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    New toy - 1st carbon frame for me

    I can't figure out how to link this as an image so here is a link to the carbon frame I just purchase as my reward for 8 weeks of success on my 52 lbs in 52 weeks(225.4 - 216.4 last night). I realize that this a used carbon frame and that I'm taking a risk that its not usable. But at $260 I figure that is a risk worth taking as the way I would have gone othersize was to purchase a frame direct from China. SO no lectures about the risks of used carbon please.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150575558773

    It should be in my hands by the end of the week and now I can start building up the parts to go on it. The plan is to see if I can build a 16 lb bike that is clyde safe for $750 in parts (not including shipping).

    So far I now have the frame, a front deraileur (105), the one of the new rims (H + son SL42) I'll attach to a current set of Reynolds hubs, the stem, a seat, and a set of brakes. I'm planning to buy Microshift Arsis rear deraileur and shifters ($200 new), so that will leave $200 for everything else. It will be tough since it looks like I'll need to spend $100 for the crankset. But if I can get all the parts and have it together by end of June I should have a sleek climbing machine for the Mountain Mama ride first weekend of August.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


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    ihave the regular microshift brifters and like them a lot. there are ultegra cranks going for around $150 brand new all over the internet so you may not be too far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
    ihave the regular microshift brifters and like them a lot. there are ultegra cranks going for around $150 brand new all over the internet so you may not be too far off.
    I'm looking at either the FSA hollow core Energy compact cranks or FSA gossamer compact. I'm toying with going to a 170 length arm instead of the 172.5 I currently ride as a small effort to take a little load of my knees and also force myself to spin more.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


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    I have an FSA gossamer. I wouldn't buy another one. It doesn't shift all that well, and I think it's the reason why chains don't last on that bike.
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    I have an FSA gossamer. I wouldn't buy another one. It doesn't shift all that well, and I think it's the reason why chains don't last on that bike.
    I've had a number of FSA cranksets and not had any problems.But the more I read about the current versions, I may rethink the idea of using one. Any suggestions on light and affordable compacts would be appreciated?
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


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    Nice man. I bought a Bianchi Infinito last year and the carbon is fantastic. I'm 250ish and pedal hard for short distances and carbon, by far, was the best choice for me. Has held up great too (cant say so much for the wheels though).

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    tons of compact and triple cranks here. buy it now is very reasonable and if you bid you'll probably come away with one for less

    Forgot to post the link, here you go!
    http://stores.ebay.com/wheelandsproc..._sid=164232633
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    Quote Originally Posted by natbla View Post
    SO no lectures about the risks of used carbon please.
    But lecturing others on the choices they make is what we do best ;-).
    1. you need at least 32 spoke wheels
    2. you can not ride on 23mm tires
    3. carbon will break catastrophically
    4. aluminum is to harsh
    5. road bikes are uncomfortable
    6. get a hybrid
    7. etc, etc, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
    tons of compact and triple cranks here. buy it now is very reasonable and if you bid you'll probably come away with one for less

    Forgot to post the link, here you go!
    http://stores.ebay.com/wheelandsproc..._sid=164232633
    Anyone mixed a SRAM Rival crankset with Shimono type shifter/derailleurs? I found a good price based on a fellow Clyde's PM but wasn't sure if it would work together with my derailleur/shifter choice.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


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    So here is the list of parts accumulated so far:

    Frame: Seigler Carbon Frame
    Fork: Look full carbon fork
    Front DR: 105 braze on (may swap this out)
    Crankset; Truvativ Rouleur Carbon compact w/ BB
    Rim: H+Sons SL42 24h black iodized color

    total cost so far: $365.12

    BTW, I will have a use Forte 1" full carbon fork to trade/sell. I purchased it thinking it was 1 1/8" fork, but figured out that it 1" after I paid for it. So anyone want it when it gets here PM me. Once its here, I'll post it in the for trade section w/ pictures along with an FSA BB.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by natbla View Post
    Anyone mixed a SRAM Rival crankset with Shimono type shifter/derailleurs? I found a good price based on a fellow Clyde's PM but wasn't sure if it would work together with my derailleur/shifter choice.
    cranks are probably the most compatible piece of the equation, youshouldn't have too much trouble.

