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    question about edge 800

    I was wondering if you can put an address into the Garmin and it will tell you where to go. I cannot figure out how to do that. I have the address and I would like to plug it into the Garmin .

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    I don't think so... I don't have mine with me and I'm out of town until 28 June. Unless anyone else replies, I'll test then...

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    Yes you can...it may require the map chip as that's what I have

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    Yes, you can... if you've purchased the upgraded maps from Garmin. Pages 28 and 29 of your user manual will tell you how to enter an address. You can download the manual from Garmin, if necessary.

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    (1) I've never tried it (never had a need), but I think what you do is go to the menu, then courses, and one of the options is address. I don't have my Garmin with me, but I'll try to remember (and probably forget) to check this evening.

    (2) You probably need the map to do this, if you don't have it, but it doesn't have to be the Garmin map.

    FYI, the Edge 800 is about $650, at least on Google, and it comes with an HRM, a cadence sensor, and the map data. But it can be had for $450, for just the GPS unit. That's what I bought, because I already had the HRM+CAD. I'm using Open Street Maps for Garmin. And I'm sure this (navigate to address) is available, because not too long ago I was wondering why anybody would ever want that. So there you go.

    Open Street Maps for Garmin can be had - for free, and legally - here:

    http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/O...armin/Download
    http://openmtbmap.org/

    Neither of those are the ones I have, I think. It's as complicated or as simple as you make it; if you get one and don't like it, delete it and try another.
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    This thread begs the question, Could you use an Edge 800 in your car? If so would you want to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jethro56 View Post
    This thread begs the question, Could you use an Edge 800 in your car? If so would you want to?
    In a pinch. The Nuvi receiver is a lot less expensive, and will talk to you if you need voice prompts. It will also re-route if you get off course. The software between the two receivers have some commonality, but since the devices were designed for different purposes, the software is tailored for those purposes. But, in an emergency, I suppose it could be used. The other problem is the mount. Don't think you would want to handhold an 800 while you're driving. Too much like cell phone use or texting. Most places give tickets for texting or cell phone usage while moving in an auto.
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    ^ The Edge will recalculate the route when you miss a turn, or take one it didn't plan on.

    You could use it in the car, sure. The reason I wouldn't want to, is the thing is also an odometer for your bike, and I like knowing how many miles I've done. Also, I'm not sure if it ships this way or if I changed the settings and forgot, but the Edge will route you over the least trafficked roads available, it'll skip the highways and keep you away from the cars. Plus the screen is small.

    On days when my time has been limited, I've done stuff like drive the bike out to what I think should be a good starting point, find somewhere to park, then ask the Garmin to find a route to my destination, and make sure it's within, say, 25 miles if I'm doing an out-and-back (that gets me 50 mountain miles), and then find a different starting point if I'm too close or far. I don't think that's what you have in mind.
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    My Garmin in my car is like 10 years old and the maps are out of date. I haven't seen an 800 and figured the screen size would be a problem for car use. Oh well it was just a thought.

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    The Edge is a bike GPS. Better for car use means worse for bike use; it's small, light, aerodynamic, and waterproof.

    Can't you update the maps on your car GPS? I paid $450 instead of $650 for my edge in part because I got it without maps. Then I loaded the OSM ones, for free; they make an export in Garmin format.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
    I was wondering if you can put an address into the Garmin and it will tell you where to go. I cannot figure out how to do that. I have the address and I would like to plug it into the Garmin .
    Chef, send it to me and I'll fix it up for you and send it back...
    in October

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    ... the thing is also an odometer for your bike, and I like knowing how many miles I've done......
    While I don't think the Garmin would make for a very good car navigator, you could treat is as one of the five bikes - won't hurt tracking miles on your bike. I use our 800 for my single and our tandem. Miles are separately tracked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdtompki View Post
    While I don't think the Garmin would make for a very good car navigator, you could treat is as one of the five bikes - won't hurt tracking miles on your bike. I use our 800 for my single and our tandem. Miles are separately tracked.
    thats a cool feature!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBOHUNT View Post
    Chef, send it to me and I'll fix it up for you and send it back...
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    Let me give it some thought.................


    ...................yea........... no!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    The Edge is a bike GPS. Better for car use means worse for bike use; it's small, light, aerodynamic, and waterproof.

    Can't you update the maps on your car GPS? I paid $450 instead of $650 for my edge in part because I got it without maps. Then I loaded the OSM ones, for free; they make an export in Garmin format.
    But then does it allow you to type in the address and will it navagate to that point? I do not see the option in the garmin to even type the address in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdtompki View Post
    While I don't think the Garmin would make for a very good car navigator, you could treat is as one of the five bikes - won't hurt tracking miles on your bike. I use our 800 for my single and our tandem. Miles are separately tracked.
    You're right. When I bought it, it allowed three bikes, and I had forgotten that they upped the limit in a firmware update. So, Volosong, that probably shouldn't be a reason not to use the Edge in the car, although I still think it wouldn't be the best choice, although it would work.

