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    A special thanks...

    ...to iforgotmename and Mr. Beanz, for showing your human side in your video responses to my original sufferfest vid last month. Why am I bringing this up now? Read on.

    I started a thread in the Road Cycling forum titled "Videos of you suffering on a bike". Since the Road Bike Racing subforum has the "Pictures of you suffering in a race" thread, I figured I'd start a similar one using videos instead, and in Road Cycling instead of Road Bike Racing since I don't race and many others don't either. Well it was a failure:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ring-on-a-bike

    I really don't think people understood what I was looking for in a video. That's a sharp contrast to the wonderful responses I got on this board when I posted my first sufferfest video last month.

    So Mr. Beanz and iforgotmename, thank you for having the balls to show your human side to the world, instead of making your climbing videos look like a TV show that caters to the lowest common denominator. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates it

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    ...to iforgotmename and Mr. Beanz, for showing your human side in your video responses to my original sufferfest vid last month. Why am I bringing this up now? Read on.

    So Mr. Beanz and iforgotmename, thank you for having the balls to show your human side to the world,
    Well FTU, as I mentioned before, there are some places that should be left far behind.


    Sorry, I won't attempt to view the thread, some things just aren't worth the time or thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Well FTU, as I mentioned before, there are some places that should be left far behind.


    Sorry, I won't attempt to view the thread, some things just aren't worth the time or thought.
    Maybe you're right, but I'm still frustrated with the attitude so many people have that it's not "cool" to show effort. My thread over there was not confrontational, and I didn't start the thread to start a fight. I was hoping some other people there would have the courage to post a sufferfest vid, but they didn't. Oh well.

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    We are all humans and need to have each others back. But if I "F" with Beanz he would drop me like a bad habit on a climb...seriously he would.
    Honestly Freight, some people just have to be jerks...don't take it personally. I'm sure that many people don't like my style but I enjoy doing what I do.
    Keep on keeping on

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    Quote Originally Posted by iforgotmename View Post
    We are all humans and need to have each others back. But if I "F" with Beanz he would drop me like a bad habit on a climb...seriously he would.
    Honestly Freight, some people just have to be jerks...don't take it personally. I'm sure that many people don't like my style but I enjoy doing what I do.
    Keep on keeping on


    Thanks I'm just gonna keep being my usual silly self, and if they think I'm weird then honestly I don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    Maybe you're right, but I'm still frustrated with the attitude so many people have that it's not "cool" to show effort. My thread over there was not confrontational, and I didn't start the thread to start a fight. I was hoping some other people there would have the courage to post a sufferfest vid, but they didn't. Oh well.
    Yeah, but it's funny. If I go do a mountain climb, the riders say, "dude you're doing great!". That's after I've dropped them or they've dropped me. Things are different in reality and people treat people differently when you "ride", This is the net! fortunately I've had the pleasure of meeting some great riders Vireo (did Furnace Creek 508 on a fixie). JohnR has the tandem champ jersey on Mt Everest. I met the California State champ on a ride, he was a great guy. And many more that I can point out. NONE of these guys talk to you in person the way netsters do. All are very encouraging no matter what type of bike you ride. Those are the champs! You got to know who is who then the rest is all funzies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iforgotmename View Post
    We are all humans and need to have each others back. But if I "F" with Beanz he would drop me like a bad habit on a climb...seriously he would.:
    You know how many people have said that then dropped me like a hot potato!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Yeah, but it's funny. If I go do a mountain climb, the riders say, "dude you're doing great!". That's after I've dropped them or they've dropped me. Things are different in reality and people treat people differently when you "ride", This is the net! fortunately I've had the pleasure of meeting some great riders Vireo (did Furnace Creek 508 on a fixie). JohnR has the tandem champ jersey on Mt Everest. I met the California State champ on a ride, he was a great guy. And many more that I can point out. NONE of these guys talk to you in person the way netsters do. All are very encouraging no matter what type of bike you ride. Those are the champs! You got to know who is who then the rest is all funzies.
    That's what I figured. People act all big and bad on the net, but much more humble in person. With me, what you see in my posts is pretty much what you see in person. Unless you're one of my close friends. Then I'm even sillier I don't believe in acting two-faced. I'll be the first to admit that I suck on climbs right now. Those who act like they're Superman/woman on the net are just lame.

