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    I need to find a bike club.
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    Had my 2nd club ride last night. They have weekly night rides on Thursdays about 10 miles from where I live. I debated whether I should bike to the start or drive, and ultimately decided to just bike there, bringing my headlight in case the ride went long and I had to ride back in the dark. I showed up and so did a bunch of people I rode with on Sunday so they introduced me to the rest of the people there. They gave me a choice of 21 miles or 26 miles so I said why not and signed up for 26. While waiting for the group to assemble I talked with a bunch of people and they warned me that the 26 ride consisted of 19+mph averages, so I decided to knock back down to the 21 mile group where I would at least have a sporting chance of keeping up.

    Then we were off. I'm weakest during the first part of any ride, I'm not sure why but it takes around 10 miles for my legs to warm up now. Longer yesterday since I did my biggest hill ride ever the night before that. Luckily I did 10 miles to the start to "shake out" my legs, and I was able to keep up with the 21 group fairly easily. Eventually my legs started complaining on some mild hills and I dropped to the back of the pack, and slowly fell away. They got around 1/4 to 1/2 a mile ahead but never fully out of my sight when the route leveled off and I was able to rapidly catch up again. Their route took them right near to where I lived, which was amusing since I biked 10 miles to the start, then the group biked back to near where I lived. They stopped a few minutes after I caught up, at the bottom of another hill, to take a water break for 3-4 minutes. Everyone was surprised I managed to catch up, they had written me off when I dropped off the back and were pretty impressed, but it makes sense to me. At 390 pounds, hills simply require far more energy for me to climb than someone half my size, so while my legs may put out a lot more power than someone else, they'll simply kick my ass on hills.

    We were off again, and I managed to keep up for the rest of the ride. I actually moved up near the front of the pack as people started getting tired. With about 3 miles left to go people started getting dropped, but I still felt like I had energy left, and sprinted the last 2 miles to finish first in my group, as the rest filtered in over the next few minutes. 21 mile average was 14.8 miles per hour, once again tying my all-time best speed for a loop, which felt awesome. Hung around the parking lot to chat for a bit before people started leaving, and so I took off as well.

    Unfortunately I may have used a lot more energy than I thought I did in the last couple of miles, because on the way home I felt... dead. I geared down but still felt like I had no energy left, and struggled to keep my average speed up. I finally made it home and my average had fallen to 14.0mph, which is still my 2nd highest 40+ mile average, so overall this ride was a huge success for me.

    I will continue riding the Thursday night rides at this location until the season ends.

    I'm going to attempt a much more difficult course tomorrow with the club; 30 miles and 1800 feet of climbing. I've done 1700 feet over 32 miles as my previous most-hilly ride, so this increases the challenge for me once again. The first 2 club rides were relatively flat; 300ft@35 miles and 600ft@21 miles, so this will give me an idea if I'll have any chance of hanging on on much steeper hills. I'm predicting I won't be able to, but I'm also predicting that I'll be able to easily catch up on the downhills.

    One thing I've noticed that I'm going to have to get used to is that I actually have to use by brakes going downhill when in a group. I am amazed at how much faster I fall than everyone else, it's actually kind of annoying because I'm constantly coming up on whomever's wheel is in front of me. Anyway, I had fun, and I'm looking forward to more fun tomorrow.

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    sounds like your having a good time. Keep it up!
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    Riding with the club is wonderful. I've been riding with a faster group lately and they've pushed me to a new level (they've also come back and pulled my oversized butt back up to the group a few times. The weight I've lost helps but the difficulty keeping up keeps me aware I've got more to lose.
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    Damn, Mith, that's truly inspirational. Count me impressed.
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    Mith: Forget the bakes on the downhill bro. If they are dropping you on the climb, drop them on the downhill. That is one of the bet things about being a bigger rider. DONT HIT THE BRAKES!

    Remember, rest days are very important. Consider talking with paisan. He has taught me a lot about importance of rest days and also eating properly while riding, pre riding and post riding.

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    I am with the chef.

    Sounds like you found a great group Mith!

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    Third club ride. Since I did well at the last two I decided to up the difficulty and try a really hilly ride to see how well I did. When I arrived, instead of the ragtag group of steel and aluminum bikes I'm used to seeing, I was greeted with a gleaming bunch of sleek carbon fibre bikes that are more common at the bike shop rides. Uh oh. I kept waiting for anyone I rode with at the last few rides to show up, but alas it wasn't to be.

    As with all rides there are two choices; the longer ride and the shorter ride. Since I was doing tough hills, I wisely opted for the shorter ride. The group leader introduced me as a newbie and everyone was giving me that "I know he's going to be meeting a firing squad" look. I was half expecting someone to offer me a cigarette and a blindfold. I knew not what I was in for. The leader then asked how many people were doing the short ride. I was the only one who raised my hand. Great; the ride hasn't even started and I was already dropped!

    So we go off, a few people stay behind with me for a mile or so and keep hinting that there are lots of hills on this ride and to make sure I've got a map and there's no shame in turning around if it gets too hard, etc. Honestly. Then they started telling me that they all started off really slow when they first started cycling and don't get discouraged, etc. Yeah thanks! Pleasantries over, we hit the start of the hill and everyone took off and left me in the dust.

