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    I had to go against my principles :p

    I decided to test just how waterproof my Kodak Playsport really is. Unfortunately, two things went wrong. First, rain kept plugging the mic holes and messing up the sound. Second, the camera suddenly shut off while recording, which corrupted the file. Battery was fine. Luckily it wasn't good footage that got ruined.

    I was only able to get about a minute of decent-sounding raw video, so I had to pull a Beanz and iforgotmename

    EDIT: Deleted music video from YouTube to prevent any copyright strikes. 3 strikes and you're out according to YouTube. I have a clean record and would like to keep it that way.

    For an idea of how much the sound sucks with rain in the mic holes, check out this video of me towing my new Worksman Port-O-Trike home from the LBS
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwx6ut8-Mtk
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    Waterproof hunh? ....


    Actually, IMO, the video is more enjoyable with the music.

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    How is the camera holding up now? Does it work again now that it's dried out?

    ( I ask because I lost a very expensive still camera to water damage while I was hiking last year. )
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Waterproof hunh? ....


    Actually, IMO, the video is more enjoyable with the music.
    Yeah, in this case the minute of raw video where you get to hear rain hitting the camera gives you an idea of what the rest of the ride is going to be like. I didn't think people would be missing much, especially with the messed-up audio.

    I looked at the mic hole after the camera had dried out. It is tiny! No wonder it got plugged up so easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    How is the camera holding up now? Does it work again now that it's dried out?

    ( I ask because I lost a very expensive still camera to water damage while I was hiking last year. )
    So far it seems to be working fine. When I got home I dried the camera off with a paper towel and opened up the battery and charging port doors to let it air out.

    I formatted the memory card and made a test recording. So far so good, but I'm not going to bother with using it on a long rainy ride. I've heard too many horror stories of so-called "waterproof" cameras failing after getting wet. The Casio EX-G1 is one of those. I tried it and promptly took it back. It had the worst sounding audio I've ever heard when mounted on my bike. According to several Amazon reviewers, it died after getting wet, so I'm glad I got rid of it.

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    Hi FTPU,
    I have used the PS in the rain multiple times now - one ride was 3 hours in heavy rain. I too had the issue with the rain hitting the mic and "dubbing" out the sound. However,I kind of expected this as the mic is going to get wet when used in the rain. My PS always works fine after getting home and just wiping off the rain with a rag - just a quick, external wipe over.
    Did the water get inside? The camera is supposed to be good for using in water up to 10ft - actually underwater! Did the SD card get wet?

    Cool videos though

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    Quote Originally Posted by magohn View Post
    Did the water get inside? The camera is supposed to be good for using in water up to 10ft - actually underwater! Did the SD card get wet?

    Cool videos though
    Thanks No, the SD card didn't get wet. Contacts weren't dirty or dusty either, so I have no idea what could have caused that sudden shutoff. It's unnerving because I don't want the camera to power down in the middle of some good climbing footage

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    I don't know if I'm missing something, but how come I wasn't able to fade from 100% raw to 100% music? WMM would only let me fade to half-and-half once the song started. It turned out okay, except for braking noise a couple times, especially at the end when I'm descending the bridge. The bike has a rear band brake and a front caliper brake with steel rims, so it's noisy when braking in the rain.

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    So inquiring minds wanna know - when do you ride the trike versus the road bike, and why'd you get the new one - is it an upgrade over the old one?

    Nice choice of music!

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    My playsport randomly shuts off sometimes when I'm recording. Other times it does not. So I don't think it is just the rain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    I don't know if I'm missing something, but how come I wasn't able to fade from 100% raw to 100% music? WMM would only let me fade to half-and-half once the song started. It turned out okay, except for braking noise a couple times, especially at the end when I'm descending the bridge. The bike has a rear band brake and a front caliper brake with steel rims, so it's noisy when braking in the rain.
    The sound can be tricky. If I use the music edit section, I have to turn up the music, then click on video and turn the sound level down. You may have to edit, then split the music to get different levels as well.

    What I do to make it easy is make the raw video, then make the music portion, then piece them together. Much easier.

    I make the music section separately cause it's easier to click on the project tab, then the music level is contolled by the "one" bar rather than having to go to edit "video sound" and edit "music sound" and splitting the music to accomplish this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaDawg View Post
    So inquiring minds wanna know - when do you ride the trike versus the road bike, and why'd you get the new one - is it an upgrade over the old one?

