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Silas XIV 07-01-12 11:54 AM

310lbs looking to get back into cycling
 
Hey folks,

so, I'm back again, and having gained another 40lbs since my last effort of getting back into cycling, I've had enough. My reasons for putting it on the backburner are strictly financial, and after watchingthe Tour today, I am determined to get out there, and start doing something I love again. I`m sitting around 310lbs, most of the time less than that, but in-and-around there. I need a road bike that will support my fat arse. I've only got 24% body fat, according to my doctor, which is apparently very good for my size, height (6'3), and my age (18). He says if I lose 20lbs I'll be in relatively healthy shape, which I find hard to believe, but I'm not complaining.

This is a bit of a two part question, and latter part being silly, as you will see, but is a serious question none the less.

First off, is it unrealistic of me to think I can get a bike that will support me, alone with rebuilt wheels for less than $1,500? That's pretty much all I got to work with, and I don't even have that yet! I don't really want a tourng bike I want a road bike, touring, or a mountain bike would be okay to start off with. I've set my goals high, and I want to be below 270 by the end of Christmas. I know I can do it, it's just strictly dedication.

Second part of my question is that every since I was a kid, I've wanted to go pro, but had a moment in my life where cycling wasn't very possible anymore, so I had to set it aside for a few years. Would it be unrealistic of me to think I can lose 100lbs, and become pro in the next five years? I remember at 15/16 I was able to ride all day long, at a good pace, without needing breaks, so I know it's possible, but the weight loss is the part worrying me. I mean, is there a cut-off age for pros? I heard if you're under 28 years old, you're still good to go, but if you're over that, it's a lot harder to break-in. As stupid and unrealistic as this goal may sound to some of you, my dream has always been to ride the Tour de France atleast once, and race head-to-head with the big names out there.

Any help and/or advice is really appreciated, thanks guys!

jethro56 07-01-12 12:31 PM

I built one of these with Sram Rival.http://surlybikes.com/bikes/cross_check Another good choice is http://salsacycles.com/bikes/casseroll/. I don't know how much they're in Canada but in the US the Surly's $1150 and the Salsa's $1400

Silas XIV 07-01-12 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jethro56 (Post 14428158)
I built one of these with Sram Rival.http://surlybikes.com/bikes/cross_check Another good choice is http://salsacycles.com/bikes/casseroll/. I don't know how much they're in Canada but in the US the Surly's $1150 and the Salsa's $1400

Thanks for the response, I really like the Surly! How much do you weigh, if you don't mind me asking? Do you think it would hold my weight (300-310) with ease if I slapped on some 36 spoke wheels? I plan on losing weight fairly quickly, but I guess that's everyone's goal!

jethro56 07-01-12 02:25 PM

I'm 240. With the right wheels and running 35- 37 mm tires it should work well for you. I've run 28mm tires on it but I like 35's better. I had some touring wheels with 36 spoke 105 hubs built for it. I assembled the rest of the bike myself. It's not as fast as my Trek 4.5 Madone but running lower pressure sure makes for a smooth ride. I like it's ability to handle unpaved surfaces.

skilsaw 07-01-12 02:52 PM

I'm 250 and have gone the touring bike route. If you want a touring bike that has the look and feel of a road bike, check out Marinoni. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/IndexEN.html They are Canadian made.
You say you want to turn pro. Pro 'what'?
With your height and body type, think Football, not cycling. But biking can be an excellent component of an overall fitness plan.

Silas XIV 07-01-12 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skilsaw (Post 14428589)
I'm 250 and have gone the touring bike route. If you want a touring bike that has the look and feel of a road bike, check out Marinoni. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/IndexEN.html They are Canadian made.
You say you want to turn pro. Pro 'what'?
With your height and body type, think Football, not cycling. But biking can be an excellent component of an overall fitness plan.


Haha, I appreciate the reply, but I certainly don't think being 6'3 is a problem for being a pro cyclist. As for my weight, it's a problem at this point, but that is already changing. I need to lose 100lbs to be in top shape, I figure, and I think I can do it in two years. That means I'll be almost 21, in great shape, and be very fast. Do you not think it's possible to become a pro cyclist?

I'll check out the link, I love supporting local businesses! Provided they make a great product, they've got my money!

