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Old 08-24-11, 05:58 AM   #1
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Chilly Weather Clothing (fall type)

Will be riding a little more in the AM time during the weekdays and this morning was cold. I only have bibs and a jersey and socks. What else are you all wearing when it is colder outside?
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Old 08-24-11, 06:07 AM   #2
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I ordered a pair of arm warmers off of bonktown, but I'm curious to hear what suggestions people have. I'd personally like to ride right through the winter but that may be rough.
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Old 08-24-11, 06:22 AM   #3
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A wind shell is helpful. I also find my aging fingers need full-length gloves when it gets down below 60. Tights over your shorts are good, too. You can always peel them off and stuff in a jersey pocket when it warms up.
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Leg warmers and arm warmers work great until winter. If you aren't cold the first fifteen minutes, you are overdressed.
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Old 08-24-11, 07:52 AM   #5
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^^ True. It's all too easy to dress warm enough at the start, only to find you're overheating in pretty short order. Things that are easy to remove are better than things that aren't - like arm warmers instead of either a long-sleeved jersey or a long-sleeved base layer under a jersey. Think "adaptability."

That's one of the things that make autumn rides such a challenge. But the crisp air and beautiful scenery make them worth it.
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thin unpadded running tights over bike shorts for "transitional" weather when its too warm for thicker cycling tights
softshell (breathable) jacket for dry weather days < 45F
balaclavas for < 45F

I wear summer riding attire for days > 53F (sun, low wind, no precipitation).
$10 flimsy string backpack where I'll want to shed a layer / rides start 45F end at 70F.
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Old 08-24-11, 08:49 AM   #7
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It's mid to upper 40s here in the AM, but not raining yet, so I'm not bundled too heavily:

Performance Tundra-II longsleeve zipfront jersey (safety yellow) without baselayering
Bib shorts
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long gloves, socks, shoes (no covers) and a cap under my helmet
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(1) It's all about layers. Not magic items that keep you warm or cool or whatever.
(2) Dress for the second mile of your ride, not the first one.
(3) Cover the extremities.
(4) No cotton!

I use a very thin pair of merino glove liners for my hands. As the season progresses, I'll move to a long sleeved merino top, and eventually add a light-weight wind breaker. When the cold marches on, I'll add a cashmere sweater as a mid layer (fantastic warmth to weight ratio, and a wider comfort range than merino), then merino long johns under my pants. When it gets down around or below 40 F the wind breaker goes back in the closet and a goretex shell comes out. I use a merino neck gaiter as an open hat, and, if it's cold enough, a thin cashmere scarf.
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Be very careful. You're starting down a slippery slope, and you may soon have three different wardrobes for summer, spring/fall, and winter.

Somewhere between 50-60F I'll add knee warmers and long-sleeve jersey. As it gets colder, below 50 the jersey turns to wool, or a jacket goes on top, and the full-finger gloves. Note these are not thin protective shells for mountain biking in summer, they are warm. Knee warmers give way to tights below 45, and ear warmers go on. Around 40 I'll add a polypro layer outside synthetic jersey. Below 30, gloves change to lobsters, socks must be long and wool, and a synthetic tee goes under the jersey. Below 25, the ear warmers give way to a balaclava, and I'll wrap half a plastic grocery bag around socks before putting on shoes.

Oh, there's three different thicknesses of tights in that countdown. And I really need something warmer for toes below 20F...

But as you can see, it's really easy just to get one or two bits of clothing to take you to cooler temperatures!
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Leg warmers and arm warmers work great until winter. If you aren't cold the first fifteen minutes, you are overdressed.
Ditto this. I think the OP needs to spend less time thinking of ways to spend himself into riding condition and experience. Wait until it really gets cold before you start thinking of such gear.

BTW, overnight temps in Cherry Hill, NJ are in the mid 60s this time of year.
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Arm and leg warmers work well for me. I also have a pretty warm long sleeve jersey that I picked up in Spain back in '98. It's held up well all these years.

My fingers and toes tend to get chilly. To counter that, I wear a pair of polypro glove liners under my short gloves (screw the fashion police on that one) and toe covers. Both are pretty inexpensive.

A lot of people I know like vests coupled with arm warmers. A vest serves as a wind shell for your chest yet vents better than many full jackets.
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BTW, overnight temps in Cherry Hill, NJ are in the mid 60s this time of year.
Short sleeves, maybe some lightweight arm warmers, bibs, lightweight knee warmers, nothing else special for that temperature unless it's raining. Then I'd ditch the warmers and go with rainlegs and a light jacket.
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Old 08-24-11, 12:31 PM   #13
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neil: Since I 1) Have never been here in the fall or winter and 2) Plan things out so I dont freak my wife out when I buy something....

....its a good idea for me to ask, do the research and have a plan before I need them.
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Old 08-24-11, 12:58 PM   #14
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Tights over your shorts are good, too. You can always peel them off and stuff in a jersey pocket when it warms up.
Arm warmers, full-finger gloves, toe covers and I agree that tights over shorts are better than leg warmers. If it is cold enough to warrant leg warmers I find my a$$ gets very cold but everything else is perfect - tights fix that problem.
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neil: Since I 1) Have never been here in the fall or winter and 2) Plan things out so I dont freak my wife out when I buy something....

