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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
    Both were strong but inexperienced riders. Both weighed barely 120 lbs. So as we "fluffy" folks know, no matter how hard we pushed, we can't climb as fast as skinny people - pure physics - can't be done.

    I don't believe it! Serious roadracing climbers, but because a rider is lighter, nope! It can be done with proper training!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro56 View Post
    Some really good points in the posts above. I'd like to add something for you to think about. Are you doing this for you or for them?
    Both. I know I'm supposed to say I'm doing it for myself and I mostly am, but part of what I'm doing (and is getting the "isn't that CUTE!?" remarks) is training for a triathlon with Team In Training (we raise money for The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society). They seem to think the idea that a woman who is pushing 270 lbs and has a history of not following through is just silly.

    So while I'm doing this for me 99% of the time, I also really, really want to prove them wrong.
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    And there is nothing wrong with that!

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    I still get some nasty things yelled at me, but less than when I started. I think part of that is because it's obvious that I know what I'm doing now, at least a little, where before... not so much. Also, from the back my Clydehood isn't quite so obvious any more.

    My friends and neighbors started to take notice after I dropped the first 50 lbs or so, but many people didn't notice even then. I'm off on vacation next week and will see a bunch of folks who haven't seen me in 6-12 months -- we'll see how that goes.

    About a month ago I was riding on a busy country road, no shoulder. There's a very short -- not even 100 yards -- hill that comes out of nowhere and quickly gets up to 8-9%. I always try to let people pass me before I get to it as there's no way they can pass me on it -- you can't see the oncoming traffic over the top of it. No dice this day. The car following me has to wait as I get my far arse up out of the saddle and climb. Once you get over the hill there's a curve, and then a good straight stretch where you can see the oncoming traffic and pass. The car speeds up to go around me and I hear the window roll down. "Great," I think to myself. "Another witty comment about getting my fat behind off the road." I'm all ready to flip the dude off when I see it's the mailman -- he's leaning out the window and giving me a big thumbs up.

    Of course, a couple weeks later I was in the same neighborhood and apparently quite amusing to a bunch of kids waiting at a bus stop. So it balances out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
    Nobody yells that at me. I feel left out.
    I've seen the video. Would it help if I yelled it at the computer screen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamestique View Post
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    Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."

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    They still don't. But that's their problem, not mine.

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    A couple of people laughed at me, but after I ran them over with my bike they weren't laughing anymore. Seriously, though, you have to keep in in perspective. You ride, because you want to ride. It doesn't matter what people think about you while you ride. The only people who should be worried about what they look like or what other people think about them when they ride are professional riders. They can't make a living if they don't look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro56 View Post
    Some really good points in the posts above. I'd like to add something for you to think about. Are you doing this for you or for them?
    When I got started, some people made smart ass comments because I believe THEY thought I'd never see it through. When I did, they treated me rudely; almost as though they were pissed because I had succeeded. Granted, that was only a small handful of people, and NOT the ones I'd call "friends." In the end, Jethro is right. Who are you doing this for?
    "Obstacles don't like me very much. I make them look bad."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I don't believe it! Serious roadracing climbers, but because a rider is lighter, nope! It can be done with proper training!
    True story. What pulls more weight - an 18 wheeler or a Fiat? I rest my case. The engine can make ALL the difference.
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    I have no idea, I don't ride my bike to lose weight (that would be ridiculous) - that's what my diet is for. I ride my bike to ride a bike, feel the wind in my hair and enjoy getting around town a lot more than I do driving my car. Having calves the size of my (big, big) head is a fringe benefit.

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    My husband is my biggest cheerleader. Actually, he can be a bit of a bully at times... bless him. My dad is right behind him with my SIL a close third. The only bad comments I've had are from vicious-natured teen boys in packs showing out for each other as they yell insults to the fat, gray-haired old woman cycling past. My driving instructor politely asks how much I've ridden as we walk to the car. When I tell him, 'Oh, only 80 km or so this week'. He'll ask what my longest was and if it was 'only 30 km', he shakes his head and admits if he tried to ride that far, it would kill him.

    Other than that, I get waves, smiles and thumbs up even from a lot of the hard core cyclists. Nothing like riding in the opposite direction of a large bike race and getting endless encouragement from the participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnA42 View Post
    I still get some nasty things yelled at me, but less than when I started.

    Speak of the devil... just yesterday an a**hole in a pickup screamed "FAT ASS" and threw a beer can at me. The idiot missed, but I was seriously disheartened for a while last night.

    I seriously just don't understand what possesses people in this country to think it's alright to verbally abuse and attempt to assault someone who is trying to improve their life. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayre Kulp View Post
    True story. What pulls more weight - an 18 wheeler or a Fiat? I rest my case. The engine can make ALL the difference.
    Not sure that's an apt comparison. The Fiat *doesn't have* to carry the weight. Now which one can get up the hill faster? The 18 wheeler with a load, or the fiat with no load?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir View Post
    Speak of the devil... just yesterday an a**hole in a pickup screamed "FAT ASS" and threw a beer can at me. The idiot missed, but I was seriously disheartened for a while last night.

