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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 06-08-11, 12:30 PM   #1
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Now what???

So this year has been good so far. Iíve done two 5Ks (one on my own, the other ďpacingĒ with/by my 10 year old son) and I just finished a century on Sunday.

Looking ahead I have nothing scheduled, in terms of events, until September, when Iím doing the Warrior Dash.

Iím kind of at a loss for what to do now.

I started riding seriously in January 2010 and lost around 30 pounds, putting my weight at 270. I carry it well really, and I donít look as heavy as I am. But Iíve been at this plateau for at least 6 months now. Sometimes I feel like Iím sort of an imposter Clyde, because while Iím a big guy, Iím probably in some of the best shape of my life.

Later last year I started running to augment my cycling in the hopes that it would kick start my metabolism and Iíd start shedding more pounds again. Iíd love to be in the 220 range by the end of fall. But it hasnít.

Thatís likely due in part to knowing my body, and knowing how much I can eat and ďget away withĒ without gaining any weight, as long as Iím riding/running.

But Iím at a crossroads I feel like.

It pains me to say I enjoy running Ö not as much as cycling, but I enjoy it. I like the ďcompactĒ timeframe a run can be done in compared to a similar workout on the bike. Iíve done a 5K, and would love to target a 10K at some point, and maybe even beyond (a half marathon or a marathon).

But Iíd also like to take my cycling to the next level too, though Iím not sure what that means. I can do endurance (the century) but would love to really get fit and learn to ride better, faster, longer (maybe racing?). Maybe I need to ratchet up my training a little Ö doing some speed work, hills (though theyíre hard to come by here in Illinois), intervals.

I donít know Ö any thoughts? Anyone in a similar situation? Anyone feel like a Clyde imposter?
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Old 06-08-11, 12:51 PM   #2
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I'm a year round commuter so I use my bike for transportation and not for any set distance or time. Maybe you could look into that. Another thing to consider is maybe Mountain biking. Basically there is nothing wrong with variety if you enjoy it.

Tom Stormcrowe had a google map of where riders were located. Maybe you could look into that to see if there is someone who wants a riding buddy.
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yeah ... thought about commuting, but until I'm done coaching t-ball later this month, that's not really feasible just yet.

As for MTB ... I have one, but it needs a major overhaul or a replacement (ideally) .... and I can't afford a replacement just yet.

thought about riding with my local club, but it's hard to fit into my schedule.
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yeah ... thought about commuting, but until I'm done coaching t-ball later this month, that's not really feasible just yet.

As for MTB ... I have one, but it needs a major overhaul or a replacement (ideally) .... and I can't afford a replacement just yet.

thought about riding with my local club, but it's hard to fit into my schedule.
The great thing about commuting is all you need is a destination and willingness. I have some cheap flashlights for headlights, and wear every day clothes from a winter jacket to sleeveless t-shirts depending on the weather.

For your MTB, just see what needs to be done. Maybe you can do some of the wrenching yourself, or learn how to do it. One of the projects that keeps me busy is trying to get my old rigid MTB up and running from scavenged parts.
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Old 06-08-11, 01:22 PM   #5
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Can you find any 5k/XXk races, where you run and then bike?

When I drop 15lbs I'm going to bring running (trotting, actually) back into my exercise life. Not sure how I'll mix it in but I'll do both to keep each other fresh.
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yeah ... there's a few duathlons around ... so maybe that's what I'll aim for.

Like I said, I like doing both ... though it pains me to say
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The plateau is common. I lost some weight initially when I started commuting and have actually gained some back. I had hoped for more weight loss from the 3500-ish miles per year I've been racking up the last two years, but alas...

I carry my weight better than I used to and generally feel like I'm in better shape than I have ever been except for during tennis seasons in high school when I practiced 2-3 hrs a day and weighed 50+ pounds less. I'm certainly no clyde imposter, though. I'm very squarely in the clyde camp.
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Old 06-08-11, 06:11 PM   #8
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Start eating better.

I know it sucks that we can't out ride/run/train/whatever a bad diet but the truth is the time investment to out train a bad diet is beyond most people.
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Maybe try to do a century in less time. Pick a hard target.

I'm going to do my first century later this year and I expect to take around 9 hours (i'm slow)
My target for NEXT year is to do it in 5 hours, though a 20mph average on a trike will be difficult, I may need to ammend that goal.

I also want to get back into mountain climbing. though I see you're from IL, so I dont think you have many options on that front.

