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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 03-25-11, 08:05 AM   #1
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Often overlooked bicycle choice for Clydes/Athenas

I don't remember having ever seen a recommendation for a touring bike. They're built to take a load and perform well in multiple on-road (perhaps also light off road) tasks.

Here's a pic of my Cannondale T700:


Just a thought.

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Old 03-25-11, 08:17 AM   #2
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A good thought, Brad. Good touring bikes aren't cheap, but compared to what you can spend on a far less capable and durable road bike, they offer solid value.
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I don't remember having ever seen a recommendation for a touring bike. They're built to take a load and perform well in multiple on-road (perhaps also light off road) tasks.

Here's a pic of my Cannondale T700:


Just a thought.

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Got one of those ('98 model year) decaying on my basement floor. Tortured it for 10,000 fully-loaded miles (some unpaved) back in '99-'00 as well as some miscellaneous road miles. The only thing I discovered that was sub-standard were the Sun rims. The rear never made it across the country. The front had to be replaced the following winter before its second long trip.

Here is the latest commuting/touring workhorse after last night's rack and pannier test fit:




Without the racks and panniers, it will set you back about $1,200. Rivendell Big front and back racks, Ortlieb Sport Packer (front) and Bike Packer (rear) panniers. Maiden loaded ride scheduled for Easter weekend. Then it's off to Montana in late June for 8 days from/to Missoula on paved and unpaved roads.

Had an '08 model, but it was stolen out of my house a week before Christmas.
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Old 03-25-11, 10:27 AM   #4
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I routinely recommend touring bikes to clydes, or anybody just starting out; specifically the LHT as I ride one and am totally happy with the bike- great tough-ish utilitarian bike at a good price point. Comfy too!
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I'm thinking real hard about giving myself a LHT when I get down to 250. The bike would take me at my present weight but I'm thinking in terms of the motivation of not allowing myself to pull the trigger on a deal until I've reached the goal weight.
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i recommend them often, they are just a road bike with relaxed geometry and a few more gadgets. I think the issue is that true "touring" bikes aren't necessarily sold or marketed much so they are harder to find.
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Touring bikes make excellent all around bikes and commuters. But with any bike there are both positives and negatives.

Did you really pay $1200 indyfabz? I bought my LHT from Trophy Bikes in Philly for $950 back in '08.
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I think the issue is that true "touring" bikes aren't necessarily sold or marketed much so they are harder to find.
There is definitely truth in that statement. I traveled from Philly to Ithaca to take a look at touring bikes when I was shopping. Only the 520 and T2 were available in my area.
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Got one of those ('98 model year) decaying on my basement floor.
You ought to help it find a new home if you're not going to do anything with it.
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ChrisO and motobecane69, Sorry, but I missed your post WRT recommending touring frame.

Kerrvillian, A great area to ride, I'll PM you next time I'm there with a bike. A worthy reward, BTW!

indyfabz, Gotta agree with RichardGlover.

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It's a beautiful area to ride. Hopefully my combination of exercise, bike riding and diet will keep me motivated and mobile this summer so I get to see more of it from atop two wheels! I've had the hunger for longer rides while the reality of my physical condition builds to tolerate them.

