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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 06-20-12, 11:22 AM   #1
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Columbus Spirit Frames

any clydes have on of these? i know the spirit niobium tubing is supposed to be the lightest, strongest steel yet. I am 270, and ride an aluminum frame track bike that is fast and i can average 15-16 mph on, but it feels like I am riding without tires with all the road-shock, and my bottom bracket flexes pretty heavily. I want a steel frame, but not with the weight penalty....wondering if the Columbus Spirit tubeset hold up to a big rider that cranks hard? i'm afraid if I go with thin tubes, I will end up flexing the crap out of it, when I could have gone with a lugged reynolds 725 frame and spent half the money and been better off anyway.

Wabi cycles is offering the Lightning SE, a complete tig-welded spirit frame fixed gear bike with fair componentry for $1100...killer price for Columbus Spirit tubes.

also, side note on saddles...do they make anything wider than a brooks B-17? 500 miles on mine, and i still feel like it's too narrow...
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Old 06-20-12, 10:24 PM   #2
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I have a custom Marinoni Sportivo - Marinoni usually makes these with spirit tubing - for me at 255 and 6'4" they built of Zona instead. They were pretty cautious with the whole build because they build them to last 39 years and not a couple of summers.
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Old 06-22-12, 01:10 PM   #3
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I have a custom Marinoni Sportivo - Marinoni usually makes these with spirit tubing - for me at 255 and 6'4" they built of Zona instead. They were pretty cautious with the whole build because they build them to last 39 years and not a couple of summers.
My experience is similar. In building up my custom road bike, the builder (Ira Ryan) felt more comfortable getting me on a mix of Spirit and Zona, in some cases oversized, for the way I stress a frame. I am about 205 now, but have been in the 220-240 range.I am not certain on which tubes are what, but the head tube, down tube and chain stays are all noticeably oversized, and the rest is not -- I'd venture they are Zona and the rest is Spirit. He did comment early in the process that anytime you get beyond about a 57 TT, you need to build in more strength for the frame to ride as it should. THis is also a lugged frame (many claim them to be stronger) and has a chain stay bridge, which also contributes to stiffness.

That said, the above is about ride characteristics. I have a production Kona Kapu which has Deda sat 14.5 tubing, which has held me just fine over 12,000 miles or so. It's just a little flex when standing to climb. And I've ridden that with me at about 240, plus backpack (another 20).

If your question is strength and ability to hold you, ask the builder, but I'd be surprised if it was an issue. If it's about ride characteristics, yes, I'd venture more flex than a thicker tube set.

Total weight with cages and computer mount of the custom and heavy wheels is just under 21 pounds. With race wheels she'd be closer to 19.
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looked at their site. My, there's a lot of info there. I'd say shoot them a note. But my gut -- you'll be fine. I'd call and ask them if I were you.
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Adrien answered better. The bike will certainly be strong enough. At 260 I rode a modernized 1984 Allez with very light and skinny tubes and loved it - there was flex but it felt more like spring. My only concern would be long term durability.
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