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    More fun with a ContourHD helmet cam-this time a steep sufferfest

    My Contour was very well behaved during yesterday's climbfest. I climbed Jurgens and Luneman Roads in El Dorado County. Both roads meet at the bottom at a creek crossing. From what I've read about this ride, most riders have to take their shoes off and wade across. Since all I wanted to do was climb, not get my feet dirty, I chose to descend Jurgens and Luneman and climb back out.

    On the way to the first climb (Jurgens), my Kodak Playsport's tripod hole finally gave up the ghost and the camera flopped out of the mount. It was recording, of course. I chose to have a second camera recording as a back-up in case the Contour failed. It left a good sized chunk of plastic behind in the handlebar mount.

    Garmin Connect data: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/108467017

    Video of my Playsport falling off the mount.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ndu6GhxfSw


    Video from the ContourHD of the Jurgens/Luneman climbs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_NanMq4-xw


    Bottom of Jurgens Road


    Creek crossing from the Jurgens Road side


    Luneman Road steep switchback


    Piece from the Playsport that was left behind in the handlebar mount



    What the Playsport's tripod hole looks like now. Needless to say, this camera definitely isn't waterproof any more.


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    How do you mount the Contour HD to your helmet? I am considering getting one for my long rides but all the vented helmet mount reviews on amazon are terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir View Post
    How do you mount the Contour HD to your helmet? I am considering getting one for my long rides but all the vented helmet mount reviews on amazon are terrible.
    I'm using the Contour brand vented helmet mount purchased from REI. I did see the bad reviews on Amazon and was a bit concerned by that, but I don't think there's any other helmet mount available. So far it's held up fine. I do have to re-tighten the straps occasionally, otherwise you hear a knocking sound in the audio when the video is played back.

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    I have the Contour GPS and love it. I have one of the rail mounts stuck to the top of my helmet with the supplied adhesive pad and it works great. It was a little tricky to make sure it was at the right angle but it is accidentally perfect.

    I love the feature where I can sync it by bluetooth to my iPhone to set the view before recording.

    I ride some pretty rough fast trails and it has never indicated that it might fall off. I am getting ready to order an additional mount to get some lower profiles and frame and tire included video.
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    I'm glad you're not one of the ones having problems with the ContourGPS. I was reading their support forums and the Amazon reviews, and there are quite a few people having issues with it. More than the ContourHD 1080p, which is the model I have. I had some issues with mine too, but hopefully I've resolved them now.

    I bought the universal mount with a tripod socket, which allows you to mount the camera to anything with a standard 1/4" tripod screw. I also got the XL handlebar mount, but I haven't used that yet. The universal mount works great on the Pedco UltraClamp that I use to mount the Kodak Playsport on the handlebars.

    Speaking of the Playsport, I got another one a couple hours after finishing my ride on Sunday. A local eBayer had one for $79.95 Buy It Now, and my friend (with the eBay account) and I drove out and met the seller to pick it up in person.

    I look forward to seeing your videos with the new mounts. I loved the last one you did. With the mixture of music and ride audio, it was like a short film. Very well done!

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    Good job ... it has been awhile since I climbed Jurgens but I remember that first curve. Your climbing skills are admirable. You should have stopped by for a beer after your climb ... I live just off Luneman on Springvale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalheart44 View Post
    Good job ... it has been awhile since I climbed Jurgens but I remember that first curve. Your climbing skills are admirable. You should have stopped by for a beer after your climb ... I live just off Luneman on Springvale.
    Thank you. This was my first time climbing Jurgens/Luneman, and it was nice and peaceful, unlike that Mosquito Road climb where that moron in the silver Toyota Tacoma yelled at me to get off the road. Last weekend's ride (and the one the week before on Starkes Grade Road) was perfect, with considerate motorists and friendly cyclists. This is the El Dorado County I know and love. Hopefully that Mosquito Road crap was an isolated incident.

    I'll definitely be climbing Jurgens/Luneman again. I'll have to drop down there in the winter and see how wide the creek is then. The road near the bottom was unpaved and rocky, more appropriate for a mtb than my road bike. It made it though.

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    I must say I like the video quality of the Contour - it just seems so much more stable than my Playsport. Is the Contour weatherproof? That was my main reason for going with the Playsport.

    Ouch on the PS mounting screw Kinda makes me paranoid to use mine on the bike now. Can you try to get it fixed under warranty? Why oh Why did they not use metal...

    Great vid(s) as usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by magohn View Post
    I must say I like the video quality of the Contour - it just seems so much more stable than my Playsport. Is the Contour weatherproof? That was my main reason for going with the Playsport.