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    Updated list of parts accumulated so far as of 3/28:

    Frame: Seigler Carbon Frame (arrives today
    Fork: Look full carbon fork
    Front DR: Dura ace 7800 braze on ( part of a huge steal at midnight last night)
    Rear DR: Ultegra 6600 (part of the same $26 steal on ebay)
    Handle bars: Trek Dimension wing - anyone know what rebranded source this is so I can find a weight for it?
    Crankset; Truvativ Rouleur Carbon compact w/ BB
    Rim: H+Sons SL42 24h black iodized color

    total cost so far: $396.11


    I still need to purchase/swap in from the parts box/trade for - Shifters, chain, brakes, seat post, saddle, tires, pedals, FR clamp, haddle bar tape, rear cassette, and the rest of the parts for the wheel build.

    BTW, I will have a use Forte 1" full carbon fork to trade/sell. I purchased it thinking it was 1 1/8" fork, but figured out that it 1" after I paid for it. So anyone want it when it gets here PM me. Once its here, I'll post it in the for trade section w/ pictures along with an FSA BB.
    Last edited by natbla; 03-28-11 at 10:49 AM. Reason: missed an item on my list
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


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    Well on the plus side I have my full drive train as I ended up with a used set of Dura Ace 10 speed shifters for $120. Here is the updated list of parts accumulated so far as of 9:00 PM 3/28:

    Frame: Seigler Carbon Frame (arrives today
    Fork: Look full carbon fork
    Shifters: Dura ace
    Front DR: Dura ace 7800 braze on ( part of a huge steal at midnight last night)
    Rear DR: Ultegra 6600 (part of the same $26 steal on ebay)
    Handle bars: Trek Dimension wing - anyone know what rebranded source this is so I can find a weight for it?
    Crankset; Truvativ Rouleur Carbon compact w/ BB
    Rim: H+Sons SL42 24h black iodized color

    total cost so far: $516.11


    I still need to purchase/swap in from the parts box/trade for - chain, brakes, seat post, saddle, tires, pedals, FD clamp, haddle bar tape, rear cassette, and the rest of the parts for the wheel build.

    BTW, I now have a use Forte 1" full carbon fork to trade/sell. I purchased it thinking it was 1 1/8" fork, but figured out that it 1" after I paid for it. So anyone want it when it gets here PM me. I've post it in the for road forum's trade section.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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    Congrats on your weight loss, and best of luck reaching your goal.

    Now figure out how to post pictures before your frame arrives!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrClyde View Post
    Congrats on your weight loss, and best of luck reaching your goal.

    Now figure out how to post pictures before your frame arrives!
    Unfortunately, the frame arrive, and a detailed evaluation of the scratches found that there is a small crack in the downtube so I'll be availing myself of the seller's return policy. I did the coin tap test and there is a significant change in tone at the point of the crack. I had it looked at by a couple people and they agreed I shouldn't fool with it and send it back. IF had been in the sea tpost, I would have tried to work with it. Hopefully, the return goes smoothly and I can find another frame I can afford. Such is life, onward and upward (or downward in the case of my weight).
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


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    Here is the updated list of parts accumulated so far as of 3/30 now that I sent back the cracked frame:

    Frame:
    Fork: Look full carbon fork ($50)
    headset:
    Shifters: Dura ace 7801 10 speed ($120)
    shifter/brake cables:
    seat post:
    seat clamp:
    FD clamp:
    chain:
    seat: Nashbar R2 saddle ($0 from the parts bin, I'll replace with something else if funds are available at the end)
    tires:
    pedals:
    cassette:
    bar tape:
    Front DR: Dura ace 7800 braze on (6.50)
    Rear DR: Ultegra 6600 (19.50)
    Handle bars: Dimension compact wing - (4.99)
    Crankset; Truvativ Rouleur Carbon compact w/ BB ($55.12)
    Rim: H+Sons SL42 24h black iodized color ($87)

    total cost so far: $256.11


    I still need to purchase/swap in from the parts box/trade for - chain, brakes, seat post, saddle, tires, pedals, FD clamp, haddle bar tape, rear cassette, and the rest of the parts for the wheel build.
    Last edited by natbla; 04-01-11 at 01:54 PM. Reason: Add a detail
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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    Natbla, what type of pedals do you ride and you'll need the frame to know what size seat post, but I may have something laying around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txvintage View Post
    Natbla, what type of pedals do you ride and you'll need the frame to know what size seat post, but I may have something laying around.
    I use speedplay light action. I may have a trade in the works that will get me some pedal. I'm hoping to have a frame soon once I get my refund for the original frame. After that I'll figure out the stem and seat post item.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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    Updated again with a couple items I was able to get through a BF trade for the 1" fork I purchased:

