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    Is carbon 105 is as good as Ultegra?

    Well, is it?

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    Let me stoke the fire cause I am curious. Exactly what is the difference between the 105 and the Ultegra that makes the Ultegra supposedly better than the 105?
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    Depends on your ride style. If your style is to sprint to the finish line of a charity ride and can't afford a mis shift, then Ultegra is worth every penny when it comes to impressing your friends. Not to mention, it weighs about one less Benny and Jerry's, so it accelerates faster too.

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    I must be out of the loop: what's "carbon 105"? As far as I know, there's just 105 (in either silver or black coloring) and Ultegra (in silver or grey coloring)... Some people can tell the difference between the two without a gram scale and some people can't. Honestly, in a blind test I'm not sure that I could tell the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Depends on your ride style. If your style is to sprint to the finish line of a charity ride and can't afford a mis shift, then Ultegra is worth every penny when it comes to impressing your friends. Not to mention, it weighs about one less Benny and Jerry's, so it accelerates faster too.
    So that means that it'll turn my 14mph average commute speed on my roughly 36lb comfort bike into a 20mph average?
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    As far as i can tell...

    Ultegra: lighter weight, stiffer materials, more "substance" to it, slightly better shifting performance (quicker, more sure engagement).
    105: more plastics, less stiff, less beefier "substance", leading to the less "crisp" shifting.

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    I'm not familiar with the carbon 105, either. I've got Ultegra on my Madone but test rode several with 105. It's all good stuff. What differences there are are fairly negligible to the average rider. So, to answer your question, Yes. Maybe.

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    Maybe it's supposed to mean "is a carbon bike with 105 better than a non-carbon bike with Ultegra?"

    Is it supposed to mean that, or is it supposed to mean "carbon 105?" It depends.
    Craig in Indy

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    I must be out of the loop: what's "carbon 105"? As far as I know, there's just 105 (in either silver or black coloring) and Ultegra (in silver or grey coloring)... Some people can tell the difference between the two without a gram scale and some people can't. Honestly, in a blind test I'm not sure that I could tell the difference.
    I was quoting Mr. Beanz in another thread.

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    I'm torn between saying 'flip it' and posting a facepalm image. Oh bikeforums, what to do? (Better ask Pcad in the 41... Or Carleton in SSFG...)

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    Is fahrenheit 451 better than 1984?
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    Is fahrenheit 451 better than 1984?
    Or are either as good as Brave New World?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigB View Post
    Or are either as good as Brave New World?
    Depends if you're an alpha male...
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    I must be out of the loop: what's "carbon 105"?
    An isotope of carbon with an extra 93 neutrons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigB View Post
    Or are either as good as Brave New World?
    Not even close.

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