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    Riding a double metric century Sunday!

    This will be my second "official event". I did a standard century last month and now I'm stepping up to a hilly double metric this Sunday. I'm excited and nervous. The standard century was tough, but I paced myself and got through it. I have similar worries that I had last time in that my crazy triathlon friend will be there and he is a much stronger rider than me. Every time I ride with him I push myself so hard I bonk (though last time I rode with him I managed to drop him on a hill climb before bonking at the top!). Trouble is, if I don't stay with him I might end up solo riding for 100 miles like I wound up doing last time I rode a century which made for a much tougher ride. Also, I don't really want to sit on a saddle for like 12 hours so I'm tempted to stay at his pace, but he's often riding in the 20-25 mph range on flat ground. I'm fine with that on a shorter ride but I know I can't maintain that pace all day. Hopefully this time around the other riders will be a bit friendlier. The last century I did, my friend dropped me then I tried to ride with some other groups, but they were all snubbing their nose at me. So I'm contemplating all this, plus it might rain!

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    Well obviously from reading my question on the metric I have to do tomorrow, I have no personal experience, but I would say simply...don't set yourself up to fail. If keeping up with your buddy is going to make you blow up, then get comfortable tonight with the very real concept you may have to ride it alone (or at least not with your buddy)

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    Make new friends, I say. There are those who ride strong and want to score time points on a long ride, and there are those who'd like to simply finish. If bonking is a high probability, then make new friends. On a 124 mile ride, you really need to pace YOURself, and not pace someone else. I'm surprised that folks are snubbing you. I've been off the back doing support on long sponsored rides and most folks there are really nice and just want to finish. If you take the initiative to start a pace group that sets reasonable speed goals, it can really work out and you might finish a lot stronger than you think. Back in the day, there was a time I thought about doing the Davis Double in sub-13 hours. But getting a small gang together, to go on the ride, some who weren't strong riders, it was unconscionable to abandon them because a couple of us were faster riders. Plus, it turned out back in those days to be way more fun slogging and laughing through 17 hrs with quite few other folks struggling with our group in pitch black wondering if we were ever gonna finish. But we did. And one of our guys (geek editor for the college engineering rag) got the number of some gal that we caught up to and rode with for the last couple of hours. And as it turned out, of the four of us that started out on the ride, we all finished, but I was the only one not cramping, and I needed that to step on the clutch and gas to drive us back to Berkeley in my old, cramped 77 Corolla stick (with the Yakima roof rack). It's sometimes smart to leave a little gas in the tank. So take your time. Good luck!
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    Well, I think averaging 14-15 mph is not unreasonable for me. My friend probably wants to average 17-18 mph and I have ridden that pace on rides with him in the past, but I know I can't maintain that all day so I think I'll tell him to pack sand and he is competitive enough that he will just take off and do his own thing trying to set his own personal record. I have some other friends riding a shorter 70 mile route the same day. Hopefully I can stick with them for a while, but I'm not sure where the routes will split. I think for me, I did 100 miles in around 8 hours. I think I can do 125 in 10. Or blow myself up in the process, but hell, it will just make me stronger for the next one! By the way, the next one is the STP next month! 200 miles in 2 days!

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    At the pace you're riding, and looking at 200k, you might do well to check out the Seattle International Randonneurs. While there are a few speed demons in the group, there are more people that you'd find yourself riding with than getting dropped by. Especially if you're interested in doing STP as a one-day in the future, the Randos are a great bunch.
    Rando isn't about how fast you finish, it's about self sufficiency and persistence. I averaged under 13mph overall on most of my longer rides. 300k in 15h 03m (overall average 12.6), 400k in 24h (overall overage 10.4). The thing is that your overall average includes your stoppage time, so on a long-arsed ride like 400k (250 miles) you're taking into account all your stops for food and water resupply, bathroom breaks, lunch/dinner stop, mechanicals, etc.
    It's a self-supported discipline, so there's no SAG wagon and no outside help allowed between the registered control stops. You must follow the route as it is written on the cue sheet, and if you miss a turn you don't get to "find your way" to the next turn, you go back to where you made the mistake and chalk it up as bonus miles. Some people ride events as groups, others prefer to roll solo; it's all up to you. The only rules are 1) Follow the course exactly, and 2) Finish within the time limits. Each control station has an open and close time, and every event has a time limit based on the distance:
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    200k - 13h 30m
    300k - 20h
    400k - 27h
    600k - 40h
    1000k - 75h
    1200k - 90h
    1400k - 110h