    Nice choice of music!
    Thank you A friend introduced me to that remix when imeem.com was still around, and I dealt with it, if you know what I mean

    I only ride my road bike on climbing rides, so it's strictly a recreational ride. My recumbent tadpole trike is also strictly for recreation. For everything else I use my three trikes or my Trek 7000 WSD hybrid. I have a Specialized Sirrus hybrid that's a back-up for the road bike, but I need to put climbing gears on it since the biggest cog in the back is only a 24.

    I bought the Worksman Port-O-Trike because it is smalller and lighter than the other two trikes, and it folds.

    Quote Originally Posted by eay View Post
    My playsport randomly shuts off sometimes when I'm recording. Other times it does not. So I don't think it is just the rain.
    Not good. When I do a long climb I don't want that happening. Kodak really needs to release a firmware update to address that issue. If that's not possible they should do a recall. There's no excuse for a camera to shut off randomly like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    The sound can be tricky. If I use the music edit section, I have to turn up the music, then click on video and turn the sound level down. You may have to edit, then split the music to get different levels as well.

    What I do to make it easy is make the raw video, then make the music portion, then piece them together. Much easier.

    I make the music section separately cause it's easier to click on the project tab, then the music level is contolled by the "one" bar rather than having to go to edit "video sound" and edit "music sound" and splitting the music to accomplish this.
    I had the music turned all the way up, but when I turned the video volume all the way down at the beginning of the song it turned down the volume on the raw part before the song too, making it a silent movie I did what you do, edit the video part first, then drop the mp3 in there right where the words on the screen are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    I did what you do, edit the video part first, then drop the mp3 in there right where the words on the screen are.
    That aint what I do. It might appear that way but I figured out what works best and easiest for me.

    dont pay too much attention to this: 3 ways to control sound levels, thru the video sound slide bar, thru the music sound slide bar and thru the project tab slide bar. Instead of messing with all 3 of them, I use only the project slide bar......gets confusing



    my way
    1) I make a video of the raw footage I want to use.




    2) I go into movie maker a second time and create a music video of the footage I want to use ( hit "project" tab, then slide bar at the left allows me to easliy adjust the music to sound level.) Here I went all music, no raw sound. Sometimes I rearrange the ride footage.



    3) I go into Movie maker a thrid time and connect/mix the two together. So it appears I mixed the levels but all I did is actually connect two separate videos. (notice at 30 seonds in, the music comes in which is actually a separate music video, same footage but with music)

    Final product (minus titles/credits)..... I use the "animations" tab to blend the vids together . animation tab, then select style desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    That aint what I do. It might appear that way but I figured out what works best and easiest for me.

    dont pay too much attention to this: 3 ways to control sound levels, thru the video sound slide bar, thru the music sound slide bar and thru the project tab slide bar. Instead of messing with all 3 of them, I use only the project slide bar......gets confusing



    my way
    1) I make a video of the raw footage I want to use.

    2) I go into movie maker a second time and create a music video of the footage I want to use ( hit "project" tab, then slide bar at the left allows me to easliy adjust the music to sound level.) Here I went all music, no raw sound. Sometimes I rearrange the ride footage.

    3) I go into Movie maker a thrid time and connect/mix the two together. So it appears I mixed the levels but all I did is actually connect two separate videos. (notice at 30 seonds in, the music comes in which is actually a separate music video, same footage but with music)

    Final product (minus titles/credits)..... I use the "animations" tab to blend the vids together . animation tab, then select style desired.
    I made a test video in this thread. I had to use my Casio point-and-shoot that records in .avi format, and edit the video on my Windows Vista machine that has the old version of WMM. That version allows you to edit in "timeline" mode and fade music/raw video in and out. I did this because I noticed slight degradation of image quality in your final version when you panned to the Dark Side Of The Room where your bikes are That is caused by having to re-encode the video to add the music. Since my video was shot at night, I didn't want to re-encode any video and make my picture quality worse.

    Please understand I'm not trying to criticize your method I will have to use your method if I ever want to put music on a video made with the Playsport.

    Why Microsoft chose to leave out such important features in WLMM 2011 is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    I will have to use your method if I ever want to put music on a video made with the Playsport..
    I thought that was the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I thought that was the point.
    Well, since I don't always use the Playsport, I figured I'd use the method that gives me the best results. Night video always sucks compared to day, so that's why I chose my method

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