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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 10-05-11, 07:59 AM   #1
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another FREAKING flat tire

I'm PISSED.

And I just don't get it ... I put brand new Continental Ultra Sports on my Fulcrum Racing 7s and last night, for the second time in a month, I flatted. Was so mad I didn't even bother messing with it last night, so I don't know what caused it, but I'm assuming a pinch flat.

Was doing 10 miles of intervals, had just completed two sets, and I know during the second set as I was suffering I rolled over something that jarred me pretty good, but I didn't think anything of it. Felt ok so I was going to do a third set and after my first interval, during recovery, I was taking a turn and felt the back tire being squishy. I sat up and looked, bounced a little and sure enough, it was going flat.

I swapped out the tube, limped home but seriously, this is ridiculous.

I bought the tires at REI, so I'm contemplating taking them back. I know I'm a big guy, we're harder on tires, etc ... but it took me more than a thousand miles and a camoflagued nail to flat on my stock Bontrager tires. Something isn't adding up
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Old 10-05-11, 08:10 AM   #2
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I rolled over something that jarred me pretty good.

Objects on the road can contain screws, nails, and staples.
Don't blame the tire.

Flats and wind are part of riding.
I now have had 90 flats, Learn how to fix them and ride on.

I ran over something two weeks ago that caused this on my rear tire.

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Old 10-05-11, 08:14 AM   #3
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I know how to fix them ... and what I rolled over was likely a rock.

Of course they're a fact of life ... but two flats in less than a month?
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Old 10-05-11, 08:19 AM   #4
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I have had many rides with 3 flats.

The guy on the purple bike had 8 flats in one day.

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Try 5 flats in a day before you start complaining.
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Old 10-05-11, 08:20 AM   #6
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It's nice to know somebody out there is on the working end of the law of averages on my behalf.


Me: 11 months of riding, 4k+ miles, no flats.

Running: The Conti TownRides my schwinn came with. (OEM-only product; similar to conti CityRide, I'd guess)
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Old 10-05-11, 08:26 AM   #7
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We are all nuts; we buy lightweight racing tires and then we complain about flats. If we were getting flats road riding our 26 x 2.4 Holy Rollers, then we'd have something to complain about.
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I know how to fix them ... and what I rolled over was likely a rock.

Of course they're a fact of life ... but two flats in less than a month?
This one was from a rock:
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Old 10-05-11, 09:15 AM   #9
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Of course they're a fact of life ... but two flats in less than a month?
Consider yourself lucky: like 10 Wheels, I've had 3 flats in a single ride! Two flats in a month is slightly unlucky, but not something I'd be complaining about...

If you don't want to get flats, you need to buy tires with good puncture protection and keep them inflated to the proper pressure. If you're a Clyde, that probably means checking and adjusting the pressure before every ride. For puncture protection, I've had pretty good luck with Continental's Ultra Gatorskin. If you need a 700x32 or larger tire, I like the Vittoria Randonneur Pro. If you ride in the rain frequently, there may be tires that offer better wet weather traction than the Gatorskin.
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Old 10-05-11, 09:18 AM   #10
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Sorry to hear about the tire madness. There isn't much that's worse than stopping to deal with a flat when you're supposed to be out riding. Well, one thing that's worse, and I'm not happy to say this from personal experience, is having to fix a flat after you've rolled through goose ****. Even ten miles later, it doesn't roll completely off.

How are the wheels treating you?

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We are all nuts; we buy lightweight racing tires and then we complain about flats. If we were getting flats road riding our 26 x 2.4 Holy Rollers, then we'd have something to complain about.
If we were just riding 26x2.4s, we'd have something to complain about.
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I've had three flats in one ride too ...

Wheels are treating me great. Love them ... just not real fond of the tires I chose.
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Old 10-05-11, 09:47 AM   #12
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I had three flats on the first 20 miles of a ride once. And I was running Conti Ultra Sports (the tires that came on the bike). My wife's bike came with the same tires and she was flatting quite often with them (almost 10x the number of flats I had over the course of a couple of years and she seldom rode without me). Changed to Gatorskins and the number of flats has gone way down.
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Old 10-05-11, 10:11 AM   #13
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Wow, I thought I had a bad case of Flattireitis until I read about having multiple flats on a single ride

I've had 3 flats in the last 6 rides

I do check my tired pressure before each ride and ensure that I am at max pressure. That tactic worked for the first ~750 miles of riding but in the last week nothing seems to keep me from flatting.

I'm headed to the Bike Store tomorrow to get new tires for one bike since the cause of the flat on that bike was sidewall failure on the stock rear tire. So, my bike budget plus some has been spent on building flat repair kits for both bikes and now getting new tires for one. I'm bummed cause I was going to have the Bike Store upgrade my single crank to a triple for an increased gear range.