    As you can see, it's not about the speed. The overall average works out to under 10mph. The real challenge is that you bring or buy everything you need along the way. There's no REI sponsored rest area with free food and electrolyte drinks every 20 miles like on a big sponsored century ride. However, on most of the 200k and over events there will be a control station manned by a few of the randos who are handing out some awesome grub (which is a relative measure: Cup 'o Soup is awesome at midnight in a chilly downpour with another hilly 100k to go.)
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    LOL! We'll see if I can finish a double metric first, then maybe I'll look into the 1400k rides!

    BTW, 2 of my friends are texting me today trying to puss out tomorrow since the forecast shows some rain. So it may just be me and my hardcore triathlete friend.

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    If I was on that coast I would so wanna go. I have done 2 metric centuries solo so far this month, and a double would be fun/taxing. I hope you enjoy yourself as much as you can and just enjoy the ride.
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    Well, it's looking a little soggy out, but that's pretty standard for Washington. It should clear up for most of the day. Here's the course:

    http://capitalbicycleclub.org/WordPr...25-Handout.pdf

    OK, I'm off to the starting line.

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    Well I have no Strava data since my phone batter won't last that long, but I survived. It was crappy weather most of the day. Cold and rainy. I suffered through it and managed a much better overall time than I expected. All said and done, it was 126 miles in 8 1/2 hours including breaks. Average moving speed of 15.5. My triathlon friend stayed with me and my 70 mile route friends for about 100 yards (literally) before he took off like a bat out of hell with his roadie buddies. So right from the get go I didn't have to worry about trying to keep up with him, since it flat out wasn't gonna happen! It was very much the skinny roadie show too, I saw very few clydes/athenas.

    My 2 friends riding the 70 mile route were riding like a couple of boat anchors and lollygagging at the first food stop for like 20 minutes so I told them my ass can't handle their pace and took off on my own in the cold crappy rain. Just like my last century it was very much a solo ride for about 80 miles of the day. I rode and chatted with a couple of cute gals from Tacoma for a while and after their route split from mine, I sort of caught my second wind at about mile 60. I picked up the pace and by some sort of miracle I managed to catch my triathlon friend and his roadie buddies at the 90 mile food stop! I rode the rest of the day with them to the finish and even did several respectable pulls at the front.

    The food stops were great this time! My last century ride had nothing but stale bagels and dry fruit, but this one was great! Every stop had pbj sammiches (on Dave's Killer Bread, google if you've never heard of it, it's awesome!), hard boiled eggs, those little red potatoes, cookies, oranges and bananas, muffins, Cliff bars and other protein bars, donuts, bean burritos, all staffed by very nice and friendly people!

    Now please excuse me while i go sleep for 2 days and try to defrost my toes!

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    Great job...man I hope I can work up to one of the by years end

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesteroid View Post
    Great job...man I hope I can work up to one of the by years end
    I hope you do! My confidence is soaring after today! Even though it was freezing cold and raining for over half the ride, it was probably my favorite ride to date and I feel like I "accomplished" something today.

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    Congratulations.

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    I love the fact that you caught up with the roadies who bailed on you and finished with them! Nice work!

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    I am seriously in AWE such that I feel unworthy to read this post even!

    15.5 mph over 126 miles is seriously WOW!!! I averaged a paltry 12.2 mph over 62 miles and walked up hills.

    Is there a map of the route online? Love to see where you rode.
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