Edit: What do you think of this one? Good weight limit, and not a bad price!

http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/Html/FangoUltra.html

jethro56 07-01-12 03:31 PM

The $1725 is just for a frameset. Pretty easy to get $3000 in this.

Silas XIV 07-01-12 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jethro56 (Post 14428714)
The $1725 is just for a frameset. Pretty easy to get $3000 in this.


Oh crap, didn't even notice that! Damn, this one's out of the question for now! What about the Trek 520? If I toss some 36 spokes on there, would that be fine? I really only plan on being 300 for a short period of time. I'll probably sit around 270 for a little while, I have a feeling I'll plateau there from previous experience.

jethro56 07-01-12 05:19 PM

The 520 is well regarded as a touring bike. I'd try to ride as many touring and cyclocross bikes as you can find in your area. I'm 6'2" and I ride a 58 cm size cyclocross bike. My roadbike is a 60 cm. I kinda like being stretched out a little more on it and the handlebar to seat drop is greater to get more "aero". Wind plays a much bigger factor here in central Illinois than Hills.

I don't know whether you noticed but most touring bikes use barend shifters. The stock Cross Check uses then as well. I much prefer STI style shifters and that's one of the reasons I chose to buy a frameset and build it myself. I'm not suggesting you do this as just getting out and riding something is the first step.

ChuckD6421 07-01-12 08:25 PM

I'd like to address your question about 'going pro'.
I was lucky to have a modestly successful career as an amateur which included 2 years as a Cat. 2 so maybe I can offer an idea of what it takes.
Yeah, you can do it. Especially starting now at age 18.
BUT!

At 6'3", I think a more reasonable goal for pro-level racing will be to get under 200. I'm 6'1" and raced at ~175. And if I knew then what I know now about diet, I would've dropped 10 pounds more.
...
I'm not trying to brag here, just think you should know what it takes.
Expect years of 300-500 mile weeks, 11 months of the year. Seriously. Nothing less, there are no shortcuts. The key to success in cycling is 'ride lots'. Rain or shine (or snow, if that's in your climate). That's what I did. My most successful year I commuted a minimum of 27 miles to work and 27 back, and there was a 1000' elevation change from home to work. 5 days a week, and I missed one day due to sickness in the 10 months I sustained that lifestyle. I didn't own a car. I say 'minimum' because it wasn't unusual to throw my knapsack in the woods on the way home to add a 20 or 30 mile loop in, or to participate in a nearby evening training race or timetrial.

You should also expect to get yourself a proper roadracing bike in the next year or so and 'assume the position'. You can use the Surly, or whatever to start knocking the pounds off, but as soon as possible you need to start to get used to spending hours at a time on a performance road bicycle. In the early season expect to be putting in a 3-5 hour ride once a week on it (or more if possible) while you learn how to fuel yourself, dress and pace yourself over these distances.

I didn't start training for competition till I was 22 or so, but I also had a couple years of bike commuting and several extended tours under my belt. You're lucky to get the bug at a younger age. Pro cyclist enjoy longer careers so you have lots of time.

So, yeah, you can do it. The question is do you have what it takes?
Well, do ya kid?

:)

jasonmg1981 07-01-12 08:28 PM

Hello,

You may not be able to loose 100lbs and be viable for life. If you are 310lbs and only have 24% bodyfat, I give a rough estimate that loosing 64.5 lbs would put you in the 5% (athlete) bodyfat range, based on 310lbs/ 0.24 (24%) X 00.5 (5%)= 64.6lbs. Either way, if you hit 5% bodyfat you are at athlete status. At that point, go after your dreams and see what happens. I wish you the best of luck!

Silas XIV 07-02-12 02:36 AM

Thank you Jason and Chuck, I really appreciate the answers! That's kind what I was looking for, the motivation to go pro! Chuck, I definitely have what it takes to go pro, that's not a question! I know George Hincapie is around 180lbs I think, which is still really light, and he is considered one of the heavier riders, so of course that scares me, but I will do my best to lose as much weight as possible! I guess my weight at say 240 wouldn`t really matter if I had say 5% body fat, right? I'm a sprinter myself, and I'm great at climbing hills - or atleast I used to be!

