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Old 06-09-11, 08:41 PM   #1
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Thurs Climb with A New Cycling Clyde........ vid and pics

6/9......Found out my neighbor likes cycling. Not as involved as most of us yet. More into riding to the gym type of rider. Big dude, about 6'3 and 250 (?). He had asked about our cycling after seeing us unloading the bikes. So he asked to go sometime towards Baldy. Not so sure he realized what he had gotten himself into and I tried to explain. So we make a date for a ride and off we go!

The plan was 8 miles to the shack on GMR (2200 ft gain). After the first mile he looked as if he was about to call it a day. I used some of the Mr. Beanz sugar coating of the ride. Relax, the first 2 is the toughest. He fell for it! Just kidding. IMO, it is the toughest. I tried to calm him down and slow down his pace and effort. Relax dude, we aren't racing! Our goal is to make the climb but if you can't, I have no problem heading down. But when we get back down, you'll immediately get the "I could have done more" feelings. That one gets 'em every time.

Well he was able to think it over and relax. I'm really expecting him to call it quits after 2 miles but he preses on. The more he rides, the more relaxed he looks. at 4 miles, I'm thinking there's a chance he's going all the way. Well, the talking to himself sort of suggested he was determined. "You can do this! You can do this!" he repeats to himself. Well at 6 miles, he's not looking real good but he continues to press on. 7 miles, he's not smiling anymore.

But the last stretch to the shack, he's raising his arm in victory. Just as I'm prepared to stop, he say she's going a little more! We roll up to the rock wall above the shack and the dude is all smiles. He did it! Holy smokes, on an MTB with knobbies! Cool Beanz! It's always nice to be part of encouraging a rider or new rider to do a little more than he thought possible. Not only did he conquer GMR, but he's got plans to return! HIllbasher showed up a bit late after a night of work, but he too was up on the mountain after a long 62 miler up to Cajon Pass on Wednesday.

When we first made the date to ride up GMR, he said to me,"I may not be at your level of riding, but I ain't no SISSY!" I guess he ain't ha ha!











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I wish I had something like that nearby that I could train on - looks like it could be fun.
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That looks like an awesome ride, nothing like that near me, very cool. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks guys! Yes, it's an awesome ride. Plus this is only an 8 mile seciton of miles and miles of local mtn riding.
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This is probably my favorite Beanz post so far...you can tell that guy is hooked!

My only complaint....he said he was dying, but he was still in the able-to-talk zone! You gotta get him panting like a dog, beanz!
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This is probably my favorite Beanz post so far...you can tell that guy is hooked!

My only complaint....he said he was dying, but he was still in the able-to-talk zone! You gotta get him panting like a dog, beanz!
Believe me , he was! Most of the talking was right after a restart. After one mile, he was hunched over is bike and ready to call it quits. In the vid, a couple riders go by and I let them know this was his first time up. Rider responded (video section where they talk about fun). I mentioned it to a couple others and he sort of said something that gave me the impression that he was self consious about the oredeal. So at that point, I figured I better not record the sufferfest sections in order to avoiding causing him embarrassment. I figure his family will be watching and didn't want to make him look bad for his fans. We like the sufferfest side but I'm thinking he woud take it a little wrong as a newbie.

But yeah, there were times I was talking to him and he wouldn't or couldn't respond. Learning from Gina climbing experiences, when they hit that point, you back off on the talking or they throw watter bottles at ya!

When he gets a little more used to riding and knowing that suffering is part of the game, then it's on Babay!!!!
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Most of the talking was right after a restart. After one mile, he was hunched over is bike and ready to call it quits. In the vid, a couple riders go by and I let them know this was his first time up. Rider responded (video section where they talk about fun). I mentioned it to a couple others and he sort of said something that gave me the impression that he was self consious about the oredeal. So at that point, I figured I better not record the sufferfest sections in order to avoiding causing him embarrassment. I figure his family will be watching and didn't want to make him look bad for his fans. We like the sufferfest side but I'm thinking he woud take it a little wrong as a newbie.

But yeah, there were times I was talking to him and he wouldn't or couldn't respond. Learning from Gina climbing experiences, when they hit that point, you back off on the talking or they throw watter bottles at ya!