I'd been lusting for an LHT after reading of Chubby Super Biker (a blogger) and his exploits on his LHT!
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I commuted on a 26" wheel touring bike (similar to a Kona Sutra) for more than 20 years, then sold it just before I moved. Partly it was because it was showing it's age, partly because I didn't think I'd need it any more. I'm now looking for another one, as the aluminum IGH hybrid that I bought to replace it is limited and actually 10 pounds heavier. It's down to a Rocky Mountain Sherpa (hand-built wheels!) or an Opus Legato.
Pity Cannondale doesn't do one any more. Marin makes one called the Four Corners that looks like a nice machine.
I suppose cyclocross bikes have replaced tourers to a large extent. Perhaps touring bikes also have a stodgy image problem. Then too, people who buy them tend to keep them a long time, unlike the racing crowd who just have to have the latest thing every two or three years. So, I suppose bike companies don't get as much profit from making them.
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I commuted on a 26" wheel touring bike (similar to a Kona Sutra) for more than 20 years, then sold it just before I moved. Partly it was because it was showing it's age, partly because I didn't think I'd need it any more. I'm now looking for another one, as the aluminum IGH hybrid that I bought to replace it is limited and actually 10 pounds heavier. It's down to a Rocky Mountain Sherpa (hand-built wheels!) or an Opus Legato.
Pity Cannondale doesn't do one any more. Marin makes one called the Four Corners that looks like a nice machine.
I suppose cyclocross bikes have replaced tourers to a large extent. Perhaps touring bikes also have a stodgy image problem. Then too, people who buy them tend to keep them a long time, unlike the racing crowd who just have to have the latest thing every two or three years. So, I suppose bike companies don't get as much profit from making them.
Take a look at the Raleigh Sojourn. I think it's pretty sweet.
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Take a look at the Raleigh Sojourn. I think it's pretty sweet.
I haven't seen Raleigh in any of the bike shops here. In this part of the world Raleigh is a cheap department store brand. It may be different in the 'states.
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I haven't seen Raleigh in any of the bike shops here. In this part of the world Raleigh is a cheap department store brand. It may be different in the 'states.
Raleigh Canada. Sojourn.
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I really enjoy my LHT, it is a great bike. One of the things that I enjoy is being able to touch the ground with my foot while in the saddle at a light. I have toured, grocery shopped and commuted on it. I highly recommend it to anyone clyde or not.
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It's down to a Rocky Mountain Sherpa (hand-built wheels!) or an Opus Legato.
Pity Cannondale doesn't do one any more. Marin makes one called the Four Corners that looks like a nice machine.
Both good Canadian choices. I have the Opus Largo myself, and really like it so far. But I only have about 40km on it at this point.
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I really enjoy my LHT, it is a great bike. One of the things that I enjoy is being able to touch the ground with my foot while in the saddle at a light. I have toured, grocery shopped and commuted on it. I highly recommend it to anyone clyde or not.
That's another good point WRT touring frames. The bottom bracket shell is closer to the ground compared to a traditional racing frame, which allows the saddle to be closer to the ground.

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Yes, I'm aware that there's a Raleigh Canada, but none of the bike shops in this city will carry it because one of the major department stores sells cheap junky bikes with the Raleigh name. They have no doubt gotten tired of people walking in, looking at the price, and loudly exclaiming that they can get a Raleigh for only $200 or so at the XXX department store. One local shop stopped selling Jamis for the same reason; they started selling to Sport Chek who will of course seem a much better deal to someone who knows squat about bikes and doesn't understand the importance of service and proper assembly.
In any case - I've bought the Rocky Mountain! It's last year's model on sale, and I did actually test ride it in the fall. I'll get it later this week when they've upgraded the Sora shifters, and when I've gotten over this nasty cold I'm carrying. My only issue with it is that it's black. Why do touring bikes come in such dull colors? I think I'll have it resprayed next winter.
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Rhodabike, Of course you know we'll need pictures. One of my Cannondales is black, but with a gold metalflake added to the clearcoat which can make for some dramatic outlines depending on the lighting. A red or yellow tint to a clearcoat would have the same effect.

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My only issue with it is that it's black. Why do touring bikes come in such dull colors? I think I'll have it resprayed next winter.
If I had to make a reasonable guess as to why most touring bikes are a matte color, it would be because the last thing you want to do is draw attention to your bike when you're camped out for the night.

My other theory is that they are not flashy because...they don't have to be. People who seek out touring bikes know ahead of time what model they are at the shop to check out and why. It's usually not an impulse buy where bright colors and fancy graphics have any input in the decision making process.
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Oh, and to Bradtx, that's a nice bike you got there !!!
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...It's usually not an impulse buy where bright colors and fancy graphics have any input in the decision making process.
No, impulse had nothing to do with my purchase... I'm just getting really tired of black bikes. My old touring bike was black, my road bike was black before I had it resprayed scarlet, my present commuter bike is black. Since I have no intention of camping out ever again (I wanted a touring bike for other reasons) I'm not worried on that score either. Next winter it's getting a makeover.
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I've recommended touring bikes to clydes in the past but it seems that most people looking for a first bike are looking at hybrids or flat bars of some type, I know a lot of people that think the drop bars are the most uncomfortable riding position, without trying drop bars. It also seems that the typical new rider thinks that $350 is the high end of the price range for buying a bike.
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