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WonderMonkey 03-08-14 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRides (Post 16560188)
5 flats in 15 miles? Yikes, that does sound like a problem. Before inflating the tube, make sure it's not pinched by the rim all around. I had that problem on my mountain bike, I was blowing out tubes left and right before realizing the problem was with improper installation. Fixed that and up until I moved onto my hybrid I didn't have another flat.

The major problem seems to be that the rim and tire and not compatible. The bead on the ThickSlicks isn't pronounced or deep or something and my rims are not helping. I've had these flats with these tire/rim combo on both tires. I just dropped my bike of at my LBS and they are going to put on different tires and fix the bent rim that happened when I blew this later tube.

Null66 03-08-14 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WonderMonkey (Post 16560005)
Even though I only did a 15 minute ride yesterday with intervals I can really feel it in my core. I know when I did the intervals I really pounded it in a big gear which means I was pulling with my upper body (to get up to speed) and pushing with everything I had. I TRIED to maintain good spin but I think that's something I'll have to learn to keep focus on. My lungs also feel it today. I know lungs don't get SORE but you know the feeling when you have really pushed it? That's today. Feels good.

Today I'm going to a bike shop to get my tires/rims situation fixed. Five flats in 15 (14.x) miles is a wee bit much. My wife is going to the shop with me to look at some things so I'll ride the 11 miles home to test everything out. I'll do a relaxing ride to enjoy the day and not worry about pushing it until I get a few miles form home then I'll probably increase a bit.

Did you check the tire for the bit that popped the tube?

I try and keep track of the tire orientation then when I get the tube out the leak will point to the offender...

Or perhaps there something poking through the rim tape, or elsewhere in the channel. I've seen 1/8 long burs on the rim where they drilled the spokes. In the old days I used to double tape the rim, can make it a tighter install...

WonderMonkey 03-08-14 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Null66 (Post 16560804)
Did you check the tire for the bit that popped the tube?

I try and keep track of the tire orientation then when I get the tube out the leak will point to the offender...

Or perhaps there something poking through the rim tape, or elsewhere in the channel. I've seen 1/8 long burs on the rim where they drilled the spokes. In the old days I used to double tape the rim, can make it a tighter install...

The issue is that the bead does not seat deep enough into this rim. When I came around the corner the tire just rolled off the rim. Two of the flats were not this issue. One was how I was yanking the tire pump off the valve (old tube, eventually tore) and the other was a tire tool bite from me replacing the tube. The others were the tire not seating correctly. Once the LBS guy (new shop, not the one who was helping me) figured it that was PROBABLY the problem and then when it happened again we had a choice.... new rims or new tires. We chatted and went with new tires.

Assuming this all works I now have a great set of tires with only 15 miles on them that would treat someone with the right rims very well.

Null66 03-09-14 03:01 PM

Glad it only popped, as frustrating as that was, sounds like the tire could have come off during cornering causing a unplanned dismount!

WonderMonkey 03-09-14 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Null66 (Post 16562888)
Glad it only popped, as frustrating as that was, sounds like the tire could have come off during cornering causing a unplanned dismount!

Oh I dismounted. I was like a mime riding a bike. The bike left and I was in the air doing bike things. Yet no bike.

WonderMonkey 03-09-14 10:54 PM

Hope to get my bike back soon. Nothing kills he spirit like finally getting outside on the bike, getting multiple flats and then having your bike be in the shop getting fixed. What will happen is that I'll get the bike back and it will snow and a glacier will move into town.

Stupid glaciers.

WonderMonkey 03-11-14 10:26 PM

I'm laying out my 200 mile weekend (three days, two nights) and I'm wondering if it is possible for me to ride enough to do a three day, 300 mile weekend? My entire summer's weekends are consumed with being on a ballfield a travel fastpitch (14U) team so the normal long weekend rides are going to be very limited. Commutes and "ride an hour here and there" are all I will get.

I keep hearing from others that if I get enough consistent miles in then doing 300 miles in three days is just mental. There is a point to that though as the body has to be capable of what the mind is telling it to do. What is that point?

Black wallnut 03-12-14 10:25 AM

I believe that riding centuries is as much about time in the saddle as it is about fitness. Although I've not tried to do a tour without time limits. My century rides have mostly been supported rides with time limits. The other one I have done was unsupported and I was using it a s a pre STP test to see if I was ready for a one day double century, I was.

