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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 03-18-11, 10:27 PM   #1
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Advice for a newbie on components and other various things...

So, I am new to cycling. I bought a diamondback insight 1 last year to try and lose weight (lost 76 pounds and am addicted to riding). I don't have a lot of extra cah layin around, but really want to upgrade to a real road bike (still have another 70lbs to go). This brings me to my question. I don't k ow that I will ever need a crazy nice bike, I just want to be able to keep up. I pretty well settled on the Tommaso Mondial (http://www.giantnerd.com/tommaso-mon...FUNl7AodU17h-Q) but am not sure which componetry package to go with. Ultegra 6700, 6600, or mix with 105.

Will I even know the difference? Is the extra money worth it? Every dollar more is another dollar to convince my wife of ($800 sounds a lot less than $900 . The only reason I'm thinking of the upgrade 6700 is because I have smaller hands and on bikes at LBS I've felt like the brake shifters were a little out of reach and it looks like this is adjustable on the 6700.

Any suggestions? Anyone ridden the Mondial? Thanks so much, I'm looking forward to learning from this community!
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Old 03-18-11, 10:37 PM   #2
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105 is good.
Congratulation on the weight loss.
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Old 03-18-11, 10:59 PM   #3
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I've ridden wihta guy aht has a Tommaso. He does well on the clmbs but a liteweight dude. Bike seems very solid but he has lower end components (below 105) and has lot sof adjustment problems with it. But the bike is pretty solid.

I myself have Ultega rear/105 front der. and shifters on my roadie, never a problem other than replacing a worn cable after 7000 miles. ($10).

The Alex wheels might leave you wanting a more durable rear wheel down the road, but most clydes usually do with any stock wheel.


There are a few pics and some video of him on his bike on this page of my blog. I believe he might have paid about $500 but lower end than your model. I must say he's doing it on mtn rides with 5,000 ft of climbing and I know lots of riders with highend/custom bikes $3,000-$9,000 that don't.

The frame seems solid. But as most learn, after riding so much, anything can wear, replace components as needed but the frame should give you your moneys worth.
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Old 03-18-11, 11:32 PM   #4
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spend the extra $100 for the Ultegra. I've heard of people having problems with missed shifts on full 105 systems. One of the reasons I spent the extra for SRAM Rival on my road bike.
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Old 03-18-11, 11:53 PM   #5
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I have SRAM Rival on my Roubaix and the wife as 105 on her Ruby. Both bikes bought at the same time in 2010 and both systems have never missed a beat in literally thousands of miles....
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Old 03-19-11, 12:26 AM   #6
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Will I even know the difference? Is the extra money worth it?
Why not test-ride some bikes with different component groups and see if you notice the difference for yourself? I do notice a difference, but that doesn't mean you will...
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Old 03-19-11, 12:47 AM   #7
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I have SRAM Rival on my Roubaix and the wife as 105 on her Ruby. Both bikes bought at the same time in 2010 and both systems have never missed a beat in literally thousands of miles....
well there was the fact the SRAM Rival was on the BBQ black CAAD9-4 and the 105 was on a blue Synapse 5
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Old 03-19-11, 08:05 AM   #8
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My wife has a 2010 Ruby elite with 105 series, and I have a Madone with Ultegra/Dura Ace. If i had to do it all over, I would've save $$ and bought a 105 class carbon bike and used the difference to get a nice MTN bike, that way I'd have 2 really nice bikes instead of 1 super nice bike. Don't get me wrong, I love the Madone, but the weight of the components 105 vs. Ultegra isn't worth the price jump in "bike class" because I'm a Clyde/240lbs.

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Old 03-19-11, 09:46 AM   #9
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kentopolis, You'll be quite happy with the 105 group.

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Old 03-19-11, 10:23 AM   #10
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So, I am new to cycling. I bought a diamondback insight 1 last year to try and lose weight (lost 76 pounds and am addicted to riding). I don't have a lot of extra cah layin around, but really want to upgrade to a real road bike (still have another 70lbs to go). This brings me to my question. I don't k ow that I will ever need a crazy nice bike, I just want to be able to keep up. I pretty well settled on the Tommaso Mondial (http://www.giantnerd.com/tommaso-mon...FUNl7AodU17h-Q) but am not sure which componetry package to go with. Ultegra 6700, 6600, or mix with 105.

Will I even know the difference? Is the extra money worth it? Every dollar more is another dollar to convince my wife of ($800 sounds a lot less than $900 . The only reason I'm thinking of the upgrade 6700 is because I have smaller hands and on bikes at LBS I've felt like the brake shifters were a little out of reach and it looks like this is adjustable on the 6700.

Any suggestions? Anyone ridden the Mondial? Thanks so much, I'm looking forward to learning from this community!
Unless I have a lot of experience with a particular brand, I would not buy a bike I have not ridden. The most important 3 factors in buying a bicycle are fit, fit and did I mention fit. You can't test the fit on a bike, unless you have been on that bike, and you can't test ride a bicycle online. No two bicycle manufacturers use the same tape measure, so for some riders brand X fits better then brand Y, and brand Z fits better then X. Sometimes the brand Z that fits best is a different size then the brand X that fits best, but the brand X in that size is torture. Rider size can also affect fit, a rider with a large Molson Muscle, will fit a bicycle differently then a rider of the same height and inseam without the Molson Muscle, so, the ideal, is to stick with the Diamondback until the end of June, try to lose a good portion of that 70lbs, then spend July and August bike shops and test riding bikes, buy in September or October when dealers are trying to get rid of this years stock so they have room for the skis and snowshoes.....
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I have SRAM Rival on my Roubaix and the wife as 105 on her Ruby. Both bikes bought at the same time in 2010 and both systems have never missed a beat in literally thousands of miles....
The key is keeping them finely tuned. I have DA on my Canni and 105/ Ultegra on my Lemond. I notice a difference in the shifters "click" but after 5 mintues, I wouldn't know what bike I was riding in a blind fold test. 105 shifters have about 18,000 miles an still shift flawlessly.

I have seen some dudes with high end stuff that shifts like poop cause it's out of adjustment. Matter of fact, a buddy had a nice DeRosa with Ultegra parts. His rear shifter wasn't doing so well after one of those $100 tuneups at the LBS. He mentioned it to the shop and the reponse was "that's why we sell Dura Ace" I asked about his rear when I saw that he was having problems on our ride. He told me hte story. We hoppped off the bikes and within a minute, it was running smoothly. I rode with him for 2 more years and he never had a problem with it during that time.
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Old 03-19-11, 01:30 PM   #12
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If you are not familiar with either components I doubt you would notice a difference. Even Xmart bike components work well enough when adjusted properly.

Since you are trying to sell the idea to your wife. You need to compare it to a bike a lot more expensive. Something like the Tommaso Superleggera Road Bike.

Try this:
You: "Hi honey, I was looking at bikes and came across this one for $1700. It would be a great bike"

Her: "That is way to expensive. If you spend all that money, we <I mean me> won't have money for stuff that the family needs <I mean me> like shoes, makeup, hair appointments, and clothes."

You: "Well how bout this one for $800, I guess i could sacrifice for the family <I mean you>. Especially since we <I mean you> need new shoes for every single outfit plus hair and makeup appointments so you <I mean the family> won't suffer.

Her: That's why I love you honey, You are willing to sacrifice for the family <I mean me>.
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Old 03-19-11, 04:08 PM   #13
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You could also buy a leftover 2010 (or even 2009 if your LBS still has one in your size). Then you can show her what a spendthrift you have been by saving 20% or so over the current model year bike. Worked for me
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