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    Don't forget some forums are rougher than others...it's all soft and fuzzy here. People here in C&A are very genuine imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iforgotmename View Post
    Don't forget some forums are rougher than others...it's all soft and fuzzy here. People here in C&A are very genuine imho.
    You're absolutely right As of today, I'm only 11 pounds away from no longer being considered an Athena, but when that day comes I really don't want to leave this forum. Honestly, I don't think I "fit in" on the Road Cycling forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    You're absolutely right As of today, I'm only 11 pounds away from no longer being considered an Athena, but when that day comes I really don't want to leave this forum. Honestly, I don't think I "fit in" on the Road Cycling forum.
    If you don't have a Fred helmet and wear all spandex you don't belong, lol.

    I think each of us has learned that lesson at least once when posting over there.

    BTW, nice video

    Edit: Just a thought, at the end of the video, if I were you I would have put the bike against a tree with the camera running and put your hands in the air and jump up and down like Rocky, lol. Give yourself a bit of praise after all that work
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdohertyjr View Post
    If you don't have a Fred helmet and wear all spandex you don't belong, lol.

    I think each of us has learned that lesson at least once when posting over there.

    BTW, nice video

    Edit: Just a thought, at the end of the video, if I were you I would have put the bike against a tree with the camera running and put your hands in the air and jump up and down like Rocky, lol. Give yourself a bit of praise after all that work
    LOL! Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video Yup, lots of work, but lots of fun too

    Actually, I do have one thread over there that turned out to be a success. It's the "Pictures that show the grade of the road" thread. I started it by posting screen captures from my ride videos of roads I've measured with my Garmin.

    Other than that, I feel like I have to watch everything I say over there to avoid snarky replies.

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    Hey freighttrain, I agree with everyone on this forum. Unless the mods do something, there is and always will be probs with RF. Don't go back is my advice to everyone who thinks some and certainly not all on the RF treat EACH OTHER. We are all in this together. One of my favorite sayins is "If there weren't trucks, there would be no truck drivers". Or is trains and no freighttraining? :-) Whatever, if some on RF must be so rude and insulting to new posters, then they will soon only have each other to shoot at. Just wish the trouble makers on RF were better shots. Remeber that not all RF's are that way but it only takes a few to make it uncomfortable for everyone. Only mods can make a difference and very quickly. that is why it is so very important aa job and why they make the big bucks. :-) Thiere have been so many post like yours, it just boggles my mind why no moderator has reacted.
    My favorite forums are C&A and Fifty Plus. Both are sincere and try to help everyone from the newby to the seasoned.
    Thanks for sharing your expierence on RF. Maybe some mod will see and take action. "Keep you feet on the pedals and your eyes on the road" AND CAMERA ROLLIN. Sorry for shoutin, I tend to make noise when excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iforgotmename View Post
    Don't forget some forums are rougher than others...it's all soft and fuzzy here.
    The recent p*ssing matches between Mr. Beanz and the Wogster, or my own with Sayre Kulp aside, of course. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    You're absolutely right As of today, I'm only 11 pounds away from no longer being considered an Athena, but when that day comes I really don't want to leave this forum. Honestly, I don't think I "fit in" on the Road Cycling forum.
    Even though I lost my Clyde status a few years back, I still continue to find the C&A the most interesting forum on BF. I adopted the "once a clyde (athena), always a clyde (athena)" motto. Plus I feel there are just more genuine conversations taking place here. We don't really give a crap about where to buy the lightest seatpost, stem, or waterbottle cage. My scale doesn't weigh my bike, it weighs me...

    Having fun, looking for spring,

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    I loved the video, it reminds me of myself climbing stairs after my recent bout of pneumonia. Great job and stay with us after you hit the magic number, we're more fun that that "other" forum.
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    In October of last year, I posted some newbie questions on 41 (Road bike forum), and received invaluable advice that lead me to my current road bike (Giant Defy 1), which I love. There is a wealth of knowledge there concerning road biking that I haven't found in any other forum, and some very kind individuals who are more than willing to bring others along in the sport they love so much. On the other hand, if you don't like being told to HTFU and STFU, or that "you are too fat for this sport", it probably isn't that place to hang out.

    This forum, as well as the 50+ forum (Yes, I am fat, over 50 and ride a road bike) are much more laid back, which is OK as well. I personally go to each of the forums for a specific reason, taking away with what serves me well and ignoring the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony N. View Post
    Remeber that not all RF's are that way but it only takes a few to make it uncomfortable for everyone. Only mods can make a difference and very quickly. that is why it is so very important aa job and why they make the big bucks. :-) Thiere have been so many post like yours, it just boggles my mind why no moderator has reacted.
    My favorite forums are C&A and Fifty Plus. Both are sincere and try to help everyone from the newby to the seasoned.
    Thanks for sharing your expierence on RF. Maybe some mod will see and take action. "Keep you feet on the pedals and your eyes on the road" AND CAMERA ROLLIN. Sorry for shoutin, I tend to make noise when excited.
    No apology needed My camera will be rolling again this weekend for the Second Saturday cruise. I hope to see some interesting bikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TrekDen View Post
    Even though I lost my Clyde status a few years back, I still continue to find the C&A the most interesting forum on BF. I adopted the "once a clyde (athena), always a clyde (athena)" motto. Plus I feel there are just more genuine conversations taking place here. We don't really give a crap about where to buy the lightest seatpost, stem, or waterbottle cage. My scale doesn't weigh my bike, it weighs me...