Only you know if you can do a 300 mile weekend or is it a 200 mile weekend? Which 300 miles also matters. If it is rolling hills the the challenge is even greater. Good luck!

MikeRides 03-12-14 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by WonderMonkey (Post 16569855)
I'm laying out my 200 mile weekend (three days, two nights) and I'm wondering if it is possible for me to ride enough to do a three day, 300 mile weekend? My entire summer's weekends are consumed with being on a ballfield a travel fastpitch (14U) team so the normal long weekend rides are going to be very limited. Commutes and "ride an hour here and there" are all I will get.

I keep hearing from others that if I get enough consistent miles in then doing 300 miles in three days is just mental. There is a point to that though as the body has to be capable of what the mind is telling it to do. What is that point?

C'mon now, anyone can jump on a bike and ride 300 miles as long as they have the time. Are you trying to complete it in a set time? As long as you don't mind taking 12-14 hours to ride 100 miles each day, you could turn it into a self-tour and stop to sight see along the way to relieve your legs (even if there's nothing special to see, take 20 minute breaks to stretch every 30 miles would help).

You may have mentioned it before, but I don't recall, what was your average riding speed on your 100 mile ride last fall? Use this to indicate how long it would take you to ride and train this spring to increase your endurance before your big over nighter.

WonderMonkey 03-12-14 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Black wallnut (Post 16570990)
I believe that riding centuries is as much about time in the saddle as it is about fitness. Although I've not tried to do a tour without time limits. My century rides have mostly been supported rides with time limits. The other one I have done was unsupported and I was using it a s a pre STP test to see if I was ready for a one day double century, I was.

Only you know if you can do a 300 mile weekend or is it a 200 mile weekend? Which 300 miles also matters. If it is rolling hills the the challenge is even greater. Good luck!

Time in the saddle is certainly a huge thing. I won't have the long sustained rides to get that time but I can do daily rides of shorter duration.

A 200 mile weekend is what I'm planning but I'm wondering if a 300 mile, 3 day is possible. Given how my time in the saddle will be restricted.

WonderMonkey 03-12-14 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRides (Post 16571132)
C'mon now, anyone can jump on a bike and ride 300 miles as long as they have the time. Are you trying to complete it in a set time? As long as you don't mind taking 12-14 hours to ride 100 miles each day, you could turn it into a self-tour and stop to sight see along the way to relieve your legs (even if there's nothing special to see, take 20 minute breaks to stretch every 30 miles would help).

You may have mentioned it before, but I don't recall, what was your average riding speed on your 100 mile ride last fall? Use this to indicate how long it would take you to ride and train this spring to increase your endurance before your big over nighter.

My average speed was 10mph and I was certainly "in shape" enough to do it comfortably. I think that 10mph included breaks, etc. I'm approaching riding differently this year as last year I was just happy to be on the bike and thrilled to be on a good path on my weight loss. Last year I was "biking" and this year I'm going to have the mindset that I "am a biker". I have to be intentional about getting on the bike regardless of what else I am accomplishing. If I am not intentional then even the 200 mile weekend is questionable.

WonderMonkey 03-12-14 05:14 PM

I just got the ok to shop for another bike. I'm going to get one that is for "endurance" riding which for me is 100k and 100 milers. It has to able to handle a rear rack because I'll want to do some small touring. Right now I'm looking at the Raleigh Revenio 2.0. That will give me a nice frame, carbon fork and fair components. I'm looking for alternatives to compare against.

jsigone 03-12-14 05:59 PM

Most CX bikes have rack mounts and relax geo for "endurance" Plus can run some pretty wide slick rubber.

Kona Jake the snake with 105's $1500
Kona Jake with Tiagra $1100
Kona Rove w/ APEX $1500

Any of those framesets can be had from Bike man starting at $450 and do a slow custom build up
Bikeman Kona 2014 Jake the Snake Frameset with Carbon CX Fork, 56cm, Matt Lime with Black and White Bikeman Kona Rove, Cyclocross Frameset with Kona P2 Steel Disc Fork, 56 cm, 2014

Cannondale CAADX disc w/ 105's $1500 Cannondale CAADX Disc 105 - Trek Bicycle Superstore

Ridley Xride Disc w/ 105's $1400 shipped Ridley X-Ride/Shimano 105 Disc Complete Bike | Competitive Cyclist

Civilian Bicycle Co. Vive Le Roi De Lux $1435 shipped Civilian Bicycle Co. Vive Le Roi De Lux | Competitive Cyclist

Felt FX65 w/ Rival $1500 New Review: 2013 Felt F65x Disc Cyclocross Bike - Iron Cycles

WonderMonkey 03-12-14 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jsigone (Post 16572407)
Most CX bikes have rack mounts and relax geo for "endurance" Plus can run some pretty wide slick rubber.

