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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 08-30-11, 09:25 PM   #1
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Looking for Strong light weight Wheels

Hi, i'm 6'4" 255lbs and I have been blowing out spoke nipples on my current wheels. Ritchy WCS protocols. I would like to buy a set of lightweight wheels that can handle my weight. I ride about 100 miles a week average on mostly flat roads.

I was considering Mavic R-sys, Topolinos. any thoughts?

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Old 08-30-11, 10:14 PM   #2
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The Topolino's are awesome wheels. One of the best riding wheels out there and will have no problem with your weight. I use mine on my single and tandem. They have about 25-30k miles on them. The only broken spoke was one on the front when I hit a pothole at 60mph on the tandem and the wheel didn't even go out of true. Can't say enough good stuff about them.
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I was considering Mavic R-sys, Topolinos. any thoughts?
If you're only riding 100 miles a week on mostly flat roads, you probably don't need super-expensive, super-light wheels...

After all of the problems with the R-sys, I'm not tempted to use anything with fiber spokes. If you've got money to burn, look into a set of the new Zipp 404 Firecrest tubular or carbon clincher wheels. On flat roads, you won't notice the additional weight over the Topolinos or R-sys but you will notice the aero benefit.
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Old 08-31-11, 07:13 AM   #4
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It might be worth a call to Neuvation to talk about it. They have some relatively (some might say very) inexpensive wheels that have gotten great reviews. I bought a pair of their basic M28 X Aeros when they had them on a daily sale special, as backups for the OEM Shimanos that came on my Cannondale. I've been waiting on getting a new cassette before I can try them out. They say they're the strongest wheels they make, with what seems to me to be a reasonable weight for the money - 760/990 grams, f/r. You can find them on the web here.
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Old 08-31-11, 09:32 AM   #5
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Just for curiosity's sake, why is "lightweight" a concern for these wheels? There are plenty of strong, light wheels out there, but for similar durability to a heavier wheel they're gonna cost a significant amount more.
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Did you check out the reviews on the Mavic R-sys or do a search. The falling apart crash pictures are bothersome. Light wheels aren't always the best bet.
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Old 08-31-11, 10:07 AM   #7
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LBS recommends Mavic Kyserium Elite SL ... however they're spelled. They say these are strong enough for every day use and should never even need truing.
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Will the LBS guarantee that!!!

LOL!

Every wheel will need truing, at some point.
I have wheels built by peter white, that need truing, not much, but a little now and then.

Strong and lightweight should not be in the same sentence together. IMO!
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Will the LBS guarantee that!!!

LOL!
I've had several LBS say "they never need truing". Get it on paper!
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I just put these on my latest build

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/120...p=365%20SHIUL1

Should do the trick for you.
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I've had several LBS say "they never need truing". Get it on paper!
I'm with you Beanz,

Give me my Deep V's or Dyads, double butted and 3X, and Ill ride down the road a happy fat guy!
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LBS recommends Mavic Kyserium Elite SL ... however they're spelled. They say these are strong enough for every day use and should never even need truing.
They are a good, tough wheel. A friend of mine who weighs 235 uses them on his superlight dream machine and routinely hammers long standing climbs on them. He's never had an issue with those wheels.
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Will the LBS guarantee that!!!

LOL!
Yes.

If I decide to get a set of wheels, I'm going to strongly consider getting them at REI (who'll probably have to order them) because they give a 10 % "dividend" at the end of the year, and they'll refund or replace anything you buy from them for any reason, including "these are supposed to be strong enough to never go out of true, but they aren't." ( I may wind up not getting new wheels, and I may wind up getting them from a smaller shop. )
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If you're only riding 100 miles a week on mostly flat roads, you probably don't need super-expensive, super-light wheels...

