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    Best "To see" light?

    Right now I have a mars 2.0 front head light with the red mars click rear light. The front light is a great "to be seen" light, but it provides very little light so I can see during the night. As far as the rear light goes.. well.. it sucks. It's very small, it's not very bright, and the clip has already snapped.

    I am looking to spend about $75 on a light set. I hear the cherry bomb is a great rear light, but I am not sure which front light to get. The trail I ride on is about 15-20 feet wide with dark trenches on the side. I might just buy a front light and stick with my rear light if that lights up the trail so I can see the road and the trenches.
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    Hi mate,

    Little bit more than you are looking at ,
    http://www.lezyne.com/led-lights#panel-1
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lezyne-super...d-front-light/

    But shop around because i got mine for 115 aus dollars which is a lot cheaper than that wiggle place.


    The super drive model, i use it for night riding along a twisty bike path at night . So far has been great, USB charge is what i like most =) .

    To see light i found cost a fair be more but seem to be well worth it .

    Also i checked the battery can buy new ones for 20 or after market knock offs for 10 . so i will grab a few and let you know .
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    This is the light I use. Great bang for the buck. http://www.amazon.com/NiteRider-600-.../dp/B005DNXXL2

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    The two watt "Blaze" by Planet Bike is a pretty good light, too. Most of my riding is on rural unlit roads in the pre-dawn hours. I have a pair of these mounted on my tops and they provide more than enough light to see by. The lights are on quick release mounts so, if you have to stop someplace and leave your bike unattended for a few minutes, you can simply slide the lights off and carry them with you.

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    These are like riding in the day light i am out in the dark every day on my commute and these have served me well.

    http://www.amazon.com/MagicShine-MJ-.../dp/B004QNZKE8

    My Tail light has a 1/2 mile viability
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    I had a PB Blaze 2W & 1W (ran 2W in steady/1W in flash) but recently went with a pair of these:
    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ssc-p7-...x-18650-104288
    And run 1 in steady and 1 in flash. Lots more light than the PB Blaze 2W.

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    Planet Bike and Shimano also have handlebar mounted lights, that run a wire down to a hub dynamo.

    so there is no drained battery issue.

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    here's my 2 cents for Magicshine
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    best bang for the buck magicshine and this is from a us seller.. bought one and was at my door 3 days later..

    http://www.amazon.com/Cree-Xm-l-1200...668598&sr=1-17

    Tailight - I use superflash or cherrybomb is good light too and is right at your pricepoint..

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    I like the magicshine I bought from Action LED on ebay. Should be in your price range.

    http://www.action-led-lights.com/collections/bike
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    I use an Eagletac T20C2 MkII. It's.... awesome.



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    Bang for buck (and good quality) Magicshine.l

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    For the brightest front light, and not considering other aspects like build quality, just buy the light that offers the most lumens for the money. I've got one that puts out 900 lumens that I can only use on it's lowest setting during group rides, because if it is on the high setting the riders in front of me think a car is behind them. For the rear light the PB Superflash is a great product.

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    Try to get any CREE led that you can. Normal-style LEDs just don't deliver the visibility and lumen output of the newer CREE technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCityCyclist View Post
    For the brightest front light, and not considering other aspects like build quality, just buy the light that offers the most lumens for the money. I've got one that puts out 900 lumens that I can only use on it's lowest setting during group rides, because if it is on the high setting the riders in front of me think a car is behind them. For the rear light the PB Superflash is a great product.
    One caveat regarding lumens, make sure they're using the same ratings. Many of the Asian manufacturers and websites will list "max" lumens which can be 2 to 3 times higher than what some domestic lights are rated at. The actual output of a 900 lumen rated Magic Shine is really only about 400 lumens, but is still a great value for a light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dehoff View Post
    One caveat regarding lumens, make sure they're using the same ratings. Many of the Asian manufacturers and websites will list "max" lumens which can be 2 to 3 times higher than what some domestic lights are rated at. The actual output of a 900 lumen rated Magic Shine is really only about 400 lumens, but is still a great value for a light.
    This is very very true,
    http://www.light-reviews.com/

    Those guys do ok reviews, but still take everything with a pinch of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dehoff View Post
    One caveat regarding lumens, make sure they're using the same ratings. Many of the Asian manufacturers and websites will list "max" lumens which can be 2 to 3 times higher than what some domestic lights are rated at. The actual output of a 900 lumen rated Magic Shine is really only about 400 lumens, but is still a great value for a light.
    The MTBR review stated it was around 700 lumens. Which I believe is true.
    And alot of other name brand lights are under their stated brightness as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbg View Post
    The MTBR review stated it was around 700 lumens. Which I believe is true.
    And alot of other name brand lights are under their stated brightness as well.

    If you're talking about the Magic Shine 808 which uses a P7 emitter, the true theoretical maximum output of the emitter is 700 lumens and they'd have a difficult time keeping the light housing cool or getting decent runtimes at that output. Thrown in the fact that only 80% of the light from the emitter actually makes it out the front, in addition there's plenty of losses from the plastic lens and reflector, and the light that actual makes it through the lens is closer to 400 lumens.

    Regardless, just make sure you're comparing apples to apples. The easiest way is to compare lights that use the same emitters and similar housings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Pedaler View Post
    The two watt "Blaze" by Planet Bike is a pretty good light, too. Most of my riding is on rural unlit roads in the pre-dawn hours. I have a pair of these mounted on my tops and they provide more than enough light to see by. The lights are on quick release mounts so, if you have to stop someplace and leave your bike unattended for a few minutes, you can simply slide the lights off and carry them with you.
    I have a PB 1 watt and two watt blaze and they are not in the same league as my Magic shine 808..... i also use a magic shine mj818 tailight and its bright enough to be used as a seen light during the daytime.

    some of my buddies have dinotte tailights and they are brighter than my MJ818 but they are a bit more expemensive

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    The problem with "lumens" is the average rider doesn't have the equipment or expertise to rate lights, therefore manufacturers can say whatever they want. However, the cool thing is that we have each other - here at the forums we have real cyclists that use these lights all the time, so there is a very strong consensus on what works and what does not. There is a strong group of advocates for bar-mounted flashlights; some have posted pictures and they're pretty impressive, and are very easy on the wallet. There's a lot of Magic Shine people too, which is also a very good product. Dinotte users abound also - a USA manufactured light that has an excellent reputation, outstanding customer service and a nice website. I use NiteRider lighting (I have a pair of MiNewt 600 Cordless on my handlebar) and there are a lot of us NR users here too. Point is, these lighting discussions could (and frequently do) go on and on - but the choice is up to you OP, and the information is here. My recommendation would be to go with NiteRider (because that's what I use) - the 600s I have are currently about $110 on Amazon, and about $150 at your LBS and are amazing. However, everyone else's recommendations are just as valid. One thing, though - Get something with a Cree in it! Cree is state of the art in led's these days!
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    Yes, the Electronics, Lighting, and Gadgets forum here is a great resource along with the candlepower forums to learn about lighting.

    Personally, I like having my MagicShine mounted on the handlebars along with a flashlight either on my helmet or also on the bars depending on the situation.

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