    Ouch on the PS mounting screw Kinda makes me paranoid to use mine on the bike now. Can you try to get it fixed under warranty? Why oh Why did they not use metal...

    Great vid(s) as usual
    Thanks. I'm impressed by the video quality too, and I hope it keeps working properly so I don't have to show you guys any more wobbly Playsport videos. I'm thinking the shakiness is the reason my Monitor Pass climb video has low views.

    The Contour is water resistant, but if you want it waterproof you have to buy the waterproof case.

    I'm not going to try to get it fixed under warranty, as I suspect I may have overtightened the camera in the mount one too many times. I took my new Playsport on its first test ride yesterday. It passed with flying colors, but I was careful not to overtighten it. I also used the small bungee cord through the wrist strap to keep the camera from rotating in the mount. I think one reason I had to cinch the old camera down so tight was because it used to rotate in the mount due to road vibration. With the bungee cord through the wrist strap, the camera stayed put.

    I agree with you. Why do camera companies use plastic for the tripod hole? At least the Contour universal mount has a metal tripod hole.

    I'm going to have the Playsport on the handlebars as a backup recording device on this weekend's climb up Donner Pass Road, but I'll take it off before descending in the hopes of reducing the stress on the tripod hole. If all goes well, there will be a video of that climb from the helmet-mounted Contour.

    I'm wondering if one of these would be a better way to mount the Playsport on the handlebars? I would use the small bungee cord to keep it from bouncing out of the mount, and I would be able to use my old Playsport if I wanted to, since it still works perfectly.

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    The threads were plastic? Flip is cheap but the threads are of metal. I do worry about over tightening the mount though......like water bottle cage mounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    The threads were plastic? Flip is cheap but the threads are of metal. I do worry about over tightening the mount though......like water bottle cage mounts.
    Yup. So are the threads on my Casio digital cameras, but they've held up much better. No evidence of wear on those.

    The Contour universal mount has metal threads.

    I'm glad Flip put metal threads in their mount. I considered buying a Flip before I got the other Playsport off eBay, but reviewers mentioned poor battery life. Also, the non-expandable memory was a deal-breaker. Last weekend's ride was almost 5 hours. The Flips I saw only had 1 or 2 hour capacities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill View Post
    I considered buying a Flip before I got the other Playsport off eBay, but reviewers mentioned poor battery life. Also, the non-expandable memory was a deal-breaker. Last weekend's ride was almost 5 hours. The Flips I saw only had 1 or 2 hour capacities.
    Really? The original battery I bought with my FLip is still going strong after a couple of years (recharged plugged into the puter). I've never ran it dead on a ride. Our ride the other day was 4.5 hours but I don't record the entire time, no problems with batter life. I might get 70 ride clips but never close to the 2 hour capability. Plus, the Flip also works with regular batteries or rechargeable. I'll never run out of power.

    Yup, 2 hours but who makes a 5 hour video and where can you post it? Who would watch it?

    But the Flip sucks in the vibration dept. No anti shock device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Really? The original battery I bought with my FLip is still going strong after a couple of years (recharged plugged into the puter). I've never ran it dead on a ride. Our ride the other day was 4.5 hours but I don't record the entire time, no problems with batter life. I might get 70 ride clips but never close to the 2 hour capability. Plus, the Flip also works with regular batteries or rechargeable. I'll never run out of power.

    Yup, 2 hours but who makes a 5 hour video and where can you post it? Who would watch it?

    But the Flip sucks in the vibration dept. No anti shock device.
    The reviewers were talking about time between charges. I like the fact that you can use regular batteries, but I want long runtime. I record my entire ride and only keep the good stuff. The rest is deleted. That's why I need large memory capacity and long runtime. Especially on a 7 mile climb, and especially now that I'm using DashWare to overlay my Garmin data onto the video. It makes things much easier if I only have to synchronize the data to a single video file, not several.

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    I share your mount failure pain. This was a Contour HD mounted to the headtube using the Contour helmet strap mount. I need to come up with a better plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbie53 View Post
    I share your mount failure pain. This was a Contour HD mounted to the headtube using the Contour helmet strap mount. I need to come up with a better plan.

    Yikes! Hopefully the camera wasn't damaged. Looks like you had it secured with the safety strap as it didn't hit the pavement.

    For head tube mounting I would use the Contour universal mount on a Pedco UltraClamp 2.5, which fits objects up to 2.5" in diameter. The regular Pedco UltraClamp only fits objects up to 1.5", so it won't work on the headtube of my road bike.

    With that setup I highly doubt you would experience a mount failure, especially since the Contour universal mount has a metal tripod hole instead of plastic like my Kodak Playsport.

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