Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-06-12, 06:30 PM   #1
ChrisM2097
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
ChrisM2097's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Milpitas, CA
Bikes: 2007 Specialized Rockhopper Disc; Trek 7.5 FX
Posts: 981
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Climbing Progress

There's a steep hill by my house that I haven't climbed since September of last year.

I think I climbed it 3 times last summer, and my best time was 20 minutes to the top. The peak is 1.5 miles from my house. The hill averages 9.5% grade, but much of it is actually 12-16%.

I rode it today, and shaved a full 4 minutes off the climb, and didn't even have to drop down to my small chain ring (triple), though I was tempted a couple times.

http://app.strava.com/rides/12672047#219981989

Maybe it's time to put the compact double back on the bike?
ChrisM2097 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-12, 07:04 PM   #2
vesteroid
Climbers Apprentice
 
vesteroid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Bikes:
Posts: 1,608
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yes, people like Seattle, hill pumper, Trojan, beanzy, and ibowhunt shamed me into really starting to climb. just got back from my second big (for me) climb of the week...one day soon, I am going to make it to the top of that mountain. It's 16.5 miles to the top and about 4700 feet of climbing...going to make it early august if it kills me.
vesteroid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-12, 09:15 PM   #3
Mithrandir
Senior Member
 
Mithrandir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Buffalo, NY
Bikes: 2012 Surly LHT, 1995 GT Outpost Trail
Posts: 2,400
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Similar story here!


http://app.strava.com/rides/12680373
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/196434894


Been doing 2 hill training rides a week for the past 2 months. Started doing a 20 mile loop with 4 "mega hills" (aka hills that require my lowest gear to climb). Each time I do the 20 I cut around 6 minutes off of it, which is really damn encouraging. Every time I do flats, I can barely cut any time off at all, so to get 4 straight weeks of cutting 6 minutes off each attempt is bloody fantastic to me.

Last month I tried extending the ride to 30 miles, but I hit "the wall", or the "uber hill"; the first hill I've ever come across that made me get off and walk. It was disheartening, so I kept doing the 20 for a few more weeks. Finally today, I felt like it was time to hit "the wall" again, as the 20 miler just doesn't seem long enough anymore. It was also the hottest day of the year, but I've put off my hill training this week too long already so I forced myself to try the 30 mile ride, leaving myself an option to bail out to do the 20 if it was just too hot out. I left at 7:30pm so if all went well I would be done with the majority of the descending before dusk set in, and brought my 5 hour headlight battery for the remainder of the ride.


So I hit the first "mega" hill. As usual, my gears started rapidly going down, one by one. But a funny thing happened. Suddenly, for the very first time ever, I didn't need to switch to my lowest gear. I didn't know which gear I was in because my shifters don't have a display, but there was enough play in the shifter to let me know that I had at least one lower gear... which I didn't need! I got to the top and then shifted down just to verify what gear I was in, and found that I was in the 2nd lowest gear.

My first victory of the night!

Sweat was pouring off of my body at this point so I drank a lot of water and kept going. Hit the 2nd mega hill, thinking to myself that it would be nice to do it in 2nd gear again, but not necessary. I felt very tired, like I had expended all my energy on the 1st hill, but oddly enough, I got down into 2nd gear again and didn't go lower. Amazing!

Third mega hill. Shorter than the others, but steeper. Always requires lowest gear too. I thought to myself, surely this time I'll need the lowest gear, but miracle of miracles, I did this one in 2nd too!

I was gobsmacked. I knew just by the fact that I did all 3 mega hills in 2nd gear that I'd have shattered all of my personal records again, so I was feeling pretty damn confident in myself by this point. The 10 mile bailout point came... and went. Screw it, I'm taking on the uber hill, and nothing is going to stop me.