I appreciate the responses - this is the type of motivation I'm looking for! Tour de France, here I come! I will make it some day! :)

jmccain 07-02-12 03:48 AM

Your countryman, Ryder Hesjedal, who won the Giro this year is your height and races at 160 pounds. I'm 6'4" and raced at 165 and was large in the pelotons I was in.

I'm sure I would have won the Giro given the chance.


(not really)

Gravity Aided 07-02-12 04:51 AM

Best of luck in your endeavour.
ChuckD6421 makes many good points .
The challenges are many,
but that is true
of any sport
you want to follow professionally.

4st7lbs 07-02-12 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Silas XIV (Post 14428334)
Thanks for the response, I really like the Surly! How much do you weigh, if you don't mind me asking? Do you think it would hold my weight (300-310) with ease if I slapped on some 36 spoke wheels? I plan on losing weight fairly quickly, but I guess that's everyone's goal!

I recently bought a Surly Cross Check and weighted around 410lbs when I bought it and am now at 390. So far the frame has been sturdy as a rock but the stock wheels on it are trash if you weight over 250lbs. The only problems I've had with the Cross Check, other than the wheels, is that stock tires, seat, and bar tape are really awful. I'm running larger Bontrager slicks, a Brooks saddle (50% off from Nashbar) and Lizard Skins tape and it's a dream ride.

What you might consider doing is getting a 40 or 48 spoke rear wheel built on the cheap (see this thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ld-on-a-Budget) that will work for you at 300+lbs and act as a touring wheel once you've taken off the additional weight. I did this recently and decided to splurge and had a rear wheel built with a Phil Wood 48h hub $420) and a Velocity Chukkar rim ($80) that should last me 20 years.

Now that I have that wheel I don't worry about breaking down when I really start hammering on hills and on the street.

chefisaac 07-02-12 08:02 AM

Giant Defy is great. Started riding it when I was 360 pounds. Great ride!

Silas XIV 07-02-12 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chefisaac (Post 14430941)
Giant Defy is great. Started riding it when I was 360 pounds. Great ride!

The Giant Defy, eh? That's a bike I could keep through my whole riding career, too! What kinda rims do you got? I noticed the highest they come in is 28h

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Originally Posted by 4st7lbs (Post 14430462)
I recently bought a Surly Cross Check and weighted around 410lbs when I bought it and am now at 390. So far the frame has been sturdy as a rock but the stock wheels on it are trash if you weight over 250lbs. The only problems I've had with the Cross Check, other than the wheels, is that stock tires, seat, and bar tape are really awful. I'm running larger Bontrager slicks, a Brooks saddle (50% off from Nashbar) and Lizard Skins tape and it's a dream ride.

What you might consider doing is getting a 40 or 48 spoke rear wheel built on the cheap (see this thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ld-on-a-Budget) that will work for you at 300+lbs and act as a touring wheel once you've taken off the additional weight. I did this recently and decided to splurge and had a rear wheel built with a Phil Wood 48h hub $420) and a Velocity Chukkar rim ($80) that should last me 20 years.

Now that I have that wheel I don't worry about breaking down when I really start hammering on hills and on the street.

That's awesome, I'll have to look into that, because I want something reliable! Other than the excess spokes, does your wheels look the same?

psalm 07-02-12 10:42 AM

I got my CAAD8 at 315 pounds, it supported me just fine. I had gotten down to 235 at one point, back up to 260 but working on it. I have Easton EA50 wheels on it right now, 20 radial spokes up front, and 24 2 cross drive side, radial non drive side on the rear running 700x23. I don't have too many miles on them yet, but they are holding my weight fine. My bike has held up fine as well as my wheels. Don't limit yourself due to your weight. There are many road bikes that will support you.

Silas XIV 07-02-12 02:01 PM

Thanks a bunch for the support guys! Now I just need to save my pennies and hop on a bike! I wanted a Cannondale, but a few years ago they stopped making them for the Canadian maket. If they're back at-it again or not, I'm not sure!

chefisaac 07-02-12 02:03 PM

Silas: I have 28s. Same rim that came with it but had the bike shop add heavier spokes. It worked nicely. You will love the Defy too. Sweet ride!

Silas XIV 07-02-12 04:13 PM

Really? No offence intended whatsoever, but at 360 you weren't breaking spokes with the 28? That's awesome news to hear! Time to save my pennies!


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