....its a good idea for me to ask, do the research and have a plan before I need them.
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Old 08-24-11, 02:16 PM   #16
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Ditto this. I think the OP needs to spend less time thinking of ways to spend himself into riding condition and experience. Wait until it really gets cold before you start thinking of such gear.

BTW, overnight temps in Cherry Hill, NJ are in the mid 60s this time of year.
As someone who used to work in retail, I actually have to disagree with this a little. Retail has ridiculous seasons; if you wait too long they'll already be stocking next summers clothes in the stores.

My favorite anecdote is that one year in January, we had to close the store at noon due to a gigantic snowstorm that pretty much shut down Buffalo. Guess what I was doing up until the store closure? I was putting bathing suits out on display on one of our main aisles.

Right now is the best time to shop for fall clothing in retail; by the time fall actually arrives, there will be nothing left. Likewise, Winter clothing should be hitting the stores in 2-3 weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if some stores already have Christmas displays.
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Old 08-24-11, 02:40 PM   #17
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I have an inexpensive HUNTER ORANGE HOODIE that works pretty well in spring and fall during drier times, and my rain shell will fit over it but if it's windy I'll just use the rain/windshell and arm warmers. The orange hoodie works great here in the "Land o' Bubba" because I figure most folks won't see a cyclist, but they'll damn sure pick out what might be another hunter! Been working pretty well the last couple of years commuting anyway.
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Here's roughly how I dress:

> 50 degrees: t-shirt, shorts and socks.
35 - 49 degrees: throw on a sweatshirt, and full-fingered cycling gloves.
20 - 34 degrees: switch to long pants, calf-length socks and add a headband to cover my ears.
0 - 19 degrees: replace the sweatshirt with a wind breaker. Replace the headband with a balaclava. Replace the cycling gloves with snowmobile gloves. Switch to boots if there's snow on the ground.
< 0 degrees: add thermal underwear and socks as a base layer. Put the headband back on but pull it down for additional neck protection.

Oh, and those temps are Farenheit.
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I have tights (with and without pads), leg warmers, arm warmers, full finger gloves, glove liners, lightweight balaclava, longsleeve jerseys and actually a pair of ski goggles I got super cheap for if I ever get around to commuting in the snow. What I lack is a good jacket. Right now I have a high vis non-vented rain jacket that does ok, but the fact that it's non-vented makes it super hot unless it's really cold out (say 15-20 or less), but it's really cold until I have built up that heat so it's suboptimal in a number of regards. Oh and I also have a couple of pairs of knickers for commuting because wearing lycra only over my junk apparently isn't professional around patients and is frowned upon even if I change as soon as I get to where I work.
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I've had a few chilly mornings in the 40s in northern Minnesota. I've been thinking about getting tights to go over the shorts. I did do one ride where I put cotton leggings over my bike shorts and then took them off in about 8 miles. Probably not the best choice but they were cozy for starting the ride and didn't take up much storage room.

I need some kind of jacket that is light and easy to remove. I wear a regular jacket but it flaps too much in the wind. I like the idea of some kind of vented wind breaker.

I have not been using cycling gloves but when it is cold I am using regular gloves. My hands get cold easily.
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I like the idea of some kind of vented wind breaker.
A lot have zippers that go through the arm pits, to let air in, but still give you some protection from the rain. Some have chest pockets with vents behind them; you can close the zippers for protection from the elements, or leave them open and get some breeze through.

This one has only a shoulder pocket, but lets about 1/3 the wind through the fabric itself. It's very water resistant, but soaks through after an hour or so. It seems to add as little warmth/insulation as possible for another layer. I like it a lot for cycling:

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Arm and leg warmers work well for me. I also have a pretty warm long sleeve jersey that I picked up in Spain back in '98. It's held up well all these years.

My fingers and toes tend to get chilly. To counter that, I wear a pair of polypro glove liners under my short gloves (screw the fashion police on that one) and toe covers. Both are pretty inexpensive.

A lot of people I know like vests coupled with arm warmers. A vest serves as a wind shell for your chest yet vents better than many full jackets.
+1 - when it's a little colder, I like a long sleeve Under-Armor or equivalent technical stretchy shirt (I have some Reeboks I got cheap), it does a good job of keeping me warm without overheating.
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As someone who used to work in retail, I actually have to disagree with this a little. Retail has ridiculous seasons; if you wait too long they'll already be stocking next summers clothes in the stores.

My favorite anecdote is that one year in January, we had to close the store at noon due to a gigantic snowstorm that pretty much shut down Buffalo. Guess what I was doing up until the store closure? I was putting bathing suits out on display on one of our main aisles.

Right now is the best time to shop for fall clothing in retail; by the time fall actually arrives, there will be nothing left. Likewise, Winter clothing should be hitting the stores in 2-3 weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if some stores already have Christmas displays.
Who shops in stores for bike clothing? The Iron Chef could get it online.
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Y'all make me giggle. When it gets a little cold here, it's time to break out corduroy pants, a wool sweater and a scarf. Definitely a tailored rain jacket. Cute leather boots.

Dutch biking, it's comfy.

That, and I'm a giant wuss.
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Who shops in stores for bike clothing? The Iron Chef could get it online.
True, but with clothing, I like to at least try it on first.
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