Hit a "nice" hill inbetween (nice hills don't require the granny gear), then... I saw... "the wall". It loomed before me, looking like it went pretty much straight up. "It's go time", I said to myself, and started watting like a madman. I must have inhaled a dozen bugs as I was yawping for oxygen like never before. I started a very slight 2-feet diameter weave so I would somewhat lessen the grade, but still remain within the shoulder about 80% of the way up. My legs felt like they were going to begin locking up, but I was already happy with myself because I had climbed at least 60 feet higher than the last time I tried the hill and gave up. Finally, I reached the top, my heartrate peaked at 150, a magnificent feat for someone on beta blockers, and screamed in victory, because I had finally conquered "the uber hill".

Saw a magnificent sunset at the top of the hill, the cherry on top of the sundae if you will. Rest of the ride was mostly downhill, but I still sprinted on the flats, amazed that I still had any power left over after all the climbing.

Honest to god, this was the best ride of the year so far. I think I'll do it at least 2 more times before I move on and try to find even more challenging hills.



So yeah, progress is awesome. I don't know why I can't seem to make any progress on flat rides; I almost never gain time on those anymore, but whenever I climb hills, I gain at least 5 minutes every time I do them compared to previous attempts.
Mithrandir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-12, 09:37 PM   #4
rm -rf
don't try this at home.
 
rm -rf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: N. KY
Bikes:
Posts: 3,567
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisM2097 View Post
There's a steep hill by my house that I haven't climbed since September of last year.

I think I climbed it 3 times last summer, and my best time was 20 minutes to the top. The peak is 1.5 miles from my house. The hill averages 9.5% grade, but much of it is actually 12-16%.

I rode it today, and shaved a full 4 minutes off the climb, and didn't even have to drop down to my small chain ring (triple), though I was tempted a couple times.

http://app.strava.com/rides/12672047#219981989

Maybe it's time to put the compact double back on the bike?
That's a very good effort. Strava shows a VAM score on climbs that are long enough and steep enough to make a usable calculation. That's measured in elevation meters per hour. So your VAM of 675 is about 2200 feet of climbing per hour. That's faster than my usual 2000 feet per hour.

(Strava attracts fast bike racer types, with amazing fast climbs. I don't let that affect me. I'm competing against myself, or against the guy right above me on the climb list!)

There's a thread on the 50+ forum about VAM scores. A score over 900 is at the 3000 feet per hour range, a goal of some amateur bike racers. ( The wikipedia article above shows the top TdF climbers at a VAM of 1800 !)

The VAM score lets you compare efforts on different grades, since on an easier grade, you'll go faster and still do a similar amount of elevation gain. (They say that steeper hills tend to get a slightly higher VAM. They say it's due to less wind resistance on slow steep climbs. But for me it's partially due to the fact that I can't slack off at all on the steep parts, or I might fall over!) I need to practice my Italian: VelocitÓ Ascensionale Media

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I always take advantage of my low gears. I'll even drop to my lowest 34-29 gear on a 4-5% climb, spinning it at 95 rpm. The 34-29 is similar to a 30-25 on a triple, a pretty low gear. On anything over 8%, I'm always in my lowest gear.

Last edited by rm -rf; 07-06-12 at 10:17 PM.
rm -rf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-12, 09:52 PM   #5
Mithrandir
Senior Member
 
Mithrandir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Buffalo, NY
Bikes: 2012 Surly LHT, 1995 GT Outpost Trail
Posts: 2,400
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rm -rf View Post
I always take advantage of my low gears. I'll even drop to my lowest 34-29 gear on a 4-5% climb, spinning it at 95 rpm. The 34-29 is similar to a 30-25 on a triple, a pretty low gear. On anything over 8%, I'm always in my lowest gear.
Egads. I don't know how anyone could live with 34-29 on an 8% incline. Just thinking about it makes my knees hurt. Those drop me right down to 24-34 typically, though today I was able to do them at 24-30.
Mithrandir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-12, 10:19 PM   #6
Mr. Beanz
Banned.
 
Mr. Beanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upland Ca
Bikes: Lemond Chambery/Cannondale R-900/Trek 8000 MTB/Burley Duet tandem
Posts: 20,030
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Nice climb Chris!
Mr. Beanz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:45 PM.