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Old 05-22-12, 11:01 AM   #1
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Tired Legs and Clipless = First Battle Scar

This past weekend I did some good riding. On Saturday did about 36 miles but pretty flat. I rode at a pretty good pace, my best yet (15.1 mph average). The organizer of the group I ride with invited me to do the hilly Palos Verdes Loop with her. We got to the Trump gold course in PV at about the 20 mile mark. Between the riding the day before and the hills and miles on Sunday, I admit my legs were a tad tired. I was hydrating with both H2O and NUUN enhanced H20, plus Powerbar Energy Blasts and Welch's fruit snacks during the ride.

At the golf course, I fell over twice. Once in the parking lot because I was going too slow and tried to do too tight a turn to turn around...and went down. No biggie, more embarassing than anything.

So we eat a bit and hydrate, then decide to take off. I mentioned something sounded funny on my bike but wasn't sure if I was just hearing things. We go up the hill to get to the parking area from where the restroom is....and go to turn left off the path to the parking area and BAM! I go down. I don't know what happened. This time the bike got scratched up pretty good...and I got some road rash on my left shin and a bruise on my left hip.

The chain came off the crank at some point (LBS said it was not the reason I fell....I'm not so sure as I had heard an odd noise before and after we got the chain back on and inspected the bike...I heard no more odd noises the rest of the ride...Hmmmmm) We finished the rest of the ride (about 32 miles total for Sunday...with lots of climbing for me).

Here is the bike: (I felt for cracks in the frame immediately and did a visual....) Don't feel a crack and will have my dealer do a more thorough check before I go riding again, but I think it is OK, just looks terrible. I was nearly in tears.


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Sorry to hear that. It will get easier with time. My wife clipped in for the first time, fell twice in 12 miles, has not been on the bike since...
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Bummer, but the first scratch had to happen. Glad you're ok and not letting it keep you off the bike. You're wise to have it checked, but I would think that's more for your peace of mind than anything. I don't think you'll find any problem and that Trek will offer you many years and many miles of great memories and stories.
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Sorry to hear that. Someone once told me that scratches are just a sign of life. So I rejoice!

After a hard ride, make sure to recover properly. Post ride recovry is very important and often not taken seriously.
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Won't keep me off the bike....
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Sorry to hear that. It will get easier with time. My wife clipped in for the first time, fell twice in 12 miles, has not been on the bike since...
Falling tends to change a persons mind about the purported virtues clipless.........
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It happens. Bikes are supposed to have battlescars anyhow. It shows that you ride it!!!
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I've yet to spill on my SPDs. Part of the reason is I feel it would leave me with a permanent disability. Also. I'm not interested in an achey bone notifying me every time it's about to rain. I've had a couple close calls, though.
One last week when we set off to late and ended up riding home in the dark. I didn't see the gooden gate clocking cars from turning onto the bike path until I was about 3 feet away from it. Luckily I avoided it and my natural spastic flail happened to match the motion required to unclip. I survided that incident but had a closer call when I was riding along a road, lost focus for one second and found myself in the grass on the side of the road heading toward a shallow ditch with tall grass veiling what deadly obstacals might be at the bottom. Luckily I was able to slow down without loosing control and remembered to unclip just before I came to a stop again, avoiding a life altering incident.
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People fall on platform pedals too, not to mention toe clips.

Matter of fact, my most embarassing fall ever was with toe clips.

You could avoid falling by walking too.
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I had a clip-out fail a couple of weeks ago. First one ever. Between climbing a very short but very steep hill and trying to unclip my right foot (leg with no hamstring), I just didn't have the strength to twist, even though my pedals are setup very loose. Over I went. Oh well. Gave the guy standing there a good laugh. Note to self....unclip left from now on, at least until my right leg figures out what it's doing.
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People fall on platform pedals too, not to mention toe clips.

Matter of fact, my most embarassing fall ever was with toe clips.

You could avoid falling by walking too.
I don't know people ages here, but to date myself, I rode a LOT in high school. This was before "clipless" pedals. We wore hard soled shoes that had a groove cut in the bottom. That grove dropped over the trailing edge of platform pedals, then the to strap locked your foot in. There was no unclipping. You had to unstrap. If you had the strap tight enough, and you didn't unstrap, your foot was NOT coming out of that cage, no matter what. I never toppled, but my friend/riding partner fell over behind me quite a bit. It stopped surprising me after a while.
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My worst fall actually happened on my MTB as I was approaching my home. I was trying to open my garage door as I approached on the sidewalk so I could ride right in...but it was not opening...and my Xterra in the driveway sitting across the sidewalk was fast approaching...so I hit the brakes hard. In my mind, it was the rear brakes as on my motorcycle the front brake is operated by my right hand so in my head my left hand was operating the "rear" on the bike. Unfortunately I was wrong. My left was operating the FRONT brake which normally I know when I am riding the bicycle. I went over the handlebars. The bar ends I had on my bike went into my leg and I broke one of them. I had a nasty bruise but no other injuries. I got lucky. This was a totally unclipped accident too.

