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Old 11-21-11, 07:01 PM   #1
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Goathead proof tires?

Ok my fellow clydes and athenas hows it going? Went for a nice 7-8 mile ride today and found a nice park I didnt know about with some nice bbqs, picnic tables, and coverings? Ok ok back on topic. Well on the way back from this nice ride I cross the street and stop wanting to just check on my tires. Lo and behold I have 3 big and nasty goatheads in my rear tire and 4 in my front At least 2 went in far enough to puncture my rear tire and Im guessing at least 1 punctured the front too! What is the strongest most d@mned goathead-proof tire out there? I dont mind if its heavy, rolls slow, or even looks kind of funny, or all of the above just need a way not to use up a patch kit on a single ride. Even thinking about buying those inserts between the tire and tube though Im not sure about those at my weight but I am willing. Thanks for any help all! Oh and who would you all say makes really good patches? Right now using park tools glueless and thinking about ordering some rema patchs too.

edit: Argh this is so annoying. Hopefully Im wrong and its just 2 in the back and 1 in the front otherwise Ill have run out of patches for now and cant ride until I pick some up. Murphy's Law strikes! Before didnt have a patch kit was getting back into riding not a single thorn,goathead, or piece of glass. Get kit a few days later big(more than a 1/4" maybe 1/2" long thorn) goathead then this.

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Old 11-21-11, 07:10 PM   #2
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Stay out of the goatheads, but I've had luck with the Specialized Armadillo's. There are some good liners also.
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Old 11-21-11, 07:15 PM   #3
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I would if I could. We have goatheads everywhere here. On trails, on the roads, sidewalks, and I dont know how but Ive found a frigging goathead in my bathroom once...in the bathtub! No idea how it got there
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Old 11-21-11, 07:55 PM   #4
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Walmart has some SUPER DUPER heavy innertubes that I had good luck with. Made Climbing hills suicidal though...
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What parts of the country have these horrifying thorns?
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Im in arizona and theyre literally everywhere
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I have never seen these.
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Old 11-21-11, 08:27 PM   #8
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These evil things
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I put these on a friends and his wifes bike some time ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slime-Smart-...item3f102fb836

They had cruiser bikes and I don' think they rode that much so I don't think they really needed it.
But WOW were they HEAVY! Reviews seem to be love it or hate it, but some mentioned not having to
change a tire for 2 years in "goat head" territory.

I put slime in my tubes (via the stem) but found out in freezing temps -5C and below it froze the valve open and it gave me flats.
But if you use slime in above freezing temps i think it works.

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I prefer Mr Tuffy. Run whatever tire you want.



I used to run slime in my MTB tires when I lived in AZ. The stuff isn't very useful in road tires, however.
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What kind of tires do you have? You are definitely going to want to look at something with a kevlar belt, for example: Panaracer Pasela Tourgaurds are popular tires with great puncture resistance.

Also, those self-stick/"glueless" patches don't usually seem to work as well as a real patch kit. Rema is a good brand, but I've honestly had no problems with any that I've tried, even some dirt-cheap generics.

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I am so glad that didn't have anything to do with a sack....

I have been using hard case, Kevlar (or w/e it is now) lined Bontrager Race Lites for a while now with no issues...now, there haven't been any "natures kaltrips" down either.
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My experience:

Specialized Armadillo tires - heavy, very heavy, and extremely effective.

Thorn resistant tube - heavy, and very effective.

Tire liners - extremely effective

Slime (and similar sealants) - gives about 100 yards after puncture before the tire is flat, and very difficult to patch.

Our riding is local streets, I commute 12 miles each way to/from work on city streets and some paths. All our tires have liners, all tubes are thorn resistant, tires are various brands of puncture resistant.
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Slime (and similar sealants) - gives about 100 yards after puncture before the tire is flat, and very difficult to patch.
Agreed. It's a good idea, in theory, but there seems to be more annoyance than help as far as that stuff is concerned. It's easier to just bring some spare tubes and/or a proper patch kit.
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Slime (and similar sealants) - gives about 100 yards after puncture before the tire is flat, and very difficult to patch.
Slime worked great for me in MTB tires. And you can patch a tube but it takes at least 5 minutes extra preparation. You have to squeeze all the slime away from the puncture. It takes a long time, lots of toothpaste squeezing motion over and over, 'til the area is completely slime free.
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They are quite common here in TX. I had several punctured tires over the summer running lightweight tires and standard tubes.

Specialized Armadillo tires no flat problems. Mr Tuffy tire liners no flat problems.
Tried slime tubes, hated them.
It was overkill to run both the armadillos and tire liners with a slime tube.

I will switch from my lightweight tires back to the Armadillos pretty soon to avoid flats on solo cold dark rides when having a flat is a bigger problem than a flat during a group daylight ride with warmer temperatures.
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Old 11-24-11, 09:21 AM   #19
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http://share.ovi.com/media/currentre...resident.10076 If goat heads are your only problem then you don't need kevlar belted tires. Goat heads will go through kevlar tire liners and most tires use kevlar fabric. You need 6 mm total thickness a thick tire and a thorn tube. In Boise we used a tire inside a tire one with the bead cut off. You can also use a cut inner tube as a tire liner. It is illegal for any city to allow any plant to grow that can puncture a wheelchair inner tube under the Americans with disability act. This plant is also listed as an invasive species by the department of agriculture. Mention this to your city. I stand by the road and photograph the police with the plant they usually stop a few threats against the police and the plant gets removed..
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If there was only a few that would be a good idea but as it is Id say its impossible without a huge amount of money. Im talking double or triple digit millions as they grow literally everywhere in arizona. But I think Ill try the inner tube idea or mr tuffy.
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