Kona Jake the snake with 105's $1500
Kona Jake with Tiagra $1100
Kona Rove w/ APEX $1500

Any of those framesets can be had from Bike man starting at $450 and do a slow custom build up
Bikeman Kona 2014 Jake the Snake Frameset with Carbon CX Fork, 56cm, Matt Lime with Black and White Bikeman Kona Rove, Cyclocross Frameset with Kona P2 Steel Disc Fork, 56 cm, 2014

Cannondale CAADX disc w/ 105's $1500 Cannondale CAADX Disc 105 - Trek Bicycle Superstore

Ridley Xride Disc w/ 105's $1400 shipped Ridley X-Ride/Shimano 105 Disc Complete Bike | Competitive Cyclist

Civilian Bicycle Co. Vive Le Roi De Lux $1435 shipped Civilian Bicycle Co. Vive Le Roi De Lux | Competitive Cyclist

Felt FX65 w/ Rival $1500 New Review: 2013 Felt F65x Disc Cyclocross Bike - Iron Cycles

Thanks for the input, I'll check all that out.

WonderMonkey 03-12-14 07:44 PM

As I look at various bike I noticed that most don't come with a kickstand. I know there are several threads on "kickstand or not" and it gets quite violent in there. I know I can always put a kickstand on most any bike (not all) but if the bike I get doesn't come with one I'm going to try and get used to not having it. I will probably do some sort of stand at home or work but not for when I'm on the trail.

It's getting odd up in here!

jsigone 03-12-14 09:50 PM

you'd have to go after market for that gizmo

WonderMonkey 03-12-14 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jsigone (Post 16573054)
you'd have to go after market for that gizmo

Figured. I'm sure many make such an animal and when I look they will a few to choose from.

jsigone 03-12-14 11:31 PM

this one is cool for you do have a load or leave it at home when you are just riding around Click-Stand The Only Portable Folding Bicycle Kickstand!

Null66 03-13-14 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WonderMonkey (Post 16572708)
As I look at various bike I noticed that most don't come with a kickstand. I know there are several threads on "kickstand or not" and it gets quite violent in there. I know I can always put a kickstand on most any bike (not all) but if the bike I get doesn't come with one I'm going to try and get used to not having it. I will probably do some sort of stand at home or work but not for when I'm on the trail.

It's getting odd up in here!

Kickstand, I'm running a Pletscher Twin-Legger Kickstand on my disc trucker. My SO has a Greenfield rear mount on her Dolche. Click-stand is another well thought of...

Check out touring sites, there are lots of options...

WonderMonkey 03-13-14 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jsigone (Post 16573220)
this one is cool for you do have a load or leave it at home when you are just riding around Click-Stand The Only Portable Folding Bicycle Kickstand!

That's pretty cool! Thanks for that.

WonderMonkey 03-13-14 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Null66 (Post 16573509)
Kickstand, I'm running a Pletscher Twin-Legger Kickstand on my disc trucker. My SO has a Greenfield rear mount on her Dolche. Click-stand is another well thought of...

Check out touring sites, there are lots of options...

Will do, thanks.

MikeRides 03-13-14 09:42 AM

You don't need a kickstand! Just stop in a location where there's a tree, fence post, or building to lean it up against. If there's nothing around to lean it up against, don't stop. Bikes are meant to be rode not parked :)

WonderMonkey 03-13-14 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeRides (Post 16574084)
You don't need a kickstand! Just stop in a location where there's a tree, fence post, or building to lean it up against. If there's nothing around to lean it up against, don't stop. Bikes are meant to be rode not parked :)

Oh Mike.... mike mike mike...... when you have to pee, you have to pee.

Black wallnut 03-13-14 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WonderMonkey (Post 16574432)
Oh Mike.... mike mike mike...... when you have to pee, you have to pee.

If you have to pee you are not riding hard enough! Pedal on curb works unless it is windy.

WonderMonkey 03-13-14 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Black wallnut (Post 16574459)
If you have to pee you are not riding hard enough! Pedal on curb works unless it is windy.

Make sure I'm dehydrated so I don't pee. Check. Got it. I think that's fair.


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