    I seriously just don't understand what possesses people in this country to think it's alright to verbally abuse and attempt to assault someone who is trying to improve their life. Sigh.
    I am by no means prone to physical violence -- the last time I was in a fight was in the 8th grade, way back in the 70s -- but I fear what I might do if someone did that to me. I know I'd try to catch him and give him a piece of my mind. I'd probably fail, which would certainly be for the best...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayre Kulp View Post
    True story. What pulls more weight - an 18 wheeler or a Fiat? I rest my case. The engine can make ALL the difference.
    Some problems with that analogy:

    1) Who wins in an uphill race? I'm betting on the Fiat.

    2) You can only train your engine so far. 500 watts is about as far as anyone can get, sustained, and then you're limited by weight.

    I'm not saying that Clydes can't climb -- there are plenty of mountain goats on this forum (Hi, Beanz!) who would put the lie to that -- but you're never going to climb like one of those little Fiats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I don't believe it! Serious roadracing climbers, but because a rider is lighter, nope! It can be done with proper training!
    Its physics Beanz... if I have the same skill set/training as someone but I am 200 lbs and they are 100 lbs, they will climb faster. I am a fairly strong climber and of course, can beat some people up hills but with my friends and their abilities, it's almost impossible to hang. Basically I would have to train incredibly hard... and lose 100 lbs to acheive the same results.
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    Tri-team? You ARE serious! and for a great cause. FWIW, I'm over here taking you very seriously. Let me know if you can take pledges via Paypal from strangers on the Internet.

    I also really, really want to prove them wrong.
    That is an awesome motivator. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfinch View Post
    Love it! I'm using that line.
    My response to that would be "Ok, now's good".......

    On a more serious note, people hate to see others succeed. That's why a neighbor would bring over cookies, that's why some will laugh at you - misery loves company.

    And Beanz, your bike friends are right; just stick with it and maybe soon you'll be able to ride 25 miles.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalia View Post
    Tri-team? You ARE serious! and for a great cause. FWIW, I'm over here taking you very seriously. Let me know if you can take pledges via Paypal from strangers on the Internet.



    That is an awesome motivator. ;-)
    It IS! My boss (that I love and consider a great woman) is one of the ones who isn't being rude but does seem sort of amused by the whole thing. She's not smug...but she's 120 lbs (after two kids). She's one of those people who brings in articles from magazines about how people lost half their weight. She means REALLY well but I do sometimes get offended at the idea that I couldn't possibly be happy if I'm fat.

    Then again, she took her girls swimming last weekend. She (who was on swim team in high school some 30 years ago) could barely do 50m. I do 800m, some drills, and then another 800m. I think that sort of showed her I'm not kidding.

    I do have a donation page (located here) but they don't take Paypal - just Visa/MC/etc. If that doesn't work for you but you'd like to donate, let me know via PM and we'll work something out.

    Also - all of you are awesome. This thread has made me feel like I'm not alone and I can know I'm sticking with this and that can be enough - no one else has to believe me (though it's wonderful you guys do).

    Now I'm off to "shop" for the bike I'm buying myself for my 30th birthday in September. I love the 20 year old mountain bike a co-worker loaned me for a few months but...I'm thinking a hybrid that weighs less than 3435343 pounds would be good.
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    I just got weird looks when I first started...then I got "wow you have a lot of endurance for how you look" ..(?) and now I'm getting "hey, the bike has been really good for you" "you look more in shape" so it gets better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir View Post
    Speak of the devil... just yesterday an a**hole in a pickup screamed "FAT ASS" and threw a beer can at me. The idiot missed, but I was seriously disheartened for a while last night.

    I seriously just don't understand what possesses people in this country to think it's alright to verbally abuse and attempt to assault someone who is trying to improve their life. Sigh.
    I honestly couldn't care what other people yell. However, if they throw things at me that's a different story. I'd make a mental note of the vehicle, as much of the licenses plate as I could get and immediately pull over and call the police.

    And I've been waiting for a perfect scenario (credit to Winston Churchill for the idea) - person in car yells "hey fat ass" at me as I ride, I catch up to them at the next stop light or stop sign, I yell "I'm losing weight and getting in shape, you'll be stupid for life." *sigh* So far I haven't even gotten yelled at.

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    I'm probably not truly a clyde, (on the outside), but I do have fairly good support. It's more along the lines of people saying "Oh, he is riding a bike.", and that is about as far a their concern goes. My wife rides with me about 30% of my distance on average, and thats always fun. I thought I had her support 100% until I showed her the cost of even entry level road bikes . I feel that it's probably slipped now to about 80%..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
    Nobody yells that at me. I feel left out.
    I'll have you know that when I was in high school (and skinny) somebody yelled that at me once, and now that I"m 6'2" and not as skinny.... er, nowhere near (240) and I got it again I have to think I must really have a nice ass. LOL

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