After being a tight azz and one determined to fix my own things, I went against my rules and got a bike fitting. Reason, my shoulders, hands and lower back are killing me, especially after completing my first century.
I learned a lot, first thing is that my body resembles an ape, long torso and skinny short legs, the fitter used a better description though. He pointed out that the current specs kept me all scrunched up and it inflamed the aformentioned muscles. He dialed in my legs first, by adjusting my seat back and aligning my knees to the pedal shaft (balls of feet). Second adjustment dealt with cockpit, he put a 130mm stem on and placed upwards. He messed with my cleats a little but said they were ok, my eyeballs got that one right at least. Now I am in a more upright position but stretched out, more of my weight is supported by my buttocks instead of my hands and shoulders.
Hopefully this will give me more comfort.
After all these drastic adjustments I asked if the bike was the right size, yes it is. A 58cm jams up into my boys pretty good (actually have to tip-toe a little) even though my apelike torso would want it, 56cm is the right size he stated, just have to stretch it out.
Figure 30 miles tomorrow will give me an idea if it works, will report my findings.
Oh, just in case someone asks - couple mm under 6 ft tall, 225 weight