When he gets a little more used to riding and knowing that suffering is part of the game, then it's on Babay!!!!
Introduce him to my best sufferfest videos. That might help with the self-conscious problem, especially after a few rides.

Of course, as long as people with egos the size of Texas exist *coughcoughahemroadcyclingsubforumcoughcough*, I can understand why people continue to be self-conscious about suffering. I posted my single-speed climb video in two appropriate threads in the road forum. No responses. Typical.

I wonder if I would get responses if I was a man? Maybe it's time to make a slideshow vid with pictures of stuck-up roadies and "Macho Man" by The Village People as a soundtrack.
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I can understand why people continue to be self-conscious about suffering.
In this case, I think it's more that the guy is fairly new to cycling. Before the ride he said, "I ain't no sissy". After the first mile, he pulled over and said, "I don't think I can do it, maybe I am a sissy after all".

So I encouraged him up without looking to embarrass the guy. Really had nothing to do with not wanting others to see you suffer. I think he would have thought I was trying to humiliate him if I had kept the recorder on him at this point and humiliation is not motivating when you have doubts of "making it". At this point, it was more about keeping him calm and relaxed when he reached the panic stages of "I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT!".

BTW, like I tell most riders that haven't completed the climb, they can do it if they don't panic. Most do then turn back before they give their bodies a chance to relax and work into the climb. This guy was 4 miles up then started smiling again after swearing at mile 1 that he was done!
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Suffering basically IS the game! I love the suffering! Whenever I go on 10-15 mile rides to the easy forest preserve near me with friends, I am always courteous and lead the group, stay close to my friends, and make sure everyone is having fun. I almost never start breathing heavy, though! I finish the ride feeling like I could've done so much more and I feel sort of unsatisfied. After we've all split ways, THEN I'll go pound the pavement as long as I can.

I think your neighbor definitely got that sense of accomplishment when he pushed himself a little farther after reaching the top. My favorite moment was your shot of him flying by on the way back down and the WOOOOOHOOOOOO! Those are the kinds of moments that keep a dude riding.

Good on you getting your neighbor in on the fun, beanz! Keep it up!
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I think your neighbor definitely got that sense of accomplishment when he pushed himself a little farther after reaching the top.
yeah, I was shocked but totally see that it was his way of saying, I conquered it....and more!".


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Yeah! I got a little bit ahead on the descent on a short 1/4 climb which is usually a point where I'll try to get ahead for a vid of the riders descending. I could hear him coming from above as he was making a roaring noise like a semi flying downhill. Listen closely, you can hear it as the video blends at will. As soon as the scene opens, you can hear him making the sound "RRRRRoooooaaarrrrrrr!". He looked like a happy rig!
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In this case, I think it's more that the guy is fairly new to cycling. Before the ride he said, "I ain't no sissy". After the first mile, he pulled over and said, "I don't think I can do it, maybe I am a sissy after all".

So I encouraged him up without looking to embarrass the guy. Really had nothing to do with not wanting others to see you suffer. I think he would have thought I was trying to humiliate him if I had kept the recorder on him at this point and humiliation is not motivating when you have doubts of "making it". At this point, it was more about keeping him calm and relaxed when he reached the panic stages of "I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT!".

BTW, like I tell most riders that haven't completed the climb, they can do it if they don't panic. Most do then turn back before they give their bodies a chance to relax and work into the climb. This guy was 4 miles up then started smiling again after swearing at mile 1 that he was done!
Ah, ok.

In the SoCal forum I read about a possible GMR forum ride. Might be a good opportunity to rent a car (keep the miles off my truck) and take the new Dahon Speed D7 up its first real climb. Problem is, it would probably involve a hotel stay as I don't know anyone down there. I've also never been to that part of CA, so it would be interesting finding my way around.
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Ah, ok.

In the SoCal forum I read about a possible GMR forum ride. Might be a good opportunity to rent a car (keep the miles off my truck) and take the new Dahon Speed D7 up its first real climb. Problem is, it would probably involve a hotel stay as I don't know anyone down there. I've also never been to that part of CA, so it would be interesting finding my way around.