    So now here I am, on the biggest hills I've ever ridden, in an area I'm not at all familiar with and have never even driven around, alone. Well at least I had more than enough water. The hills were killer. I mean gigantic, making sweat pour off of me like a murmuring brook. Finally got to the top of one and... the entire descent is gravel. ****! Even in a club ride nothing works. So I can't even descend the hill at a nice pace, I have to ride my brakes, keeping my speed below 10mph the entire time so I don't wipe out and kill myself, hoping I don't overheat my rims and cause a blowout, which will in turn make me wipe out and kill myself. Another few miles of gravel and I'm wondering how the hell the 23mmers even made it through this area without getting flats, but clearly they did because there's noone stopped along the road fixing their tubes.

    Finally I get to pavement again, but it's all uphill again, up an even bigger hill than before. I'm out of energy by now, so I start doing S-curves along the road to lower the effective gradient. Finally get to the top and I get to begin a nice descent, only it's winding so I have to ride the brakes again so I can't even really enjoy it, and luckily I did that because it ended on a blind turn with a surprise stopsign. GAH.

    At this point I'm cursing myself, wondering why I do this. There was a nice flat 50 mile ride in Lockport today I could have gone to instead, would have been much more fun, ya know? But reason takes hold and convinces me that hey, I ****ing showed up, and I'm already more than half done with the ascent. That puts me ahead of everyone else who didn't even bother doing the hills, so there, I win.

    After that I sort of entered some sort of zen state. It could have just been the heat. I can't be sure. But lo and behold, another hill appears. Just want the pain to end. Halfway up I hear someone yell out "GOD BLESS YOU MAN! I TRIED THAT ONCE AND SAID 'NEVER AGAIN!'", giving me a thumbs-up for climbing the hill he lived on. Made me feel a bit better, so I kept going.

    Dropped my chain on the next hill. Nearly fell over but luckily I was able to clip-out and put my foot down just as my bike completely lost momentum. I fixed the chain, but unfortunately the hill was too steep to start going again so I walked up the last 20 feet (vertical!) and went on my way.

    Finally, the route turns back north and I'm headed home. Except the course takes me on a gigantic descent, over 600 feet, on another winding twisty road, so yet again I have to ride the brakes the entire way down since I have no idea what's around each hidden bend. Really killed my average speed.

    Eventually I make it, limping, back into Hamburg. A bunch of riders from the 45 mile ride begin passing me on my way in, each one congratulating me on doing something they probably didn't think I was capable of. That lifted my spirits a bunch and I managed to finish the ride happy.

    Within a few minutes everyone was back at the meeting place and everyone kept saying how great it was that I made it. Ok look it wasn't that bad, I wouldn't have attempted this route if I thought there was even the slightest chance of me failing. Sure I *****ed a lot in my head but that's what hills do to me. In retrospect the rides are always much more fun than they felt at the time.

    A bunch of people kept asking me when can they expect to see me again, so I suppose that was an implicit hint that I am welcome. I don't know yet though, I haven't looked at the schedule. Anyway, that was by far the toughest hill ride I've ever done, with a total of 66 feet per mile of climbing (132, really, since it was a loop). I just wish there were more people of my skill level present, that would have made it much more fun. I also wish I could have descended without braking.

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    I think for the time being I will continue doing hill rides of this calibre on my own, but keep the club rides flatter so there is a chance I'll be able to keep up with the riders. I mean I'm not really a morning person so in my opinion it was kind of silly for me to wake up at 6am and drive 30 miles to ride alone when I could have just ridden a similar amount of hills at a more comfortable time, in an area I'm more familiar with, without having to drive anywhere. I have a VERY long way to go before I can even dream of keeping up with the type of people who were on todays ride.

    I dunno.

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    I think for the time being I will continue doing hill rides of this calibre on my own, but keep the club rides flatter so there is a chance I'll be able to keep up with the riders. I mean I'm not really a morning person so in my opinion it was kind of silly for me to wake up at 6am and drive 30 miles to ride alone when I could have just ridden a similar amount of hills at a more comfortable time, in an area I'm more familiar with, without having to drive anywhere. I have a VERY long way to go before I can even dream of keeping up with the type of people who were on todays ride.

    I dunno.
    It seems to me that you do know. Your proposal is obviously sensible, IMO. There's no point in riding with a group that is always out of sight, so it's clear that now is not the time to be riding these hills, with these riders. But the flatter rides are challenging you enough to get you out of your comfort zone, giving you a sense of achievement, and incorporating an element of sociability and encouragement. Great stuff.

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    Congrat's on your latest ride Mithrandir ! If you don't mind could you let me know what it cost to join this bike club ?

