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    Video & pics of steep climb from one of my most difficult rides ever

    Did one of the most difficult rides I have ever done. It was only 41 miles, but it had 5,472 feet of climbing. I climbed Mosquito Road in Placerville from Broadway to Rock Creek Road, then took Rock Creek Road to Chili Bar, where I turned around. The climb back up Rock Creek Road seemed to go on forever, but finally it ended and I got to enjoy a fun descent down Mosquito to the river and back out of the canyon. Good steep fun! Yes, I mean the climbing.

    I also ended up with my second A & S type of video. A silver Toyota Tacoma, CA license 8S64255, passed while I was climbing back up Mosquito Road to Placerville. Somebody in the truck yelled "Get off the road!" This is in spite of me being on the right side of the road, out of the way.

    That same truck passed me at an unsafe speed on the climb up Mosquito to Rock Creek Road. That was also caught on camera on the sufferfest video. The yelling incident is a separate video.

    This is the first time I have had a problem with a driver in the Sierra foothills. If you ride in the Placerville area, watch out for this jackass!

    Luckily, the footage I got at the top of the climb back up Mosquito to Placerville made up for the BS. As I approached the top, two fawn ran across the road and jumped the fence. A car caught up to me at the stop sign. The two guys inside struck up a conversation when they saw the deer also. One of them asked me if I rode down to the river. When I told them that I did that and rode down Rock Creek to Chili Bar, they were impressed. You can see the deer going down the road in front of me on the video as I'm talking to the two guys.

    I told them they made up for the motorist who told me to get off the road earlier, and thanked them.

    Garmin Connect data: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/99662106

    Here's the climb up Mosquito Road, both directions starting from the bridge over the American River, which I rode across. The speeding Toyota Tacoma is visible starting at 3:06.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA7UZtcGVKE


    Here's the dumbass in the Tacoma yelling at me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqAng5CRsOM


    Here's the fawn and the friendly dudes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EcYseNbTSk


    Steep!


    Mosquito Road 15% grade sign by kittyz202, on Flickr

    Here's a picture of the first 18% switchback I saw during my descent from Placerville. I measured it on the climb back up by riding into the steepest part of the switchback, which I normally don't do a lot of on long climbs, in order to conserve energy.


    Mosquito Road 18% grade switchback by kittyz202, on Flickr

    Around the corner from that switchback.


    'yield to uphill traffic' sign on Mosquito Road by kittyz202, on Flickr

    Almost to the bottom.


    bottom of Mosquito Road climb by kittyz202, on Flickr

    American River


    American River at bottom of Mosquito Road climb 2 by kittyz202, on Flickr

    Nice steep switchback near the bottom of the descent from Rock Creek Road.


    Mosquito Road steep switchback by kittyz202, on Flickr

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    Great job on the climbs - beautiful countryside!

    As for the moron in the truck. I have had many similar incidents. 90% of the time they drive a truck, 100% of the time its a male and they ALWAYS speed away. Its an interesting case study. A definite pattern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magohn View Post
    Great job on the climbs - beautiful countryside!

    As for the moron in the truck. I have had many similar incidents. 90% of the time they drive a truck, 100% of the time its a male and they ALWAYS speed away. Its an interesting case study. A definite pattern.
    Thank you. Guess what else I noticed while editing the long version of the climb? There is a magnetic company sign on the side of the truck with a phone number on it. Unfortunately I can't read most of the sign, so I can't find out the company name and phone number, but the area code is legible-530.

    Here's another picture of the river.


    American River at bottom of Mosquito Road climb by kittyz202, on Flickr

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    You're a better (wo)man than I....
    I've taken Mosquito Road to the bottom via my motorcycles and thought the road dangerously narrow. But to do it under power of pedal on a bicycle, with little room (if any) to accelerate out of a situation.... well, I guess it's your choice. It's a beautiful road, and I might hafta take the Suzuki up there again soon.

    About your videos,
    either I have the attention span of a beagle, or I have no interest in listening to somebody huff & puff as the scenery/subject matter takes a few minutes to change. I tried filming my motorcycle rides, but they simply are not interesting UNLESS
    * I have another motorcycle in front of me for the viewer of the video to watch,
    * the scene changes often and fast,
    * edited to include a clip of the wheel spinning, levers being shifted into gear, the sides of the road rushing by,
    * point-of-view angles changing frequently,
    * some music laid over the occasional sound of my motorcycle engine,
    * and ANY number of other techniques used to hold the interest of the viewer.

