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    Want to lose weight and get healthier?

    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Interesting read! One thing I wish they talked about a bit more:

    Those getting too little or too much sleep were less likely to have lost weight over the six-month period.
    (emphasis mine)

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    Yes, they seem uncertain as to whether sleeping more than 8 hours is merely an indicator of an existing underlying problem, or a problem in itself. Either way, it appears that around seven hours is ideal.

    I was particularly interested in the fact that sleep deprivation screws up the balance between appetite-inducing and appetite-spreading hormones, causing people to eat more.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    I've found sleeping about 7 hours is perfect for me.
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    Thanks for posting this, it's a timely reminder.

    But the advice only applies in the UK, right? I gather this from the url.
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Those who get sleep apnea treated tend to lose weight --- did not work for me. Therefore the whole concept is not a surprize to me!

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    They should mention that sleep apnea is a big sleep issue for many people and if you are waking up tired or your sleeping partner is well aware of your snoring maybe you should be screened for sleep apnea. Especially if you have high BP too. The loss of sleep from sleep apnea may contribute to difficulties in losing weight and the tendency to gain weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    Thanks for posting this, it's a timely reminder.

    But the advice only applies in the UK, right? I gather this from the url.
    Yes, you're right. Of course since you are 8 hours behind us, you probably need to go to bed 8 hours earlier. I should have pointed that out. LOL
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    I find 7 hours is the right amount for me.

    Being treated for sleep apena will NOT solve weight issues but it WILL give you more energy throughout the day.

    Example: Two years ago (many more before that as well), I would get "solid" sleep, get up, shower, eat and drive an hour into work, fighting to stay awake and yes, I did fall asleep at the wheel many times. I wouldnt have the energy to go work out. That patter happened a lot and I would take naps to try to recover from the "solid" sleep I thought I had. Finally, one morning I fell asleep at the week a half mile from work, popped my wheel on the sidewalk and almost hit a person and a poll. That was the day I made the journey to fixing my sleep apena. Did all the tests, got a CPAP and sleep so darn good every night. I have the energy to do things at wotk, before work, after work, etc. Love the feeling.

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    Treating Sleep Apnea may or may not aid in weight loss (I really don't know), but weight loss definitely has positive effects on Sleep Apnea (this I DO know). Typically, if you can lose about 10% of your body weight, you can solve the Apnea problem. I've got a CPAP machine that's been collecting dust for about 5 years because I no longer need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Pedaler View Post
    Treating Sleep Apnea may or may not aid in weight loss (I really don't know), but weight loss definitely has positive effects on Sleep Apnea (this I DO know). Typically, if you can lose about 10% of your body weight, you can solve the Apnea problem. I've got a CPAP machine that's been collecting dust for about 5 years because I no longer need it.

    True for some, certainly not true for all. I went from obese to normal weight. I still have sleep apnea. I also continue to have high enough BP that it needs treatment. However, it is now normal with treatment where it was creeping up before. My cholesterol numbers are almost identical to what they were when I was my fattest. I still need statins. It was a bummer to realize that losing weight was not a cure for these chronic problems.

    But I feel good, sleep well, and have way more energy than I did when I was fat. I am happy with that.

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    Goldfinch, you're right. That's why I said "Typically". There are few Golden Rules when it comes to a lot of health care issues. Everybody is a little different.

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    I too am overweight and have sleep apnea. Which came first I don't know but I am hoping this cpap machine will make a difference. I have developed low bone density and low testosterone as well. I never knew sleep apnea caused so many issues. Originally I refused to go get tested, but I felt so tired had to do something.

    I will figure this thing out and lose weight. My son was watching me bench press, and he was really impressed with how much I was benching. I told him my bench would be going down as I lost weight. He thought I was crazy to lose weight. I told him losing body fat at my age was far more important then what you can bench. It took me getting here to realize it.

    I plan to be a lean mean riding machine.

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    cman: if you can, try to join a sleep apena forum. It helped me a lot. Also.... see if you can stay over for the sleep test. Try the nose attachment and also the nose and mouth. It will depend on how you breath. My dad has a CPAP too and he breathes through is nose but I breakth through my mouth. The nose one didnt work for me.

    I love my CPAP. I get the best nights sleeps.

    At first it is hard to get used to... the mask that is but you will get used to it. And you will love. it. Let me know if you have any questions.

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