    Having fun, looking for spring,

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    You know what? I feel the same way My best friends have always been people who don't fit society's narrow-minded view of what is considered "beautiful" or "handsome". Some even have disabilities. They are the most down-to-earth, considerate, caring people I know.

    I'm no weight weenie either. I refuse to pay thousands of dollars for a carbon bike when it is the motor that matters the most I'm perfectly satisfied with my aluminum and steel bikes.

    Quote Originally Posted by thestoutdog View Post
    I loved the video, it reminds me of myself climbing stairs after my recent bout of pneumonia. Great job and stay with us after you hit the magic number, we're more fun that that "other" forum.
    Thank you I have no intention of leaving, believe me. I've had more fun here than anywhere else on BF, or the rest of the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by poperszky View Post
    In October of last year, I posted some newbie questions on 41 (Road bike forum), and received invaluable advice that lead me to my current road bike (Giant Defy 1), which I love. There is a wealth of knowledge there concerning road biking that I haven't found in any other forum, and some very kind individuals who are more than willing to bring others along in the sport they love so much. On the other hand, if you don't like being told to HTFU and STFU, or that "you are too fat for this sport", it probably isn't that place to hang out.

    This forum, as well as the 50+ forum (Yes, I am fat, over 50 and ride a road bike) are much more laid back, which is OK as well. I personally go to each of the forums for a specific reason, taking away with what serves me well and ignoring the rest.
    I have noticed that too, which is why I still read there and post occasionally. I keep hoping that by posting there I will bring the nicer posters out of the woodwork

    As far as being told I'm "too fat for this sport", I beat them to it. I admitted right off the bat that I have a fat ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    You know what? I feel the same way My best friends have always been people who don't fit society's narrow-minded view of what is considered "beautiful" or "handsome". Some even have disabilities. They are the most down-to-earth, considerate, caring people I know.
    Thank you.

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    I really appreciated the climb torture videos. I lets me know that I'm not the only one struggling and dying while doing an 'easy' sport like bike riding. It ALMOST makes me wish we had some hills here... (I did go over a bridge the other day, I bet it was at least a 10' elevation gain... that ride back down was wild! ).

    Seriously, thanks all of you (esp FTU) for posting the videos!

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    I'm sorry there have been less than pleasant experiences on other BF sub-forums.

    Thankfully, I found the C&A sub-forum after some experience with the Bike Mechanics sub-forum. I love researching/learning about wrenching, and I found "them" (the BF wrenches) a few years ago while researching something specific about modifying/building up an older mountain bike. They have always been very kind about my "newbieness" - and if they ever did insult me in any way... I was probably too naive to know. Seriously though, they have been very helpful to me. I also have dabbled in the Classic & Vintage... and have learned and shared a few things in the Commuting sub-forum as well.

    Hands down though.... C&A is the place to be

    In my experience, people in general seem to be getting more and more selfish... the world a bit more harsh, every day. Some evenings I just like to peruse the C&A threads... even if I have nothing to ask.... nothing to offer.... just to be reminded of the humanity in the words typed here.
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    How to put it gently... they are roadies; I came to expect rude and inconsiderate remarks on that forum. It might sound crude, but that's the way I found it. I cannot say that I expected it to be so when I first got into cycling, but soon I found out that (too) many of roadies are having a problem with their ego's. So I tend to stay away from them, because I'm in this for my enjoyment, and not to feed anyone else's ego-trippin'.

    Having said that, I know that feeling so well, that feeling of exhaustion while climbing, which you managed to capture in your video. That is the very thing we must endure to get better at climbing. I'm all out of shape and just restarting hill training for this year, you got me motivated! Thanks for sharing that with all of us, and keep on going strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by LACamper View Post
    I really appreciated the climb torture videos. I lets me know that I'm not the only one struggling and dying while doing an 'easy' sport like bike riding. It ALMOST makes me wish we had some hills here...

