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    I Don't Want to Be a Bad Muthuh Anymore! ;-)

    Another toasted frame. Did some climbing last night, today, on the uphill of an underpass into the wind, POP! I thought I broke a spoke. Gina heard the pop from behind so we both thought I broke a spoke. Checked , looked fine. Checked BB area of frame, fine. Get back on and the wheel is going side to side. Remove wheel, check for broken axle, nope. Further inspection of the frame reveals a broken chainstay.

    Well, goes to show that my wheel building skills are pretty good seeing that my frames pop before way before my spokes ha ha!

    First popped frame happened after 3 years and 13,000 miles. This second frame, 3 years and 14,600. I set a personal best on this one.

    First frame was aluminum, second a mix of carbon and aluminum. Broken stay on this frame is again on the aluminum section.


    This pop!









    Last frame 3 years ago at the BB area.




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    That's where my original Trek 1500 broke - right at/in front of the dropout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Another toasted frame. Did some climbing last night, today, on the uphill of an underpass into the wind, POP! I thought I broke a spoke. Gina heard the pop from behind so we both thought I broke a spoke. Checked , looked fine. Checked BB area of frame, fine. Get back on and the wheel is going side to side. Remove wheel, check for broken axle, nope. Further inspection of the frame reveals a broken chainstay.

    Well, goes to show that my wheel building skills are pretty good seeing that my frames pop before way before my spokes ha ha!

    First popped frame happened after 3 years and 13,000 miles. This second frame, 3 years and 14,600. I set a personal best on this one.

    First frame was aluminum, second a mix of carbon and aluminum. Broken stay on this frame is again on the aluminum section.


    (snip)

    Last frame 3 years ago at the BB area.
    One has to wonder if this would have happened on an all steel frame.
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    Nashbar has a huge frame sale going on right now if you're looking to replace it on the cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
    One has to wonder if this would have happened on an all steel frame.
    I'm thinking if they replace the frame...again (which they should imo with the lifetime warranty), I just might sell the new frame and buy an old steel bike with DT shifters. Then use my wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bengreen79 View Post
    Nashbar has a huge frame sale going on right now if you're looking to replace it on the cheap.
    It should be a free replacement with Trek's lifetime warranty.

    But heck, I may sell the new frame and look into it. ....(pending on results of claim)

    I'm just sad cause it was a purty bike.


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    That there is a real bummer. Good luck with the frame replacement, as you said- LIFETIME warranty. At least you didn't get hurt man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigB View Post
    That's where my original Trek 1500 broke - right at/in front of the dropout.
    This is getting scary. First one snapped on a climb. This one on a tiny climb, but maybe an accumulation of time on past climbs. Every 3 years I have to worry about breaking my face.

    I'm seriously thinking of an old steel bike as I use this as a beater (training and most all riding).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisO View Post
    That there is a real bummer. Good luck with the frame replacement, as you said- LIFETIME warranty. At least you didn't get hurt man.
    Thanks! Yeah, I keep lucking out. Well sort of I guess. First one was a major snap on a major climb. Glad it didn't happen on the descent, but that may never happen without the stress of the climb. Second one, on the trail, maybe a result of last night's climb. Last night was a descent in the dark. Glad it didn't happen then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I'm seriously thinking of an old steel bike as I use this as a beater (training and most all riding).
    I broke the chainstay of my steel '89 HardRock just by riding over the 1 1/2-2" high lip of a driveway where it meets the road. I was 117 pounds too.

    I'm pretty sure it was accumulated stresses from jumping curbs and dirt jumps though. I no longer ride like that, and so far my aluminum and steel bikes have held up just fine. Well, except for the two steel Sun EZ-3 recumbent delta trikes I used to own. I babied those bikes, but I have a feeling they broke because my super Clyde friend owned them at one time. He was almost 470 pounds, riding a bike with a 300 pound weight limit. Even though he didn't ride them very much, he may have stressed the frames. Or they're just poorly-designed bikes. The fact that they both had only a 5-year warranty on the frame speaks volumes.

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    Note to self: If Beanz ever comes to PA and needs to borrow a bike make sure he gets the one I want replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
    One has to wonder if this would have happened on an all steel frame.
    whats your friggin point??? he would also be spending a lot more time and energy climbing on a steel frame too. it's all about what you want. If your an avid enthusiast of ANY sport, equipment is part of it and equipment breaks. Beanz uses his equipment, it's gonna break eventually.

    Beanz, your bike was ugly. It might have been purty in 1988 but that color scheme makes me wanna puke! time to get yourself some nice new carbon fiber!

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    Quote Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
    whats your friggin point??? he would also be spending a lot more time and energy climbing on a steel frame too. it's all about what you want. If your an avid enthusiast of ANY sport, equipment is part of it and equipment breaks. Beanz uses his equipment, it's gonna break eventually.

    Beanz, your bike was ugly. It might have been purty in 1988 but that color scheme makes me wanna puke! time to get yourself some nice new carbon fiber!
    His comment was that steel tends to have a longer fatigue life. He didn't insult your girlfriend, take a pill.
    You've got a bike, so you gotta move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitantPotato View Post
    His comment was that steel tends to have a longer fatigue life. He didn't insult your girlfriend, take a pill.
    Right and my comment is that steel rides slow as ****. some of us don't want to ride that slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitantPotato View Post
    His comment was that steel tends to have a longer fatigue life. He didn't insult your girlfriend, take a pill.
    And he didn't even recommend a Worksman.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by paisan View Post
    Note to self: If Beanz ever comes to PA and needs to borrow a bike make sure he gets the one I want replaced.


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    Quote Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
    Right and my comment is that steel rides slow as ****.
    My guess is that how fast you ride has more to do with your own physical fitness and less to do with which frame material you choose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    My guess is that how fast you ride has more to do with your own physical fitness and less to do with which frame material you choose...
    Well considering i've bought 2 bikes in the last 2 weeks, one steel and one CF and also ridden my other bike which is AL I am qualified to say that your guess is incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motobecane69 View Post
    Beanz, your bike was ugly. It might have been purty in 1988 but that color scheme makes me wanna puke! time to get yourself some nice new carbon fiber!
    You're funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    My guess is that how fast you ride has more to do with your own physical fitness and less to do with which frame material you choose...
    Yes and Yes. I need to be in top shape to compete. This much is true. But what bike will I be faster on? A 35 pound steel behemoth, or a 20 pound CF bike? When I see riders ditch their water bottles before a big climb to shed a few ounces, what do you think 15 pounds or more is worth in energy and/or speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayre Kulp View Post
    Yes and Yes. I need to be in top shape to compete. This much is true. But what bike will I be faster on? A 35 pound steel behemoth, or a 20 pound CF bike? When I see riders ditch their water bottles before a big climb to shed a few ounces, what do you think 15 pounds or more is worth in energy and/or speed?
    When my salsa casserole was first built without bags or rack all 105 group 58cm it weighed 26lbs with a brooks b-17. Steel will never be as light as carbon but you can get close enough to where a difference is minimal with this particular group. I also have a trek 1600 light aluminum and carbon fork weighs about 23lbs I am no faster on that bike then I am on the casserole but I am much more comfy on the casserole and the ride quality is better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayre Kulp View Post
    a 20 pound CF bike
    You're not doing it right.

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    More proof that you're a fat a$$ Beanz

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    You should have bought a worksman that would have never happened on a worksman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I'm thinking if they replace the frame...again (which they should imo with the lifetime warranty), I just might sell the new frame and buy an old steel bike with DT shifters. Then use my wheels.
    Bummer...glad it didn't happen on a descent Both of my bikes are steel. Time for an upgrade imo.

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