    Quote Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
    But then does it allow you to type in the address and will it navagate to that point? I do not see the option in the garmin to even type the address in.
    Yes. Did you get yours with or without the map/hrm/cad bundle, or are you using the base map?

    Here's a thread on the Garmin forum. It says the same thing I said here, but goes into more detail, because someone who's used this feature wrote it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    ^ The Edge will recalculate the route when you miss a turn, or take one it didn't plan on...
    That's an improvement on the Edge 500, which I've been using for about a year and a half. The routing function stinks on that device. Get lost, and there is no indication on how to get back to your route. I've only had my 800 for just a couple of weeks and am still getting used to it. (I've taken several rides with both devices, and get different ride results from each. Still investigating why.)

    Still, I wouldn't think using an 800 as a car navigator would be efficient. To me, the biggest disadvantages are how to mount, (I admit that a variety of mounts are available for extra cost), and the screen size. But, in a bind, sure it could be used. Not cost efficient ether. Dedicated car navigators are available for just over a hundred bucks.

    I too purchased the base unit and acquired maps afterward. Got the latest version of City Navigator off the bay or a pretty good price and use OSM for out of the country maps, (OSM maps of my neighborhood are pretty awful. My street has been there for ten years, and it does not show up in OSM.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
    But then does it allow you to type in the address and will it navagate to that point? I do not see the option in the garmin to even type the address in.
    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    Yes, you can... if you've purchased the upgraded maps from Garmin. Pages 28 and 29 of your user manual will tell you how to enter an address. You can download the manual from Garmin, if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    Its the drugs man.... the pain killers for the stent and kidney stones. I am sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    The Edge is a bike GPS. Better for car use means worse for bike use; it's small, light, aerodynamic, and waterproof.

    Can't you update the maps on your car GPS? I paid $450 instead of $650 for my edge in part because I got it without maps. Then I loaded the OSM ones, for free; they make an export in Garmin format.

    I believe all the new nuvi come with free lifetime maps now...I know my model I bought last year did anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by volosong View Post
    I too purchased the base unit and acquired maps afterward. Got the latest version of City Navigator off the bay or a pretty good price and use OSM for out of the country maps, (OSM maps of my neighborhood are pretty awful. My street has been there for ten years, and it does not show up in OSM.)
    You can fix that. OSM is like the Wikipedia of maps. I'm not sure exactly what the process is, but I think you basically just ride your street with the GPS recording, upload the track, and tell them what street it is. Then it goes into the map, and the next update should have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    You can fix that. OSM is like the Wikipedia of maps. I'm not sure exactly what the process is, but I think you basically just ride your street with the GPS recording, upload the track, and tell them what street it is. Then it goes into the map, and the next update should have it.
    Thanks for the info. I'm fairly new to OSM and have about ten GPS units as I teach "Map Interpretation and GPS" at the local community college. Budgets being as they are, I have to purchase my own equipment. It's easy enough to map the streets. Hey! Maybe that would be a good class assignment. I have to give them 18 hours of field work anyway.

    Looking around OSM briefly, I couldn't figure out how to submit mapped data, or what data was required, (house numbers, etc.) I'll check into it further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    You're right. When I bought it, it allowed three bikes, and I had forgotten that they upped the limit in a firmware update. So, Volosong, that probably shouldn't be a reason not to use the Edge in the car, although I still think it wouldn't be the best choice, although it would work.



    Yes. Did you get yours with or without the map/hrm/cad bundle, or are you using the base map?

    Here's a thread on the Garmin forum. It says the same thing I said here, but goes into more detail, because someone who's used this feature wrote it.

    Seattle: I do not have an address button under menu--- where to. ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
    Seattle: I do not have an address button under menu--- where to. ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    I dunno. It's there for me. I don't really have any more knowledge about how the Garmin works than anyone else, I just have one, and am trying to be helpful, but this might be beyond my abilities. If we can't get you an answer, you'll almost certainly have better luck on the Garmin forums. But, I don't know what map(s) you have, and it sounds like this function doesn't work (so it might not even be available) if it's just the base map.

    What map package(s) do you have on your Edge?

    Quote Originally Posted by volosong View Post
    Thanks for the info. I'm fairly new to OSM and have about ten GPS units as I teach "Map Interpretation and GPS" at the local community college. Budgets being as they are, I have to purchase my own equipment. It's easy enough to map the streets. Hey! Maybe that would be a good class assignment. I have to give them 18 hours of field work anyway.

    Looking around OSM briefly, I couldn't figure out how to submit mapped data, or what data was required, (house numbers, etc.) I'll check into it further.
    That sounds like a great class project!

    It looks like it's more complicated than I thought, though. Here are some very basic and high-level links.

    http://osmbugs.org/
    http://openstreetmapconsultant.com/2...rove-osm-data/
    http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners_Guide_1.2

    I've started playing with GIS a little bit; this is one of the reasons I bought a GPS in the first place. I like being able to get a map (and charts) of my ride, but one at a time is pretty limiting.



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    Seattle: I bought the package but have not loaded the SD card yet so many that is what is happening. What do you think?

    I asked the question at the garmin forum so we will see how it rolls.

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