"Watch out for giants; they are boorish fools with tongues wagging, drunk upon their own words.
They will try to teach you a lesson if given the chance, and you will stumble over their stinking feet."
A lot of my family lives in Florida - that is nice for us in the winter - I've noticed during the last 45 years that it occasionally rains here in the Puget Sound during the October to thru June period that we call winter.
While riding in Florida I stopped in a small town to ask directions. They were very helpful and said "go about two miles North - after you go up and over the BIG hill - turn left at the bottom..."
Couldn't find the place to turn left - went back for more help - turns out the BIG HILL was the overpass where the county road went up and over the Interstate.
Another Florida Hill story:
I spent three months with my Dad in Cape Coral Florida a couple years ago - I stopped in the local bike shop to ask where I could ride to get some uphill work so I would not suffer to much when I got back to Puget Sound.
The shop said they do a local hill climb and gave me the address - it turned out to be the Cape Coral bridge over the Caloosahatchee River - the road rises from 5' to 65' in a 1/2 mile - that was the local hill climb!
A final Florida Hill story:
My folks live not to far from a scenic rural road called "Tuckers Grade" - I had to try riding that - the roads with "Grade" in them in Puget Sound of SoCal always seemed to be a challenge for me. "Tuckers Grade" climbs 10 feet in 10 miles!
Local Perspective is what counts
Tested my classifications on tonight's ride and whaddya know, right on the money. 27 miles ride, 868 ft climbing (321 ft/10 miles), 19.9mph avg. Fits my flat to rolling class to a tee
"Obstacles don't like me very much. I make them look bad."
If you have to drop down to those last two or three cogs and spin (assuming you are already in whatever smaller ring you have) then it's hilly for you.
Remember, for an extra hilly 100 feet per mile route, it would include a similar amount of descending. So the average climbing grade would be closer to 200 feet per mile or almost 4%. And a hilly route almost never has a steady grade, there's always steeper and shallower parts.
I loaded the hills part of your route into ridewithgps here. You can hover over the elevation graph to see grades at each point in the ride, or drag a section of the route to get statistics just for that section.
But even ridewithgps can't be perfectly accurate on steeper climbs. It has to estimate the exact elevation of the road, based on known elevation points near the road. If those points are on the side of a hill, the road elevation can be off enough to affect the grade calculation. Sometimes ridewithgps will show 4%, 9%, 6%, 7% within a very short distance, even when the road has a steady grade there.
Just for this 22 mile section, it calculated 1500 feet of climbing. That counts every little bump in the road, and very shallow "false flat" climbs, too. It would match up pretty close to a Garmin GPS recording of the ride.
The big climb at the 11 mile mark is 325 feet in about .95 mile, much of it between 8% and 10% grade. That's pretty steep. The other grades look reasonable.
Last edited by rm -rf; 09-27-11 at 10:06 PM.
Move forward along the road to get an idea of how long/steep it is. The images still don't do it any justice.
I'm still going to try it. I may have to stop several times up the hill, but I will do it. I made the decision this morning when I was going up a hill on my commute in 32/12, a full 7 gears higher than I could do it a few months back (32/23). So if I can handle smaller hills in a "high" gear now with no issues, hopefully the gigantic ones won't be impossible. Though for next year I'm definitely going to change out my gearing and go for something lower than 22/27... thinking 22/34.
It's easier if you climb during the flood tide. When the moon is directly overhead, you get a gravitational boost of about 1.1 × 10^−7 g.
Don't believe everything you think.
Thanks for the link to ridewithgps.com!
How do I show a map from there I wonder? Here is the 18 mile ride I did Saturday in 1hr20m.
Turkey Creek Bombing Run
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18.1 miles, +1356 feet
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Mapmyride... made it seem like this was a much flatter route than it really is. When I figure out how to post a link I will. I called it Bombing run because there is one drop on Turkey Creek where I hit 45+ MPH on my Schwinn Voyageur which I have taken to calling the Blue Bomber.
Along the east coast of Florida we don't rate rides by climbs but by wind speed and direction. You will fight a headwind in the morning riding west and a stronger headwind in the afternoon returning home. Ride along the coast and the cross winds will knock you down.
For me, if I feel the lactic acid flowing, it is most likely a hill. The lactic acid may be less than it once was, because of training, but if I feel it....hill it is!
(Of course, we all probably define it differently based on location and experience.)
The only way to know for sure is to practice, and if you practice enough, it will be obtainable. - cranky velocist
A"hilly" ride is one that makes me think about the hills. I see lots of hilly rides in March and April, not too many in October and November.
"Obstacles don't like me very much. I make them look bad."
I guess I am used to hills and they don't bother me. I know that eventually they will end.
Riding in Florida (SW coast - Cape Coral - Pine Island - Alva - Sanibel) in the winter was depressing at times due to the wind. I'd ride 25 - 30 miles in almost a straight line with the 15 - 20 mph wind at my back. I'd reach the end of the island and then have to turn around and face 25 miles dead into the wind.
The Florida winter wind, unlike most hills, NEVER gives you a break. It gets stronger but never much weaker. The gusts are painful, 'kinda like a 1/4 mile steeper pitch, but then the average is still there. It is never possible to relax and rest just a little with the relentless wind.
I'd much rather ride long hills than flat land into a 20 mph head wind.