavy breathing. It has stuck ever since But I like the "little engine that could" reference too.

    You may see me say "Strong Climber" periodically when referring to other riders, with both words intentionally capitalized. That's another inside joke

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Heck, we don't let the winds stop us from climbing. 40 seconds ito the video, I stopped to record the wind, blowing pretty good. There are times that I/we head up the mtn with 40mph winds blowing. "Most" of the time we end up shielded from the wind. Not sure if your hills/mtns are the same but give it a try, might be surprised.

    BUT once, one of the rides with us think she took his hand off to zip up his vest (he doesn't really remember) hen was blown over, hit the pavement and knocked out cold. Ended up in the hospital. It was like a feak accident. I guess it pays to be a clyde sometimes.
    Oh I don't let wind stop me from climbing either. I just wasn't planning on climbing on that particular day. Gotta have some flat rides

    Sorry to hear about your riding partner. Hope he recovered quickly.

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    freighttraininguphill,
    Just finished reading all 105 of your post. Did not know about the music/no music debate. Just know what I like and I like the way you do your videos. I really liked the street sounds in your tall bike videos. It let me know what you were hearing, and seeing, and that is about like being there. Thanks. Also as for as the heavy breathing, everyone that has climbed the way you were would have breathed the same as you and I at some point no matter who they are. Even Lance after his cancer treatments rode up a hill about half a mile and had to stop and walk. True story. But just like Lance, you don't just stop, you keep on going and that impresses me to death. Your breathing tells the story of your struggle as it is happening. It inspires me.
    I'm traing for The Assault on Mount Mitchell. It is 103 miles with 11,000 ft of climbing most of which is in the last 25 miles (http://www.theassaults.com/). My training is not where I want it to be and I had about decided to pass but you inspire me to keep on pushing and I will. Also true story. Thanks again.
    My guess is I'm not the only one that wants to come to northern Calif. to make that climb with you.
    Keep ridin, postin, and PLEASE keep videoin your way. I can hardly wait for the next vid. Only wish I could see more now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony N. View Post
    freighttraininguphill,
    Just finished reading all 105 of your post. Did not know about the music/no music debate. Just know what I like and I like the way you do your videos. I really liked the street sounds in your tall bike videos. It let me know what you were hearing, and seeing, and that is about like being there. Thanks. Also as for as the heavy breathing, everyone that has climbed the way you were would have breathed the same as you and I at some point no matter who they are. Even Lance after his cancer treatments rode up a hill about half a mile and had to stop and walk. True story. But just like Lance, you don't just stop, you keep on going and that impresses me to death. Your breathing tells the story of your struggle as it is happening. It inspires me.
    I'm traing for The Assault on Mount Mitchell. It is 103 miles with 11,000 ft of climbing most of which is in the last 25 miles (http://www.theassaults.com/). My training is not where I want it to be and I had about decided to pass but you inspire me to keep on pushing and I will. Also true story. Thanks again.
    My guess is I'm not the only one that wants to come to northern Calif. to make that climb with you.
    Keep ridin, postin, and PLEASE keep videoin your way. I can hardly wait for the next vid. Only wish I could see more now.
    Tony
    Thank you so much What you just said is what I tried to explain to people in the music/no music debate thread. I even quoted Jonathan Vaughters, who also tells people not to be self-conscious about suffering and heavy breathing. I never would have thought that cyclists would worry about showing their effort when they are not in a race. Some people believe that those fancy telemetry displays they put on their videos are enough to show you their effort (and of course these same people put music over their ride audio). To me it's neat, but it can be distracting, and it's just not the same as hearing the sounds of effort.

    To those in that music/no music thread who said you have to have music to cover breathing sounds because it "sounds like porn", I saw phooey! I'm proud of my heavy breathing. It shows I busted my ass to climb the hill/mountain. Maybe I should post tomorrow's climbs. They're gonna be good ones

    Yeah, I like how the tall bike video came out too. By hearing the wind you hear that I had to haul ass on my recumbent tadpole trike to catch up. I muted the audio of me talking to the riders because I hate the sound of my voice. It's too damn deep. I get tired of being called "sir" on the phone all the time, so I'm not about to go through the hassle of explaining to YouTubers that yes, I am a female.

    I wish I could show you, Mr. Beanz, and others on here this climb, and some others that are even steeper. I think they would like what we have up here in NorCal.

    I wish you the best of luck on your upcoming ride. Keep us posted too, and maybe some video

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    Quote: Maybe I should post tomorrow's climbs. They're gonna be good ones

    Do, oh please do. Don't make me beg. Do wish I could have heard the interview with the riders. No way could frieghttraininguphill be self concious about the sound of her on voice. Got to see more of freighttrain.
    I would love to video but not there yet. Looking into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    I wish I could show you, Mr. Beanz, and others on here this climb, and some others that are even steeper. I think they would like what we have up here in NorCal.

    I live about 5 miles from a 25 mile climb with 7,500 ft of gain, how much more do I need?

    Or the short route, 5000 ft in 11 miles.
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    I have to thank Freight and Beanz for making me suffer today I finally got off my easy routes for the first time in a while and did a little heavy breathing of my own.

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