Yesterday, I did learn that I can change the tube in the rear tire of my old Schwinn on the road. So that is a good thing. I just gotta make sure that I have patch kits for those days where there may be more than one flat a ride.
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Old 10-05-11, 11:22 AM   #14
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As noted, I wouldn't blame the make and model of tire just yet. What caused your flats might have caused flats in many other makes and models.
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Old 10-05-11, 11:28 AM   #15
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As noted, I wouldn't blame the make and model of tire just yet. What caused your flats might have caused flats in many other makes and models.
I started on $10 tires and went 3,000 mile before I had a flat.

Flats are just Pure Luck.
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Old 10-05-11, 11:37 AM   #16
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Old 10-05-11, 12:32 PM   #17
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I bought the tires at REI, so I'm contemplating taking them back. I know I'm a big guy, we're harder on tires, etc
Take them back! To be honest, I've tried the Ulta Sport but they are the bottom of the barrel Conti junk. I flatted too often with them. First one I bought maybe a fluke. Second one a year later, total junk, I just tossed it.

If you want a decent Conti tire, you have to go with the Ultra Race at a minimum.

But prices are outrageous now. Ultra sport used to be $12 an the Race level was $20. Now the Race has gone up to $35, that's ridiculous.

That is one reason why I used the serfas Seca wire bead from REI ($24). I had good results till the last two. I did speak with my friend at the LBS (manager) who said they had a few riders return the tires with the same separating issue that I had. According to him, the rep said thy knew there was some issue and they were fixing it. I will return to the Secas but after a period of a month or two with hopes that they solve the problem and let bad stock run through the system.
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Old 10-05-11, 12:51 PM   #18
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I think that's my underlying issue here ... the tires just don't "feel" right ... I'm constantly freaked out about flats and concerned about durability
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Old 10-05-11, 12:59 PM   #19
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Just a suggestion:

I have never done this myself on bicycle tires, but apparently others have.

You could just get an old tire, trim the bead off of it and use it as a liner for your tire. Any thing that you run over would have to puncture both before the tube would be at risk.
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If you want a decent Conti tire, you have to go with the Ultra Race at a minimum.

But prices are outrageous now.
If you want good prices on Conti tires, you need to order them from Europe. REI sells GP4000s for the same price as all the local bike shops I know of in town: $75 per tire. I bought four of them from Ribble.co.uk for $37 each (that includes shipping) recently.
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The only flats Ive had lately have been from over inflation (with a crappy rim liner) and a single TINY piece of glass that got stuck in the bead. When I get a flat, I make sure that whatever caused it is no longer in the tire. I usually roll the tire back and forth (from bead to bead) to find the real small stuff if I cant find it inside the casing. It always helps to diagnose the problem before just throwing in a new tube and pumping it up again.
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Get better, more puncture resistant tires.
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I'm PISSED.

And I just don't get it ... I put brand new Continental Ultra Sports on my Fulcrum Racing 7s and last night, for the second time in a month, I flatted. Was so mad I didn't even bother messing with it last night, so I don't know what caused it, but I'm assuming a pinch flat.
Gatorskins, GP 4 seasons, and presumably GP4000 tires (they have a Vectran layer too) are all more flat resistant and ride better.

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I bought the tires at REI, so I'm contemplating taking them back. I know I'm a big guy, we're harder on tires, etc ... but it took me more than a thousand miles and a camoflagued nail to flat on my stock Bontrager tires. Something isn't adding up
Chance has a lot to do with it. Tire wire can flatten even puncture resistant tires.
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If you want good prices on Conti tires, you need to order them from Europe. REI sells GP4000s for the same price as all the local bike shops I know of in town: $75 per tire. I bought four of them from Ribble.co.uk for $37 each (that includes shipping) recently.

I use the GP's on Gina's bike since she gets really good mileage out of them. I'll have to look into that site, good price, we paid $64 at our local LBS. But that might have been a year ago, had it sitting in the closet and installed it 2 weeks ago as I plan ahead at times

But I don't use them on my bikes since most of my riding is fun training rides. I'll get "maybe" 2000 miles out of a GP4000 where as Gina gets 4000 miles. If I can't use a Serfas type, I will use an Armadillo. Yeah, lots of people say they are too heavy for climbing and feel slow but I'm climbing and 5000 miles out of a tire without a flat is worth the $45. 2000 miles out of a $65 tire, not for me. Gina's 4000 miles yes but not me.

But I will take a look at that site.


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What PSI were you running your tires at?

Get some Gatorskins
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