If they do a forum ride, it will be a 21 mile climb. I'm not so sure you'd want to do this ride on the foldng bike.
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If they do a forum ride, it will be a 21 mile climb. I'm not so sure you'd want to do this ride on the foldng bike.
Wow! Nevermind then. I wouldn't want to do a 21 mile climb on any bike, especially after the miserable experience I had last year climbing Mt. Rose from the Reno side (14 miles). That was the worst suffering I have ever done on a bike. 185 pounds, 32 pound mountain bike, and not enough fuel in my body:

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The bike I'm riding still has the knobby Mt Bike tires on it, and I swear it must sound like a dinner bell to dogs! They can probably hear me coming a 1/2 mile away
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The bike I'm riding still has the knobby Mt Bike tires on it, and I swear it must sound like a dinner bell to dogs! They can probably hear me coming a 1/2 mile away


My heavy breathing on climbs probably makes me sound like a dying prey animal to dogs. Check out the dog at 4:52 in my video from last weekend's climb. He wasn't there when I descended that hill. Luckily he only barked a little, then proceeded to trot alongside me until I reached the top of the hill.

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The bike I'm riding still has the knobby Mt Bike tires on it, and I swear it must sound like a dinner bell to dogs! They can probably hear me coming a 1/2 mile away

I also used knobbies on this ride, my MTB with full knobs. I caught some of the hum on the descent but didn't include it in the vid cause it was too short for the video blending of the scenes and got covered up.

But this is the very short clip.


I rarely ride my knobber jobbers on the pavement but since it's the only type of bike my neighbor had, I went with the knobs. Mostly, I only use my MTB in the dirt.

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Wow! Nevermind then. I wouldn't want to do a 21 mile climb on any bike, especially after the miserable experience I had last year climbing Mt. Rose from the Reno side (14 miles). That was the worst suffering I have ever done on a bike. 185 pounds, 32 pound mountain bike, and not enough fuel in my body:

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Oh C'mon, it will make for some great suffering sounds and excellent video. Not only heavy breathing but video coverage of some serious SHHHWEAT! If you go, I will follow you every inch of the ride and do a "best of heavy breathing" video.
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I also used knobbies on this ride, my MTB with full knobs. I caught some of the hum on the descent but didn't include it in the vid cause it was too short for the video blending of the scenes and got covered up.

But this is the very short clip.

I rarely ride my knobber jobbers on the pavement but since it's the only type of bike my neighbor had, I went with the knobs. Mostly, I only use my MTB in the dirt.
That sounded like a motorcycle!

Maybe I should ride my mtb or hybrid when I ride with my friend who can't keep up with me on climbs. Might even things up and give me an even better workout. I plan on trying to fix that ominous-sounding clunk I get on my mtb when I hit the front brake. I hope it's just bearings and not a crack somewhere.

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Oh C'mon, it will make for some great suffering sounds and excellent video. Not only heavy breathing but video coverage of some serious SHHHWEAT! If you go, I will follow you every inch of the ride and do a "best of heavy breathing" video.


I would love that! I still think the folding bike would do it just fine. Don't forget, I climbed Kingsbury Grade with my 1988 5-speed Dahon StowAway 16" wheel steel-rimmed bike back in 1992. It climbed just fine and I didn't even suffer.

I still kick myself for selling that bike. I bought it brand-new at Target back in '88 or '89. Try finding a decent folding bike at any big-box store nowadays.
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Yeah! I swear, I looked back cause I thought there was a Harley behind us. I wanted to record longer but we were approaching a turn and I don't have much practice descending one hand MTB on pavement. Knobbies are much softer and don't corner like road tires.


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I had a similar noise on my roadie. Loose headset. Apply front brake with left hand, apply pressure right hand on saddle to make sure bike does not roll or slide. Rock bike for and aft, easy to feel play and knocking in headset with this method. That's if you haven't checked it already.
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I had a similar noise on my roadie. Loose headset. Apply front brake with left hand, apply pressure right hand on saddle to make sure bike does not roll or slide. Rock bike for and aft, easy to feel play and knocking in headset with this method. That's if you haven't checked it already.
Checked that already. I wish it was something that simple, but unfortunately it's not in this case.
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