Maybe get into swimming and work you way towards a triathalon.

Or, since you do (enjoy?) coaching, maybe go to the high school and see about starting a cycling team/club. I'm sure the HS kids can keep you pushing your limits.
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Start eating better.

I know it sucks that we can't out ride/run/train/whatever a bad diet but the truth is the time investment to out train a bad diet is beyond most people.
I'll even go so far as to say that after a certain point you have to choose between weightloss and improving fitness. I lost strength going from 275 to 215. It's taken 3 months at a constant weight to get back to where I was. Would I do it this way again? Absolutely.
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I'll even go so far as to say that after a certain point you have to choose between weightloss and improving fitness. I lost strength going from 275 to 215. It's taken 3 months at a constant weight to get back to where I was. Would I do it this way again? Absolutely.
I haven't had that problem, as I've never been strong.

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I'll even go so far as to say that after a certain point you have to choose between weightloss and improving fitness. I lost strength going from 275 to 215. It's taken 3 months at a constant weight to get back to where I was. Would I do it this way again? Absolutely.
That's a HUGE concern for me ...
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its all in the eating correctly!
you can train like a mad man but if you eat bad its all a wash. unless your training for the Olympics you cant out train bad eating habits.
I would lift 4 days a week and run 3 days a week and play bball 2 days week but i ate like shyte. so fat loss was not happening muscles got bigger yes, my overall fitness level was good and i was darn strong, but because i didnt eat correctly fat loss was minimal. when you reach 27 outtraining eating bad food doesnt work anymore.

for changing it up, try swimming all the benefits of exercise and none of the sore joints the have the mini triathlon out by you in mchenry county. I had a cousin who did it two years ago. there are 5k's races all over our area and i think 2 half marathons coming up. also try joining a sport team or even a coed league. I found dodgeball has become a trendy craze lately, but its fun.
I think if you train for a race or join a league it gives you a goal to strive for on those days you want to order in a pizza and watch two movies in a row

also who needs hills in Illinois when you have constant 25mph wind gusts
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It's not that I eat bad ... honestly. And I guess that's the maddening thing.

I typically track my calories in/out, and I operate on a deficit most days, especially the days I ride or run.

Maybe the deficit isn't great enough.
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I haven't had that problem, as I've never been strong.

When you're as slow as I am, you'd better be strong.
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Tri's sound like a good idea.
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I think they have a point. Take a good hard look at your diet. Even though your calorie deficit might be in the right place, I don't think all calories are created equal! Avoid red meats when you can and try to cut back on the carbs: breads, pastas, ect. Eat more fish, veggies, ect. I know most fruits are delicious (green apples are my weakness) but they do have a powerful amount of calories and sugar in them. Maybe look at running a little bit of a larger deficit too. At the moment, I have a calculated MBR of about 1900 calories. When the riding I do in the morning and evenings (~850 calories) and moderate push ups and sit-ups (maybe 100 calories?) I build a well of about 1000 calories lets say. I take in around 1600 from my meals, and that leaves a deficit from the MBR of about 1900 - (1600 - 1000) = 1900 - 600 = 1300 calories. Before you guys start harping on "this is two low" let me explain a little more. I was eating garbage, mostly all the time. Fast food, candy, soda, what ever. Now, (I'm going to post some pics of my chef skills!), it's mostly veggies and fish, or small pasta servings, and no snacks. Plus, I've started taking a vitamin regimen to make sure I'm getting everything I need.

The defecit above seems about right. I've been losing a steady 1/2 of a pound per day for the last few weeks. I'm sure it will not continue this way; we all know if comes off in loads at the beginning. However, I do feel better. I was a little weak in the beginning, but now, even after only a short time I feel like my riding stamina is growing bigger day by day.

Keep up the good work! I bet t-ball is an awesome sport to coach.

PS> If you want to calculate your MBR I found a site that is fairly easy to use. Just put in your age, weight, height, and sex and it spits it out for you. It seems to agree with many of the other websites I've checked it against, but it has less clutter. Give it a try:

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

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Well since we have a shortage of true hills here in IL, it dawned on me the other day ... what's a good substitute?

Intervals.

Did my first interval ride on Friday after work ... 11 miles, did two "pyramids". Intense riding for 20 seconds, then 30, then 40, then 30, then 20 with recovery periods of 40, 30 and 20 seconds respectively.

I think I'll keep doing these, and long rides on the weekends, while adjusting my diet accordingly, and see what happens. Thanks for all the input
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