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    thank you all for the suggestions. I have a great light for the top bars and one blinkie for the back. might need another blinkie but would like to get a head light for the helmet too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maidenfan View Post
    I have the new Niterider 600 newt - its a very nice package in a small, self contained unit. It comes with a good handlebar mount AND a easy to use helmet mount. The only real complaint is the battery life on high (600L) is about 1.5 hours, which is still useable for commuters. I use the light on medium (400L) and it lasts for 3+ hours and its plenty of light for city/suburb commuting. I like it so much I'm going to get another as I like light. I'd suggest buying the light at REI - you pay full price ($150) which isnt much more than the internet price (120 range) and you get the bombproof, take it back anytime for any reason warranty - well worth it in my opinion.
    Thanks for the review. I am an REI member so if I get the light REI will be the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
    thank you all for the suggestions. I have a great light for the top bars and one blinkie for the back. might need another blinkie but would like to get a head light for the helmet too.
    Here is an interesting lighting system for the helmet, that has connected head and tail lamps on the helmet: http://www.rei.com/product/808602/li...e-light-system

    Not hugely bright, but not bad, especially combined with your 300 lumen light you have on the bars. You won't blind drivers if you look at them. And, there is some sidelighting effect.

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    I have only had it out in the rain a few times once was a downpour I got caught in. Have had it in light drizzle numerous times. No issues though I would not intentionally dunk it in water I would believe that it is somewhat "water resistant" since it is made for off road cycling.

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    I hope I am contributing to and not hijacking the Chef's thread, but what do people do to make sure that they are visible from the side?

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    As Neil mentioned above there is two reasons for front facing lighting, to see and be seen. If you are riding at night in town with a fair amount of ambient lighting you can get by with lots of reflectors and cheaper front and rear lights. If you do night country riding as I do your lighting has to allow you to see and you have to adjust your speed not to exceed your lighting. I have Battery powered lighting that I normally carry on the bike one forward light and one rear rack mounted flasher and another on the back of the helmet, (flasher) I also have a head light I can mount to top of the helmet allowing light to go where you look. I also built a very bright recharge LED light (24 lights) from a work light I bough and modified. I donít take this light any long tours etc. but use it for late night rides and commutes. It will allow at least 6 hours of on time between charges is my guess. It throws a beam out there far enough I can ride at my normal pace.

    I really am big on reflecting light back to cars (reflective tapes) most light for being seen per pound you can get. I have large yellow panels on each pannier side and backs I have red. front rack I have white and I have the helmet striped with white and red tape.

    I know others have said different but I feel safer riding the berm at night than I do at day. I see cars slow way back at night and move much more left than they do at daytime. Kind of the shock factor of the lights and wondering what's up ahead. Thatís fine with me. Last fall I came to a complete stop and faced off with an 8 point buck about midnight. I was ready to jump off the bike if he charged but I switched the headlight off and he took that as being non aggressive I guess and moved off. The scarcest encounter I have had was hearing a pack of coyotes hunting something large in a corn field I passed. Made me rethink maybe taking along some spray.

    Here is what I do for light.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bud16415 View Post
    As Neil mentioned above there is two reasons for front facing lighting, to see and be seen. If you are riding at night in town with a fair amount of ambient lighting you can get by with lots of reflectors and cheaper front and rear lights. If you do night country riding as I do your lighting has to allow you to see and you have to adjust your speed not to exceed your lighting. I have Battery powered lighting that I normally carry on the bike one forward light and one rear rack mounted flasher and another on the back of the helmet, (flasher) I also have a head light I can mount to top of the helmet allowing light to go where you look. I also built a very bright recharge LED light (24 lights) from a work light I bough and modified. I don’t take this light any long tours etc. but use it for late night rides and commutes. It will allow at least 6 hours of on time between charges is my guess. It throws a beam out there far enough I can ride at my normal pace.

    I really am big on reflecting light back to cars (reflective tapes) most light for being seen per pound you can get. I have large yellow panels on each pannier side and backs I have red. front rack I have white and I have the helmet striped with white and red tape.

    I know others have said different but I feel safer riding the berm at night than I do at day. I see cars slow way back at night and move much more left than they do at daytime. Kind of the shock factor of the lights and wondering what's up ahead. That’s fine with me. Last fall I came to a complete stop and faced off with an 8 point buck about midnight. I was ready to jump off the bike if he charged but I switched the headlight off and he took that as being non aggressive I guess and moved off. The scarcest encounter I have had was hearing a pack of coyotes hunting something large in a corn field I passed. Made me rethink maybe taking along some spray.

    Here is what I do for light.