    Why don't you spend some time taking footage of your wheels spinning, your legs pumping the pedals, shifting gears, an image of YOU on your bike ascending a steep hill, coasting down at high speed, seat on the saddle, hands on the handlebars, etc.
    - AND -
    buy some editing software to make of your long (and boring) footage, into an enjoyable 2 minute 45 second movie that tells a story by way of a variety of images.

    Hey, more power to ya.... but unless or until you can put something together to hold my short interest span, I'm not interested in ten minutes of huffing and puffing and the scenery rolling by at walking speed.......

    And yes, I hope someday to be in as good a shape as you to ascend steep hills.

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    Nicely done! I enjoyed the video and the scenery. I went on a 36 mile ride yesterday with several hillly areas but nothing like that.

    There is one steep hill near me that I just can't get up it I'm not sure what the grade is but it's friggin' steep. I've attempted twice...not only to my legs give out but my lungs are completely exhausted. Both attempts I've had to stop and I'm just gasping for air. One day I'm going to do it though. I've got my mind set on it!

    How long did it take you to build up the stamina to be able to climb that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandoneeRider View Post
    You're a better (wo)man than I....
    I've taken Mosquito Road to the bottom via my motorcycles and thought the road dangerously narrow. But to do it under power of pedal on a bicycle, with little room (if any) to accelerate out of a situation.... well, I guess it's your choice. It's a beautiful road, and I might hafta take the Suzuki up there again soon.

    About your videos,
    either I have the attention span of a beagle, or I have no interest in listening to somebody huff & puff as the scenery/subject matter takes a few minutes to change. I tried filming my motorcycle rides, but they simply are not interesting UNLESS
    * I have another motorcycle in front of me for the viewer of the video to watch,
    * the scene changes often and fast,
    * edited to include a clip of the wheel spinning, levers being shifted into gear, the sides of the road rushing by,
    * point-of-view angles changing frequently,
    * some music laid over the occasional sound of my motorcycle engine,
    * and ANY number of other techniques used to hold the interest of the viewer.

    Why don't you spend some time taking footage of your wheels spinning, your legs pumping the pedals, shifting gears, an image of YOU on your bike ascending a steep hill, coasting down at high speed, seat on the saddle, hands on the handlebars, etc.
    - AND -
    buy some editing software to make of your long (and boring) footage, into an enjoyable 2 minute 45 second movie that tells a story by way of a variety of images.

    Hey, more power to ya.... but unless or until you can put something together to hold my short interest span, I'm not interested in ten minutes of huffing and puffing and the scenery rolling by at walking speed.......

    And yes, I hope someday to be in as good a shape as you to ascend steep hills.
    I don't live in fear, so I'm not afraid to ride on a narrow road. I use a mirror and my eyes and ears to keep track of my surroundings.

    I personally despise videos that have music completely covering the original audio. Especially climbing videos. I like to show the effort and suffering involved in climbing a hill. Believe it or not, not everyone wants amateur videos to look like a slickly produced TV show. Plenty of people enjoy raw footage and also hate music covering up the original audio. The original audio is part of the story too. If I watched a motorcycle video I would want to hear the engine, not music.

    My videos tell the story of what it's like for me to climb these hills when I'm not a Lycra-clad, 6% body fat "super hero".

    Since I am busy trying to climb steep hills, I'd rather not have to take a hand off the bars and attempt to aim a hand-held camera at my legs or anywhere else. The handlebar mount allows me to concentrate on the task at hand, which is putting out a lot of effort on a climb.

    BTW, I don't have to buy editing software. Windows Movie Maker will do what you ask. I'm just not interested in catering to the TV crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitedreams View Post
    Nicely done! I enjoyed the video and the scenery. I went on a 36 mile ride yesterday with several hillly areas but nothing like that.

    There is one steep hill near me that I just can't get up it I'm not sure what the grade is but it's friggin' steep. I've attempted twice...not only to my legs give out but my lungs are completely exhausted. Both attempts I've had to stop and I'm just gasping for air. One day I'm going to do it though. I've got my mind set on it!

