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Old 09-03-11, 05:23 PM   #1
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Is carbon 105 is as good as Ultegra?

Well, is it?
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Old 09-03-11, 05:40 PM   #2
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Let me stoke the fire cause I am curious. Exactly what is the difference between the 105 and the Ultegra that makes the Ultegra supposedly better than the 105?
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Old 09-03-11, 05:48 PM   #3
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Depends on your ride style. If your style is to sprint to the finish line of a charity ride and can't afford a mis shift, then Ultegra is worth every penny when it comes to impressing your friends. Not to mention, it weighs about one less Benny and Jerry's, so it accelerates faster too.
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I must be out of the loop: what's "carbon 105"? As far as I know, there's just 105 (in either silver or black coloring) and Ultegra (in silver or grey coloring)... Some people can tell the difference between the two without a gram scale and some people can't. Honestly, in a blind test I'm not sure that I could tell the difference.
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Depends on your ride style. If your style is to sprint to the finish line of a charity ride and can't afford a mis shift, then Ultegra is worth every penny when it comes to impressing your friends. Not to mention, it weighs about one less Benny and Jerry's, so it accelerates faster too.
So that means that it'll turn my 14mph average commute speed on my roughly 36lb comfort bike into a 20mph average?
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Old 09-03-11, 06:23 PM   #6
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As far as i can tell...

Ultegra: lighter weight, stiffer materials, more "substance" to it, slightly better shifting performance (quicker, more sure engagement).
105: more plastics, less stiff, less beefier "substance", leading to the less "crisp" shifting.
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I'm not familiar with the carbon 105, either. I've got Ultegra on my Madone but test rode several with 105. It's all good stuff. What differences there are are fairly negligible to the average rider. So, to answer your question, Yes. Maybe.
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Maybe it's supposed to mean "is a carbon bike with 105 better than a non-carbon bike with Ultegra?"

Is it supposed to mean that, or is it supposed to mean "carbon 105?" It depends.
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I must be out of the loop: what's "carbon 105"? As far as I know, there's just 105 (in either silver or black coloring) and Ultegra (in silver or grey coloring)... Some people can tell the difference between the two without a gram scale and some people can't. Honestly, in a blind test I'm not sure that I could tell the difference.
I was quoting Mr. Beanz in another thread.
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I'm torn between saying 'flip it' and posting a facepalm image. Oh bikeforums, what to do? (Better ask Pcad in the 41... Or Carleton in SSFG...)
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Is fahrenheit 451 better than 1984?
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Is fahrenheit 451 better than 1984?
Or are either as good as Brave New World?
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Depends if you're an alpha male...
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I must be out of the loop: what's "carbon 105"?
An isotope of carbon with an extra 93 neutrons?
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Not even close.
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