    I'm in love with your bike, Bud16415. Tell me about your pannier, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
    thank you all for the suggestions. I have a great light for the top bars and one blinkie for the back.
    Definitely get a second tail light. You never know when the one you have may have a battery go dead or fail in some other way. And, unlike with a headlight, you might not notice that your tail light has stopped working for some time. Good pedal/shoe/ankle reflectors are also very effective. I sewed some big reflective patches to the back of my cycling shoes and one night a friend who drove by a couple of us commented that he saw those even before he noticed our lights (we both had PB Superflashes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil_B View Post
    I've commuted and toured at night in the Philadelphia area and NJ. Latest I've been riding is 1:00 AM. When I've been out late I've tried to have lighting serve two purposes:

    - be seen
    - let me see

    To see, I used a Cygolite Night Rover dual beam light on the handlebar, and a Planet Bike helmet light. I might add a cheap light I carry as a backup if I'm concerned.

    To be seen, I had a blinker on the back of my rear rack, another on the saddle, and sometimes one on the back of my cycling jacket. (Some people ad another to the back of their helmet. If I was regularly commuting I'd do so too.) If I wasn't wearing my yellow jacket I was wearing a highway safety vest. In addition I might have a small blinker stuck whereever else I could put it. I put black reflective tape on my panniers, my helmet, and even on my shoes.

    The effect you want is to cause drivers to slow down as they say "what in the hell is THAT?!?"
    Oh, I forgot the reflective bands I put around my ankles. Also, the pannier I ride with have reflective strips sewn in.








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    reflective bands
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    Set F1re To The Ra1n ( NY Night Rain Ride)
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    I've been using the NiteRider MiNewt 350 cordless. The 350 seems bright enough at high for riding on a dark street at 15 mph but I wouldn't go much faster. The flash mode is plenty bright enough to be useful in daylight. It's small and recharges easily and fairly quickly on the computer's USB port. However, the mount seems a little flimsy (no problem with it yet) and battery life on full power is short -- rated at 1.5 hrs (which is about right) and when it does go you don't get a lot of warning. I always have 2 headlights, The NiteRider to illuminate the road, and a smaller non-rechargable light I leave on flash for visibility and have available as a spare if I lose my main light. I use multiple blinkies for the rear, one high and one low. I'd like to get a bright taillight for daytime use, lane sharing on blind downhill curves, sometimes with fog. Thinking of a DiNotte. Oh, and I almost always wear a high visibility yellow windbreaker.

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    http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp...Base:PS3660970

    I use the tri color ankle bands, the motion is a real attention grabber. Check out the far ankle band in my pic, noticeable as my headlights


    IMG_4399 by gulpxtreme, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil_B View Post
    I'm in love with your bike, Bud16415. Tell me about your pannier, please.
    HI Neil

    Thanks for the compliment I love her too even though it's been a rocky relationship at times. Little by little I keep trying ideas out on this bike and like it more and more. I do a little touring. Not as much as I would like and envy the people I see that never seem to have to work. So for me designing the changes to the bike was to build a dual purpose bike, or even a tri purpose bike. Thus the center basket in the rear that stays on full time and has the removable cooler. The basket is kind of the building block all the rest of the storage expands out from. I had to extend the mounting rails out from where a normal rack would be and the panniers are called bike bins ( bikebins.com ) it's a British company and were sold in the USA for a while, not sure if they still are. I was looking into getting some when I saw a guy selling a set on line and jumped on them he had them on a recumbent and I have no idea why he didn’t like them. 100% water tight and have a key lock. 1000 cubic inches each. The tops make a shelf that hold sleeping pad, tent etc and strap into the basket in such a way they flip up to open bin. The front rack is homemade and I plan on building the matching mate for the back. the front panniers not shown are GI issue special forces black fanny packs with hanger I made and added to them. and the top of the front rack holds a 4 season military sleep system. ( http://www.tennierindustries.com/rfi-mss.html ).

    Getting back on topic of lighting and being seen at night the bins come in colors and the yellow by itself shows up pretty good. I know with touring lots like to be stealthy. I would rather be seen on the road and if I need to hide the bike my camo poncho works. The bins worked well for a place to attach the 6 inch wide yellow reflective tape. As much as I don’t care for the spoke reflectors I left them on this bike as well.

    The point made about having at least two blinkers rear facing is really great. mine being under the rear rack I was always looking to see if it was still working when I added the one to the helmet I don’t worry about the other stopping.
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    I've got reflective tape on my top tube, seat tube, fork and fenders. My favorite warm long sleeve jersey is made by illuminite and has reflective stuff in it. I've usually go with reflective bands on my ankles and have a reflective vest (also hi viz) that I wear sometimes. I've got the magic shine front and rear set as well as an old cateye headlight and 2 PB superflash rears as backups. I used to have one on my helmet, but it annoyed me a lot and I don't do much night riding so I took it off. I might put it back on a helmet I don't like very well and just make that my night riding helmet. My helmet rain cover for when it's really cold and wet also has reflective stuff inside it.
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    p.s. those bike bin panniers look awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfinch View Post
    I hope I am contributing to and not hijacking the Chef's thread, but what do people do to make sure that they are visible from the side?
    Reflectors in the spokes. Tyres with a reflective strip. Reflective ankle bands. A Cateye 1100 rear light that has side lenses. SOLAS reflective tape on panniers, chain stays, seat stays. Reflective seams/decals on clothing.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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