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    $20 for individual membership, $30 for family membership, or $30/$40 if you want to be mailed printed newsletters. Plus an optional $5 for a map CD. So I paid $25 for individual with maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir View Post
    $20 for individual membership, $30 for family membership, or $30/$40 if you want to be mailed printed newsletters. Plus an optional $5 for a map CD. So I paid $25 for individual with maps.
    Went to a meeting for local club leaders sponsored by the League of American Bicyclists and your dues are similar to most of the clubs in the country. Like you I've primarily ridden with folks I could keep up with but when I began to ride with groups who pushed me I got stronger and I forgot to mention the bicycle club members are some of the nicest people I've ever known..Even the ones I can't keep up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir View Post
    I could have just ridden a similar amount of hills at a more comfortable time, in an area I'm more familiar with, without having to drive anywhere.
    If you do what you did what you did in the past you will continue to get the same results as the past. stretch what you think you can do and be surprised how you underestimate yourself.

    You are doing great keep at those group rides and the hard ones. Like you said the fact you showed up and FINISHED is more than many others. you not only show up but you dont quit its a huge quality you have and is the quality that will take you very far not just in cycling but in other aspects of life. Rock on!


    BTW personally I love this thread and impatiently look forward to your post group ride write ups. So even just for my reading enjoyment continue with the harder group rides and report back

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ C View Post
    If you do what you did what you did in the past you will continue to get the same results as the past. stretch what you think you can do and be surprised how you underestimate yourself.
    I don't disagree, but at the same time I am indeed seeing progress on solo hilly rides. Given the 50%+ speed advantage the rest of the riders had, I'm not sure riding with them will provide any benefit at all at the moment. I can see if they were maybe 1-2mph faster than me I could keep up, but not 6+ mph. I think when I get within that "window" I'll show up to hilly rides more as they'll have more benefit to me.

    You are doing great keep at those group rides and the hard ones. Like you said the fact you showed up and FINISHED is more than many others. you not only show up but you dont quit its a huge quality you have and is the quality that will take you very far not just in cycling but in other aspects of life. Rock on!
    Thanks. To be honest I seriously was considering abandoning at one point. However, as a man of reason I decided that
    1) I wasn't about to go climb up the steep gravel decline I had descended earlier; it was dangerous enough going down, I figured going up would be even worse.
    2) I had no idea where I was and only had the cue sheet to tell me how to complete the course. Given that it was near noon at the peak of summer I couldn't even use the sun to ascertain my bearings, so I didn't want to go exploring, lest I find even worse roads and end up completely lost.
    3) The ride leader phone number listed on the sheet was wrong; the original ride leader backed out of running the ride at the last minute and someone new took over, and didn't update the sheets with their information, so I couldn't even call anyone to tell them I abandoned.

    So, I kept going, and now I know I can do those hills, and will be more confident the next time I'm in that situation.


    BTW personally I love this thread and impatiently look forward to your post group ride write ups. So even just for my reading enjoyment continue with the harder group rides and report back
    Thanks! I actually started a blog the other day because my facebook friends were complaining that facebooks' interface was making it hard to read my increasingly-rambling posts about cycling. You can find it here:

    http://velocipedia.wordpress.com/

    I think this will give me a better outlet for my musings, because I also want to post about various cycling products I use or other fitness/outdoorsy thoughts I think of, many of which don't warrant posting new threads in BikeForums and/or are difficult to categorize on the forums.

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    Mithrandir I can't send private messages and I don't want to hijack your thread but I had to thank you.
    I went this morning and road with the club, thanks to your post I met some great people. I did the 62 mile
    run and finished with the top riders. Thanks again and keep doing what your doing. Your an inspiration to many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge9904 View Post
    Mithrandir I can't send private messages and I don't want to hijack your thread but I had to thank you.
    I went this morning and road with the club, thanks to your post I met some great people. I did the 62 mile
    run and finished with the top riders. Thanks again and keep doing what your doing. Your an inspiration to many.
    Oh wow, how was the thunder and rain? I was going to go but cancelled due to weather... Now I'm wondering if I should have gone anyway!

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    Hardly any rain, a very light drizzle. It did get windy the last hour and that made the trip back a bit tough.
    There was about 15 riders there.

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    I am now an official member, got my membership card yesterday and went for my 4th ride, and fastest ever.

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    Good stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrandir View Post
    So now here I am, on the biggest hills I've ever ridden, in an area I'm not at all familiar with and have never even driven around, alone. Well at least I had more than enough water. The hills were killer. I mean gigantic, making sweat pour off of me like a murmuring brook. Finally got to the top of one and... the entire descent is gravel. ****! Even in a club ride nothing works. So I can't even descend the hill at a nice pace, I have to ride my brakes, keeping my speed below 10mph the entire time so I don't wipe out and kill myself, hoping I don't overheat my rims and cause a blowout, which will in turn make me wipe out and kill myself.
    Mith, the type of rim "blowouts" you speak of are only really a danger on carbon rims, as they don't dissipate heat nearly as well as aluminum. If you're riding an aluminum rim, the situation you speak of really isn't going to be an issue. And even carbon rims are pretty darn indestructible these days, although under heavy braking the combination of the carbon surface and the special brake pads used on carbon rims does make them pretty noisy.

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