The clipless pedals were not truly the issue here IMHO. It was my inexperience riding a road bike (only have had it since April 6) and my being a bit tired.
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Some people re-route their cables to match those of their motorcycle.

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Interesting. Only thing is that on a motorcycle the rear brake is your right foot...

My true issue was that I was fiddling with the garage remote with my right hand and only had my left hand on the grips. I will leave them as is as I don't see that happening again...Ha Ha Ha
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I don't know people ages here, but to date myself, I rode a LOT in high school. This was before "clipless" pedals. We wore hard soled shoes that had a groove cut in the bottom. That grove dropped over the trailing edge of platform pedals, then the to strap locked your foot in. There was no unclipping. You had to unstrap. If you had the strap tight enough, and you didn't unstrap, your foot was NOT coming out of that cage, no matter what. I never toppled, but my friend/riding partner fell over behind me quite a bit. It stopped surprising me after a while.
My Trek 500 (1983) had the type of pedals that used that sort of road shoe/clip. I never had bike shoes until after I moved to California and I got a pair to wear while riding. I rode the SGRT back in 1989-1993 when I had those shoes. And so I know what you are talking about. Guess that tells you a bit how old I am. Ha Ha Ha....

I also NEVER fell over EVER on that bike clipped in or not.

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my natural spastic flail happened to match the motion required to unclip.



Trojan: "People fall on platform pedals too"

-Oh HELL YEAH! Cant tell you the amount of times I completely racked myself on my BMX bike as a kid. Plus there was the old kick-the-crank-around shin destroyer. I have had WAY more accidents with platform pedals. In fact I have had infinitely more problems with platforms because I haven't had a signle SPD accident yet. (How is that for tempting fate?)
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And if we want to go back to when I was a kid...on my single speed imitation Schwinn a friend and I were riding double down a the street and both of us were pedalling...we got going too fast, her foot came off and kicked mine off...into the front wheel. Over we went. I had road rash all over my abdomen...she landed mostly on me and got a scraped hand. She was balling her eyes out and I was really scared she was really hurt. She went home and I walked my bike home (was unrideable due to damage to front wheel/fork). I parked the bike, went inside to my room and WAITED for the call from her mom to mine telling on me. The call never came...thank goodness...my mom would have skinned me alive. I never rode that bike again. I didn't want to get in trouble for "breaking it" and so it sat. We moved shortly after and I let the movers take the blame for the damage when we got to where we moved to. (I was 10)
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We moved shortly after and I let the movers take the blame for the damage when we got to where we moved to. (I was 10)


When we choose to travel on two wheels we accept that the danger of falling is just part of the deal. We can work on our bike handling skills and be careful, but we WILL fall down, at some point. Glad you're OK. Sorry about the bike! But now the worst is over - the first good (bad!) scratch. As I get older I have to say that trikes hold more and more appeal for me!
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Nobody likes a crusader.
Or someone who hijacks every pedal thread to perpetuate the crusade.

Nightshade--we all know your feelings by now. You're entitled to them. Most of the rest of us are tired of you beating this dead horse. Please stop hijacking these threads.
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Most people do it not because of motorcycles, but because they are right-handed and the front brake is much more powerful than the rear.
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Trojan: "People fall on platform pedals too"

-Oh HELL YEAH! Cant tell you the amount of times I completely racked myself on my BMX bike as a kid. Plus there was the old kick-the-crank-around shin destroyer. I have had WAY more accidents with platform pedals. In fact I have had infinitely more problems with platforms because I haven't had a signle SPD accident yet. (How is that for tempting fate?)
Yeah. Honestly I've smarted my shins so much with platforms, I'll gladly take the 2 minor falls I've had in clipless over nearly bi-daily shin crushings.
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Or someone who hijacks every pedal thread to perpetuate the crusade.

Nightshade--we all know your feelings by now. You're entitled to them. Most of the rest of us are tired of you beating this dead horse. Please stop hijacking these threads.
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Whatever thrill being a complete tool on every thread gets you, get over it & either grow up, shut up or go away. It's tiresome.
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I started my "serious" cycling in the late '80s with cheap thin leather Detto Pietro shoes with cleats that you had to drill holes for in the soles. The cleat had a straight slot running across it, which mated with the trailing edge of the pedal, plus toe clips and straps to cinch everything down nice and tight. Every time I'd start up I'd reach down to pull the straps tight, and every time I came to a stop I'd reach down to loosen them. Coming from that background, I was on those first-generation Looks like white on rice. What a godsend. I've never had a second thought since, other than to occasionally debate which different brand/style/format to go with.

As far as Nightshade's crusade is concerned, I'd ask that everyone lighten up a little, please. The forum is an open marketplace of ideas. Each of us has their own preferences, and we all espouse them enthusiastically.
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As far as Nightshade's crusade is concerned, I'd ask that everyone lighten up a little, please. The forum is an open marketplace of ideas. Each of us has their own preferences, and we all espouse them enthusiastically.
Agree. I have seen previous posts with his opinion and I can see his point. I certainly did not take offense to his posting on this thread.
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