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Old 09-27-11, 07:14 PM   #1
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Brooks for the big man!

Ok so my main rig is a Trek 1200 and it has this ridiculously uncomfortable Selle Italia saddle that i can stand no longer. Myself being a big man 6'4" and about 285 i was wondering if i should get a brooks saddle, the b17 in particular. I have heard good things about them but i don't know any of my fellow big men who have tried them. Can any of you guys give me some of your experiences and maybe some pro and cons? Thanks in advance, TJ.
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Old 09-27-11, 08:52 PM   #2
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I ride a brooks b17 myself and I am 360+. Very comfortable for me and I do not even use cycling shorts yet. Spent too much on my bike and assorted goodies too afford much more for a while. I am not happy with my choice of pedals or spd sandals however. I got spd campus pedals and some keen spd sandals. Not a happy camper at all. Gonna try some speedplay frogs with pearl izumi x-alp spd shoes next.
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I also have a B17. Awesome saddle, butt never sore even after 4+ hours for me. No complaints after 3000+ miles this year. I almost guarantee that you will not regret buying one. Definitely worth it!
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go get measured for a seat and try a few. Seats are so subjective that you won't know until you try one, but if you know what width to buy you'll at least have something in your corner.
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Doesn't matter how much extra you carry as it matters how far apart your sit bones are; the bones carry your weight on the saddle.

I've ridden a B-17 over a 75 pound range that includes your current weight. If it fits your bones, there's a good chance it'll be comfortable for you!
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I'm 6'-2" and weighed 255 when I got my B-17 a couple of months ago. I'm 246 now and it's starting to feel broken-in after roughly 500 miles of riding. I don't wear anything but boxers and shorts... will probably buy something padded in the near future, but my usual rides are 15-25 miles (17.6 last night, for example) and the saddle feels good.

Use the Proofide to soften it up... that helps too!

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go get measured for a seat and try a few.
Sadly, there is no universal way to measure saddles. Specialized is the only company I know that actually has a measuring device and it seems like it's only calibrated to their saddles...

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Agree. I'm one of those people for whom the Brooks B17 just doesn't work. It felt to me like you'd need a pretty upright riding position for the B17 to be comfortable.
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I was measured at my local Specialized dealer and bought a $150 seat as a result. The new seat hurt more than the old. I was in so much pain I dreaded dismounting as the blood rush to the painful area would make my eyes water. In desperation I took a chance on a B17 and have never looked back in over 1000 miles. I dont even think about my buns anymore and Im 285lbs - great saddle. Only issue is you really should not get it wet. I carry a showercap that fits the seat on such occasions.
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Agree. I'm one of those people for whom the Brooks B17 just doesn't work. It felt to me like you'd need a pretty upright riding position for the B17 to be comfortable.
I have a pretty upright riding position as my saddle to bar drop is just about level, that's why i am thinking the b17 might be ok for me. I'm having a tough time finding somewhere in my area that carries them in stock to actually get a hands on feel and check them out.
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Ok so my main rig is a Trek 1200 and it has this ridiculously uncomfortable Selle Italia saddle that i can stand no longer. Myself being a big man 6'4" and about 285 i was wondering if i should get a brooks saddle, the b17 in particular. I have heard good things about them but i don't know any of my fellow big men who have tried them. Can any of you guys give me some of your experiences and maybe some pro and cons? Thanks in advance, TJ.
I'm not quite as big as you, 6-2, 220, but the B17 is the best saddle for me. I've got two standard B17s and another bike with a Wrights W.3N (similar to a Brooks B17N). Comfy enough that I usually don't bother with bike shorts, I just ride in street clothes.
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I am 6-0 and weight about 250. I have a B17 imperial and I am happy as a clam on it. My last saddle hurt like you can't imagine and the Brooks had been great to ride. No complaints at all about it. I also did the matching brooks leather bar tape on my handlebars and it gets a lot of compliments.
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I really want to take a look at one of these bad boys in person. The selle italia xo i have on there is quite small and you can imagine how uncomfortable it can be. I've never been a fan of small thin saddles. Hopefully i can check one out soon.
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Brooks Champion Flyer here. Basically a B-17 with springs. Love it. Riding on it is like riding on a sofa.

Downsides, however... just looked outside and it is going to start raining soon, so I had to find a plastic bag in my office and run down and put it over the saddle so it doesn't get saturated with rain. No big deal, I really should have done that when I got here anyway, however I had accidentally removed my plastic bag from my travel kit.
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I'm 6'0", 213 and I ride a brooks b17. Best saddle I ever had. I have tried many, no others worked. It seems really a simple choice for me. Thats my 2c after taxes.
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I have a pretty upright riding position as my saddle to bar drop is just about level, that's why i am thinking the b17 might be ok for me. I'm having a tough time finding somewhere in my area that carries them in stock to actually get a hands on feel and check them out.
Order one from Wall Bike. They have an extremely liberal return policy on Brooks saddles! FYI, my bars are at or slightly lower than my saddle...
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Order one from Wall Bike. They have an extremely liberal return policy on Brooks saddles! FYI, my bars are at or slightly lower than my saddle...
There is actually a LBS right next to my campus that is a brooks dealer and will price match wall bike and not charge me any shipping! So i lucked out finding them.
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Agree. I'm one of those people for whom the Brooks B17 just doesn't work. It felt to me like you'd need a pretty upright riding position for the B17 to be comfortable.
Huh...we have several LBS's here and each one has a thing you sit on to get measured. Only one sells Specialized stuff and the others that have the measuring device have different devices that all end up doing the same thing.

Without a slot in the seat I'd agree that it's going to work best for an upright position.
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Huh...we have several LBS's here and each one has a thing you sit on to get measured. Only one sells Specialized stuff and the others that have the measuring device have different devices that all end up doing the same thing.
Sure: you can sit on any random piece of foam, look at the indentations, and decide that your sit bones are so many millimeters apart. That information is pretty useless, however, since virtually every manufacturer has a different way of measuring and describing the saddles they sell. Think about it: if a manufacturer tells you that a saddle is 135mm wide, what does that mean exactly? That the piece of leather covering the saddle is 135mm wide? That the seating area is 135mm wide? That the saddle is 135mm wide at its widest point? All of these are possible and in use today.

Unless you know how a given manufacturer measures their saddles, knowing how far apart your sit bones are doesn't buy you very much...
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Unless you know how a given manufacturer measures their saddles, knowing how far apart your sit bones are doesn't buy you very much...
True enough. But, it does mean you can take the one fairly universal measurement available to everyone, and then approach the individual manufacturers seats with the question "My sit bones are at this measurement, how does that work with your sizing?"
Of course this depends upon the LBS staff knowing, or having access to, the relative sizing info, but it's better than having no idea whatsoever, imho at least.
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True enough. But, it does mean you can take the one fairly universal measurement available to everyone, and then approach the individual manufacturers seats with the question "My sit bones are at this measurement, how does that work with your sizing?"
Of course this depends upon the LBS staff knowing, or having access to, the relative sizing info, but it's better than having no idea whatsoever, imho at least.
Yup...or you can ask the manufacturer with a simple phone call.

I didn't think that needed to be said, but this *is* the internet.
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