    How long did it take you to build up the stamina to be able to climb that?
    Thank you I started the weight loss process and climbing rides last May. I did some short steep stuff back in February on the video below, but didn't feel ready for the long steep stuff until last month.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sBed_mVaYo


    Here's the first long steep climb I did last month.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq9SmyAaVQ

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    Nice job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    I personally despise videos that have music completely covering the original audio.
    I agree I hate turning on some of these videos and and listening to the C(rap) people put on their videos. I often find myself hitting mute on many videos I watch. I'd much rather hear the huffing and puffing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitedreams View Post
    I agree I hate turning on some of these videos and and listening to the C(rap) people put on their videos. I often find myself hitting mute on many videos I watch. I'd much rather hear the huffing and puffing.
    +1,000! Thank you! I did a climb video up Lake Clementine Road in Auburn earlier this year. The other day I found someone else's climb video up the same road, but they covered it up with ear-splitting heavy metal music, which I muted immediately. I'd much rather hear the effort the guy was putting into the climb. Especially since the captions at the end indicated he was racing another rider up the climb.

    Here's my version of that climb.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFefozG63PU


    Here's his version. I really like the GPS telemetry display, but the story isn't complete without the original ride audio, IMHO.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CpvY22Tjms

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post

    Here's my version of that climb.

    Sent you a PM...

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    NIce climb ... that is one part of El Dorado County ... along with a few others ... where I would not ride without pepper spray and the Sheriff's dispatch number ready in my phone ... (530) 621 6600 ... it is just one of those areas where there are a portion of folks who don't get sharing the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalheart44 View Post
    NIce climb ... that is one part of El Dorado County ... along with a few others ... where I would not ride without pepper spray and the Sheriff's dispatch number ready in my phone ... (530) 621 6600 ... it is just one of those areas where there are a portion of folks who don't get sharing the road.
    That's a scary thought! With the exception of yesterday's incident, I have found El Dorado County to be one of the friendliest areas I've ever ridden in.

    Can you tell me the other areas I should be aware of? I will program that EDSO number in my phone. Thank you.

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    Beautiful Ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill.clyde View Post
    Nice job!
    Quote Originally Posted by funrover View Post
    Beautiful Ride!
    Thank you. In spite of the incident with the harassing motorist, it was still tons of fun!

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    Love the vids, thanks for sharing.

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    I don't mean to submit these in any attempt to engage in a video war, but one of the below videos might be an example of "raw footage", and the other as a result of spending time on an unfamiliar Mac in an attempt to make a more interesting video. The music doesn't have to be overpowering heavy metal, that shots don't have to require much effort or be a distraction from the job at hand. The videos are however, motorcycle related......
    If it's of any consolation though, the 'raw' footage is of a very popular road with bicyclists. It is of Del Puerto Canyon to 'The Junction'....., the other includes Hwy 49 up what we call the Mini Dragon to Mariposa. I have yet to see bicycles on this stretch, but it would be a GREAT stretch of road if you like ascend hills/MOUNTAINS with a beautiful overlook.
    --All that I'm suggesting is that you CAN make of your videos something more interesting to watch,
    though mine was one of a only a couple attempts to edit (I don't have a Mac).
    Raw:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGVyH..._order&list=UL
    Edited:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/RhysWms#p/u/10/XimJwMVkRuQ

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    Your link tells me the video can't be played on an iPhone.
    Anyways, I personally prefer the vids raw. If I want to see flashy videos I can go watch the tour de france riders. I want to see and hear riders who are at my skill level so I know I'm "not alone".....