After all of the problems with the R-sys, I'm not tempted to use anything with fiber spokes. If you've got money to burn, look into a set of the new Zipp 404 Firecrest tubular or carbon clincher wheels. On flat roads, you won't notice the additional weight over the Topolinos or R-sys but you will notice the aero benefit.
Only 100 miles a week? thats 400 miles a month. 5200 miles a year. thats a LOT of mileage for a 255lb person that probably averages 15mph.
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Old 08-31-11, 01:31 PM   #15
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go to www.bikehubstore.com buy a set of their lightweight hubs for in 28/32 hole drilling (292 grams) and then buy a 28 hole kinlin xr-270 rim (445 grams) for the front and a 32 hole xr 300 (465 grams) for the rear. Then get it built with DT Comp spokes (50 spokes appx. 300 grams)

Hubs $120
Rims $80
Spokes $50
Labor for build at LBS $100

Total $350 for a 1500 gram wheelset with 32 spoke deep v profiled rear wheel. Pretty damn stout and pretty light. It will be similar to the neuvation wheels people rave about except with greater spoke count and no aero spokes. To me aero wheels probably don't help that much when as a 250+ lb rider your body probably isn't very aero.
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...similar to the neuvation wheels people rave about except with greater spoke count...
And that's certainly a good thing around this neck of the woods.
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I just put these on my latest build

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/120...p=365%20SHIUL1

Should do the trick for you.
he said light! lol
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The Topolino's are awesome wheels. One of the best riding wheels out there and will have no problem with your weight. I use mine on my single and tandem. They have about 25-30k miles on them. The only broken spoke was one on the front when I hit a pothole at 60mph on the tandem and the wheel didn't even go out of true. Can't say enough good stuff about them.
Let me get this straight you were do 60MPH, hit a pothole, BROKE a spoke, and your wheel stayed true? Are we really supposed to believe this?
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Let me get this straight you were do 60MPH, hit a pothole, BROKE a spoke, and your wheel stayed true? Are we really supposed to believe this?

Yes, but I suppose you don't have to if you don't want to. Have you ever looked at a Topolino wheel? Besides braking a spoke it also put a dimple in the rim and flatted the tire.
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Carbon rims and specifically carbon tubulars never get discussed in this forum. I think it stems from people having more of a recreational fitness approach to riding as opposed to racing but my research tells me that a carbon tubular that would be considered "AERO" for your typical sub-180lb road cyclist would make a very strong but lightweight Clyde wheel. a 50mm carbon tubular has plenty of strength withing the rim itself and could probably be built to 20-24 but certainly built out as 24-28 would be good. the rims are probably a good 100-150 grams lighter than an alloy deep v and the deep profile lends itself to fewer spokes so you can shed another 100grams in spokes. 1500 gram wheelsets easily achieved and as low as 1300 depending on the hubs used.

Not all of us clydes are overweight, some of us are just tall and still like to think of ourselves as hi performance rather than recreational.
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^ What's braking like on carbon rims? If you buy the expensive pads, how long do they last?
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Carbon rims and specifically carbon tubulars never get discussed in this forum....
I used to race on Zipp 404 carbon tubulars. They are great wheels and they are a few grams lighter than the clincher version. To be honest, I couldn't tell the difference in speed between the clinchers and tubulars. A few years back I had a tire roll off my tubulars under heavy breaking with the result being a crash. The crash was pretty ugly but not all the fault of the tire coming off. Since the wheel was destroyed I replaced them with Zipp 404 Clinchers. All my Zipp wheels are now clinchers. It's just easier and more convenient for me.

As far as braking on the carbon tubulars goes, it was fine. I've never really payed much attention to how long the pads lasted. I just replace stuff when it wears out. I couldn't tell you how long any of my brake pads last.
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exactly, if your shelling out money for carbon tubulars, buying brake pads is the least of your worries! FWIW, I don't have any yet but they are on the radar for purchase hopefully in the next week or 2along with a new bike, depending the results of my insurance claim on my recently stolen bike.
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Here's a pick of the Topolino's on the tandem. The same wheels go on the single.

They are light are more than strong enough to handle me on both bikes. Their only downside is that they are not as aerodynamic as my Zipps.
Sorry, don't have a pick of the broken spoke. I can post a copy of the invoice to repair it though.
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HI, a lot of good feedback. Started the year at near 300lbs. lately been riding 150 miles a week, but earlier in the year many weeks with only 40 miles. As the time changes my riding will diminish. I don't have money to burn, but I don't mind paying for quality. Still trying to lose more weight, but I enjoy any advantage good equipment can bring. almost 48 yr old and even though I am tall i'm still at least 30 to 40 lbs over weight. I was considering using tubeless tires and that is why I was considering the R-sys.
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