    Frame:
    Fork: Look full carbon fork ($50)
    headset:
    Shifters: Dura ace 7801 10 speed ($120)
    shifter/brake cables:
    seat post:
    seat clamp:
    FD clamp:
    chain:
    seat: Nashbar R2 saddle ($0 from the parts bin, I'll replace with something else if funds are available at the end)
    tires:GP 4000 (traded for 1 and had 1 already)
    pedals:Speedplay light action (traded for it)
    cassette:
    bar tape:
    Front DR: Dura ace 7800 braze on (6.50)
    Rear DR: Ultegra 6600 (19.50)
    Handle bars: Dimension compact wing - (4.99)
    Crankset; Truvativ Rouleur Carbon compact w/ BB ($55.12)
    Rim: H+Sons SL42 24h black iodized color ($87)

    total cost so far: $256.11


    I still need to purchase/swap in from the parts box/trade for - chain, brakes, seat post, saddle, FD clamp, haddle bar tape, rear cassette, and the rest of the parts for the wheel build.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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    Updated again with almost all of the items I need for the build (just missing FD clamp, and seat post):

    Frame:Chinerello Frame set ($330)
    Fork: full carbon fork include w/ frame
    headset: included with frame
    Shifters: Dura ace 7801 10 speed ($120)
    shifter/brake cables: Jagwire Cable set ($13.95)
    carbon or light aluminum seat post:
    seat clamp: included w/ frame (0)
    Token FD clamp:
    chain: Ultegra 10 speed came with derailluers (0)
    seat: Nashbar R2 saddle ($0 from the parts bin, I'll replace with something else if funds are available at the end)
    tires:GP 4000 (traded for 1 and had 1 already)
    pedals:Speedplay light action (traded for it)
    cassette: SRAM 1070 11-28 (from current bike)
    bar tape: F.U.B.A.R. red carbon (4.99)
    Brake set: Tektro 570 w/ koolstop pads ($39.95
    Front DR: Dura ace 7800 braze on (6.50)
    Rear DR: Ultegra 6600 (19.50)
    Handle bars: Dimension compact wing - (4.99)
    Crankset; Truvativ Rouleur Carbon compact w/ BB ($55.12)
    Rear wheel: H+Sons SL42 24h black iodized color built on a Reynolds rear hub ($187)
    Front wheel: Reynold Alta Areorace from spare wheelset

    total cost so far: $835.03 ( 85.03 over budget so far)

    Projected weight including estimated weights for missing items - 7481 grams or 16.5 lbs


    I hope the frame set and last few items arrive on schedule, and then I can attempt my first build. I expect to have everything on hand by mid June at the latest.

    Here is a picture from the listing of the frame set I bought:



    PS. I now have a used look fork I don't need for the build if anyone is interested PM me to discuss.
    Last edited by natbla; 05-12-11 at 07:59 AM. Reason: Updated weight estimate and item purchases
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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    Nice!

    Curvy like a Pinarello!

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    Too bad Pinarello doesn't have recourse from copycat manufaturers in China. Hope your Chinerello is made better than my fake Rolex was...
    It doesn't get harder, you just go slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeyba View Post
    Too bad Pinarello doesn't have recourse from copycat manufaturers in China. Hope your Chinerello is made better than my fake Rolex was...
    Fair enough, I guess I could have picked a different frame style. But at the end of the day, I just like the way this frame looks even though I could have save $30-$40 if I'd picked one of the 3 other frame styles available. According to ebay, the frame has been posted as shipped so hopefully I'll get a tracking number in the 3-5 days.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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    Oh man I just got the Chinerello/Pinarello thing.

    How will you paint/finish the frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brando_T. View Post
    Oh man I just got the Chinerello/Pinarello thing.

    How will you paint/finish the frame?
    For now I'm planning on leaving alone with the 12K nude finish. I may add some red race stripes or even a few words at a later time. I just purchased red bar tape and have a red GP4000 tire for one wheel (still need a second one), so red accents against black is what I'm going for at this point.
    just spinning the wheels and up and over the hills of Western Maryland. Hmm make that the Hocking Hills of Ohio.


    http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt...QXa/weight.png

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