    Quote Originally Posted by RandoneeRider View Post
    I don't mean to submit these in any attempt to engage in a video war, but one of the below videos might be an example of "raw footage", and the other as a result of spending time on an unfamiliar Mac in an attempt to make a more interesting video. The music doesn't have to be overpowering heavy metal, that shots don't have to require much effort or be a distraction from the job at hand. The videos are however, motorcycle related......
    If it's of any consolation though, the 'raw' footage is of a very popular road with bicyclists. It is of Del Puerto Canyon to 'The Junction'....., the other includes Hwy 49 up what we call the Mini Dragon to Mariposa. I have yet to see bicycles on this stretch, but it would be a GREAT stretch of road if you like ascend hills/MOUNTAINS with a beautiful overlook.
    --All that I'm suggesting is that you CAN make of your videos something more interesting to watch,
    though mine was one of a only a couple attempts to edit (I don't have a Mac).
    Raw:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGVyH..._order&list=UL
    Edited:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/RhysWms#p/u/10/XimJwMVkRuQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandoneeRider View Post
    I don't mean to submit these in any attempt to engage in a video war, but one of the below videos might be an example of "raw footage", and the other as a result of spending time on an unfamiliar Mac in an attempt to make a more interesting video. The music doesn't have to be overpowering heavy metal, that shots don't have to require much effort or be a distraction from the job at hand. The videos are however, motorcycle related......
    If it's of any consolation though, the 'raw' footage is of a very popular road with bicyclists. It is of Del Puerto Canyon to 'The Junction'....., the other includes Hwy 49 up what we call the Mini Dragon to Mariposa. I have yet to see bicycles on this stretch, but it would be a GREAT stretch of road if you like ascend hills/MOUNTAINS with a beautiful overlook.
    --All that I'm suggesting is that you CAN make of your videos something more interesting to watch,
    though mine was one of a only a couple attempts to edit (I don't have a Mac).
    Raw:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGVyH..._order&list=UL
    Edited:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/RhysWms#p/u/10/XimJwMVkRuQ
    I liked the raw footage better. The edited one is not my taste in music, and it felt odd watching a motorcycle video with unnaturally quiet or completely muted engine and shifting sounds.

    I have plenty of videos with captions in them like yours. Here's one with captions, and not as much "huffing and puffing" due to the climb not being as steep. There's also a conversation between me and other cyclists.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyKjhQc9Qbk


    EDIT: Removed deleted music video to avoid future copyright strike. 3 strikes and you're out according to YouTube, so I intend to keep a clean record.
    Last edited by freighttraininguphill; 01-27-12 at 05:34 AM. Reason: removed deleted video

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    Quote Originally Posted by magohn View Post
    Anyways, I personally prefer the vids raw. If I want to see flashy videos I can go watch the tour de france riders. I want to see and hear riders who are at my skill level so I know I'm "not alone".....
    +1. I like to see and hear what the rider was experiencing on the ride. I also enjoy the nature sounds and bike sounds like gear shifting.

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    I laughed at "that was a *****"

    also, you're inspiring me to invest in a bike camera of my own...now just what to get?

    keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by perspiration View Post
    I laughed at "that was a *****"

    also, you're inspiring me to invest in a bike camera of my own...now just what to get?

    keep it up!
    Believe me, I plan on it. The hill I have in mind for this weekend is gonna be a doozy! It may be harder than that Snows Road climb I did last month.

    The popular cameras seem to be the GoPro and the Contour. Both seem to have muffled or low audio though, and both have no display. I prefer a display, especially when setting up the camera. I don't want it aiming too high or low. I also like to keep track of my battery life so I can change the battery before it runs out. If it runs out during a recording it will corrupt the file.

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    When I replaced my 12 year old DELL with this ASUS, I bought Montage studio movieBox ULTIMATE editing software, with gizmos for recording my old VHS tapes, DVDs, etc. I haven't opened the box yet...... Any attempts to record on the motorcycle have not met with my expectations, as the wind noise is VERY problematic. When I mounted a MiniDV camera to my gas tank, I actually made a little fairing pakced with cheesecloth to protect the microphone from wind noise..... But that is waaay too big a camera to have mounted on the motorcycle. GoPro and Contour still haven't addressed the wind noise problem yet. I think I need to be able to use an external microphone to isolate it.

    Waaaay too much work editing a video, somebody will always hate your selection of music, and most would rather read a good book then sit through what you enjoyed while filming it.... kinda a 'hadda been there' thang. But I have the software, and someday a camera, and I'll give it a shot again... someday.

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    Well, for what it's worth, I didn't notice an excessive amount of wind noise on your raw motorcycle video. You got a couple thumbs-up on it too, so other people appreciated it as well.

    I've talked to people who enjoy motorsports and they have told me they prefer to hear the engine rather than music on videos.

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    1. I like listening to your heavy breathing, mostly cuz I never get calls like that.
    2. I'd stop by the sheriff's office w/ the video, the plate # and the fragment of company name and report the dude for reckless driving or whatever. The cops may not be able to charge him, but they can stop by the company office w/ the time & date details and tell them to that they should remind their employees to share the road or they'll wind up in prison being passed around for a pack of smokes.
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