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Old 05-17-11, 08:38 PM   #1
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First century done!

Finally got around to doing a century ride Granted it was only a metric century (turned out to be closer to 110km) I feel like I can probably do a 100mi soon. Man climbing is still my huge weakness. What are some of your climbing strategies? I feel riding OTS for us heavier riders is less efficient.

I also ended up with sore hamstrings, I wonder if this was simply because I pushed my self hard, or it's something wrong with my riding position?
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Congrats on the first century. Not sure about the sore hams, do you feel them on shorter rides. It is possible that when your quads and gluts got tired, your form may have changed slightly causing your hams some strain. Is it like delayed onset muscle sorness (like a gym workout) or more of a stinging type pain?
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Congrats on the century, it's a great feeling isn't it?

Not sure about the Hams, are you trying to consciously pull up on the pedals? That would work the hams but the normal downstroke tends to work the quads more.
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Congrats on the first century. Not sure about the sore hams, do you feel them on shorter rides. It is possible that when your quads and gluts got tired, your form may have changed slightly causing your hams some strain. Is it like delayed onset muscle sorness (like a gym workout) or more of a stinging type pain?
Thanks! It was quite a feat for myself.

It was soreness for a day or two, not a stinging pain. (a little cramping during the ride, but fine after stretches)

I definitely don't feel my hamstrings getting tired/sore on shorter rides, so I see your point. My form must've changed. I think I started pulling up more rather than pushing down on the pedals during some points that I got tired.

I admit I was a bit worried because I had never experienced strain on my hamstrings in previous rides.


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Congrats on the century, it's a great feeling isn't it?

Not sure about the Hams, are you trying to consciously pull up on the pedals? That would work the hams but the normal downstroke tends to work the quads more.
Felt awesome! I think I could have done the full 100mi century. It was mind over matter at that point I think.

I did notice that I was trying to pull up more as my quads got tired later in the ride. That must've been it. Thanks guys!
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Congrats on the ride, well done.

The hamstrings could be telling you that maybe a a few electrolytes / vitamins and most certainly water might be absent, especially if you are getting some cramping. Just a thought.

For hills and I'm no shining star there either, I try to stay in the saddle and occasionally get out to vary the routine or for a short burst.
Sounds trite, but improving my attitude towards hills, and forcing myself to find a sustainable pace has helped. I guess it means I have gone to lower gears quicker and not been concentrating so much on speed as keeping a pace that I feel I can manage to maintain for the duration of the hill. Also, focusing on tiny parts of the hill and not the whole thing at once seems to have a favourable impact on me.
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Seve, I see you are riding a Cervelo RS. Do you feel the RS made a difference in climbing hills compare to other bikes?
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Congrats! I just completed my first metric this weekend as well. I was definitely a lot more sore after this ride as well so I feel your pain. lol
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Congratulations! I'd love to do my first one sometime soon. How fast were you averaging and how long did it take?
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Congrats! I just completed my first metric this weekend as well. I was definitely a lot more sore after this ride as well so I feel your pain. lol
Congrats to you too!

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Congratulations! I'd love to do my first one sometime soon. How fast were you averaging and how long did it take?
According to my GPS, it was 4:45 hours of ride time and 2:15 of stop time. But that's also counting riding to the event and hanging out before it actually started. My average was about 15mph. Climbing is my weakness so I try to make up by keeping 17~18 on flat I also rode with a fairly casual group and they waited a lot for a few riders that were lagging behind.
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Nice job. Sore hamstrings are often an indicator of a bike fit issue, with the saddle either a bit too high or a bit too far back. I'd really recommend getting a good fitter to make any adjustments especially if you are going to keep stretching out the distances you are riding. If you insist on changing it yourself, do it in very small increments (1/4") and mark your starting point with a marker or electricians tape so you can return to the original position if it's not an improvement. The fact that you did a 60+ mile ride with only minor discomfort is an indicator that your fit is probably pretty close.

When climbing, I like to change my position from time to time. Climbing will exasperate any issue with your back/glutes/hamstrings, so if you feel that happening try scooting up on the saddle a bit. This will put more pressure on your quads and may give you a chance to recover without needing to stop.

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Congrats on the Metric!! i did my first one last fall. I am still yearning for the first full century.
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Seve, I see you are riding a Cervelo RS. Do you feel the RS made a difference in climbing hills compare to other bikes?
I can only compare it to my other bike at the current time. So it may not be a fair comparison.

The gearing is different, compact double (50/34) 12-27/25 cassette on the Cervelo and a triple (52/42/30) 11-32 cassette on my Rocky Mountain.

Nothing scientific, but the Cervelo is easier and quicker to get up to speed. It is also easier to maintain that pace over the same roads with similar conditions. As well, it is much more responsive, meaning that it seems that no pedalling energy/effort is wasted, if that makes any sense?

So yes, it seems to translate to hills as well, at least for me.
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The gearing is different, compact double (50/34) 12-27/25 cassette on the Cervelo and a triple (52/42/30) 11-32 cassette on my Rocky Mountain.

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thanks Seve,

I am looking to reward myself with a cervelo after I reach my weight lost goal. But, I am currently riding a Bianchi with a triple. I often had to use the granny gear on climbing. and Cervelo runs on compact double, I am afraid that I will run out of small gear to climb when riding a double compact crankset.
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Nice job. Sore hamstrings are often an indicator of a bike fit issue, with the saddle either a bit too high or a bit too far back. I'd really recommend getting a good fitter to make any adjustments especially if you are going to keep stretching out the distances you are riding. If you insist on changing it yourself, do it in very small increments (1/4") and mark your starting point with a marker or electricians tape so you can return to the original position if it's not an improvement. The fact that you did a 60+ mile ride with only minor discomfort is an indicator that your fit is probably pretty close.

When climbing, I like to change my position from time to time. Climbing will exasperate any issue with your back/glutes/hamstrings, so if you feel that happening try scooting up on the saddle a bit. This will put more pressure on your quads and may give you a chance to recover without needing to stop.

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I had a shop fit it previously. I will try switching my position more. I really need to remember to shift earlier and just spin rather than trying to muscle up the hill.
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Congrats on the Metric!! i did my first one last fall. I am still yearning for the first full century.
Thanks! I'm hoping to do one soon myself as well

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The gearing is different, compact double (50/34) 12-27/25 cassette on the Cervelo and a triple (52/42/30) 11-32 cassette on my Rocky Mountain.

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thanks Seve,

I am looking to reward myself with a cervelo after I reach my weight lost goal. But, I am currently riding a Bianchi with a triple. I often had to use the granny gear on climbing. and Cervelo runs on compact double, I am afraid that I will run out of small gear to climb when riding a double compact crankset.[/QUOTE]
I yearn for the day that I can reward myself with a Cervelo. Hahaha
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