    Seriously, thanks all of you (esp FTU) for posting the videos!
    You're welcome That's what I try to capture in my videos-the effort of climbing. I guess the people on the road forum didn't "get it". Oh well. I'm glad you liked it. I'll make another one when I reach my weight loss goal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecovelo View Post
    I'm sorry there have been less than pleasant experiences on other BF sub-forums.

    Hands down though.... C&A is the place to be

    In my experience, people in general seem to be getting more and more selfish... the world a bit more harsh, every day. Some evenings I just like to peruse the C&A threads... even if I have nothing to ask.... nothing to offer.... just to be reminded of the humanity in the words typed here.
    You are SO right! I'm so thankful to have my close friends, great neighbors, and the posters here on C/A to socialize with. It helps me forget about the heartless types

    Quote Originally Posted by whitecat View Post
    How to put it gently... they are roadies; I came to expect rude and inconsiderate remarks on that forum. It might sound crude, but that's the way I found it. I cannot say that I expected it to be so when I first got into cycling, but soon I found out that (too) many of roadies are having a problem with their ego's. So I tend to stay away from them, because I'm in this for my enjoyment, and not to feed anyone else's ego-trippin'.
    Yup, that's why I don't wear spandex, jerseys, ride a fancy bike, or join club rides. I'm proud to ride solo, and (knock on wood) I don't have the problems with motorists that some club riders have reported in other forums. I especially despise "ass-vertising". If I'm going to have some company's logo plastered across my ass, they had better pay me for it!
    Besides, at my current slow speed, I would just look like a poser if I rode around with all that fancy stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by whitecat View Post
    Having said that, I know that feeling so well, that feeling of exhaustion while climbing, which you managed to capture in your video. That is the very thing we must endure to get better at climbing. I'm all out of shape and just restarting hill training for this year, you got me motivated! Thanks for sharing that with all of us, and keep on going strong
    Thank you I'm so glad you and others on this forum understand what I'm trying to show in my climb videos. Why can't the roadies on the other forum figure it out? I've been saying all along that there is nothing wrong with allowing people to hear your effort in a video, yet people act like it's just as embarassing as cutting a fart or belching. In fact, the more uptight people get, the more motivated I'll be to post another one of these videos when the weight's all gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    Yup, that's why I don't wear spandex, jerseys, ride a fancy bike, or join club rides. I'm proud to ride solo, and (knock on wood) I don't have the problems with motorists that some club riders have reported in other forums. I especially despise "ass-vertising". If I'm going to have some company's logo plastered across my ass, they had better pay me for it!
    Besides, at my current slow speed, I would just look like a poser if I rode around with all that fancy stuff.
    I tend to do that only for my comfort. I mean riding in spandex or similar stretch material, that wicks moisture away quickly. It makes my life a lot easier, especially in the summer, since I tend to sweat a lot. A lot. Did I say a lot? Only difference is that I mostly choose black or dark colors, I can't stand those screaming neon colors. I also tend to ride solo, since good company is hard to find, and if it is with someone, then it is a pretty rare event. I must be able to get along well in terms of speed and overall fitness with the person I'm riding with. The term "ass-vertising" got me cracked up, haha And I think speed is irrelevant as long as you're giving it your best effort.

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    Thank you I'm so glad you and others on this forum understand what I'm trying to show in my climb videos. Why can't the roadies on the other forum figure it out? I've been saying all along that there is nothing wrong with allowing people to hear your effort in a video, yet people act like it's just as embarassing as cutting a fart or belching. In fact, the more uptight people get, the more motivated I'll be to post another one of these videos when the weight's all gone
    They are preoccupied massaging their egos! They tend to believe they are "above" such things, like it's some weird code of conduct not to show any effort. I can't really grasp it either. Nor do I trouble myself too much with it anymore. See, there were always selfish and arrogant people on this earth as opposed to normal, kind and thoughtful. I tend to focus myself on the normal types. No use in wondering what is in the heads of all the nut jobs that are out there, is it? Seems like a waste of time to me.

    As far as farting and belching go, I can't say I tend to do that on purpose, but hey, if it happens, it happens. Hard riding is sometimes known to upset my stomach, and if it happens by accident, I guess it is normal. We are all made of flesh and are not machines. I remember what one acquaintance of mine told me, a few years back. He met a beautiful women, got to know her, they went out a few times, and eventually one night they got to the point of making out on the couch, when she accidentally let out a fart. He was disgusted and wouldn't hear a thing about it. So he left her. I was like wtf? There is a line between being normal and being uptight. He was way over that line in my opinion.

    Uptight people? Yes, we get more and more of those in every corner of our lives every day, but it doesn't mean that is normal, because it isn't. At least not for me.

    And I would be out and enjoying the ride if it wasn't for this cold that has me lately confined to the house

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