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    Tire mileage question

    How many miles should I get out of my 4 month old "Specialized Espoir Sport w/ double BlackBelt, 60 TPI, wire bead, 700x23c" tires? I have right around 900 miles on them and they are getting tore up. No sudden stops or flat spots. They look like the tread is starting to fall off.

    What is with these cheap inner tubes? I just had a flat, the valve stem pulled away from the tube. I think I rode on the same tires/tubes for 5+ years as a kid on my bmx.

    Recommendations for new tires? I ride the local bike trails and roads.

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    Although I think SPecialized Armadillos are some super strong heavy duty puncture resistant tires, avoid other Specialized tires myself.

    After a rec from a bud, I tried some Specialized Mondo S Works tires on one of my roadies. After 400 miles, I had a big chunk of rubber fly off the rear. About 4 inches long!

    $70 per tire, Never again.


    I have Continental GP400's on my roadie, just now starting to show a flat spot on the center of the rear tire at 1,337 miles since March.

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    I put on the same tires beanz did around the same time....thinkmhe has a few more miles on his...i would have said i loved them up until this week. Mi have ridden every day this week and have had 5 yes count them 5 flats....two on my ride today. I have vlown the rear tire out of the rim and shredded a 6 inch section of tube on two of the flats.

    I am starting to think the bead is bad on that tire.

    Going to tear them all the way apart and inspect the wheels when we get home sunday....i will say my tires show a pretty well defined flat spot for the 1200 or so miles i habe on them.

    Handling has been wonderful...i thinkmif i replace them i am going to a 23 vs a 25

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    I just had to replace my front tire only after about 150 miles. I bought a Continental SuperSport Plus. It only has about 200 miles but so far has lasted longer that the original . I don't see any unusual wear so far. It was about $45 at my local.
    I'll have to replace the rear soon, it's starting to unravel around the sidewall...

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    Forte Strada-K from Performance. $12-18 and last thousands of miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesteroid View Post
    I put on the same tires beanz did around the same time....thinkmhe has a few more miles on his...i would have said i loved them up until this week. Mi have ridden every day this week and have had 5 yes count them 5 flats....two on my ride today. I have vlown the rear tire out of the rim and shredded a 6 inch section of tube on two of the flats.

    I am starting to think the bead is bad on that tire.

    Going to tear them all the way apart and inspect the wheels when we get home sunday....i will say my tires show a pretty well defined flat spot for the 1200 or so miles i habe on them.

    Handling has been wonderful...i thinkmif i replace them i am going to a 23 vs a 25
    We're so much alike! I think we went to the same typing class too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    We're so much alike! I think we went to the same typing class too!

    Yeah count me as stupid i post on an ipad and somehow turned off spelling correction, and cant turn it back on....farging ipad....i cnat find it again

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    So beanzy...you think with me blowing out the tube and I mean blowing out the sidewall for about 6 inches with a loud bang...the tire bead must be bad? I am at a loss here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesteroid View Post
    So beanzy...you think with me blowing out the tube and I mean blowing out the sidewall for about 6 inches with a loud bang...the tire bead must be bad? I am at a loss here.

    After the blow out, I'd inspect the tire real good then mount if it looks safe and holds well., But I'd keep my eye on it, dismount and inspect after the first mile or so.

    But if it seriously shredded, I'd replace it for my own face's safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    I have Continental GP400's on my roadie, just now starting to show a flat spot on the center of the rear tire at 1,337 miles since March.
    This is what I have on mine and I noticed this morning the rear has worn through to the threads. I have about 2300 miles on them in the last year. Overall, I can't complain and plan on getting a new set.
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    I had a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on my touring bike and had over 5000 miles on them before I sold them to a guy who is still riding them. The tires still looked great aside from some small cuts here there. The ride is great also.

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    I probably have about 3000 miles on the Schwalbe Luganos that came on the GT GTR I bought around the end of April. So far, no flats and minimal wear. They're about a $25 tire for wire bead 700 x 23. Probably another $5-$10 for folding.

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    What should I look for when buying tires? I probably ride 50/50 on the bike trails (smooth) and the country tar/chip roads. These are the original tires that came on the bike. A couple of the guys I ride with(all work at the LBS) told me I could get a stronger and lighter wheel and to get ride of the OEM Specialized DT Axis 2.0.

    Good place to buy tires? Nashbar only shows 9 in 700x23
    Last edited by avance; 08-11-12 at 10:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesteroid View Post
    Yeah count me as stupid i post on an ipad and somehow turned off spelling correction, and cant turn it back on....farging ipad....i cnat find it again
    Settings>General > Keyboard> Touch Auto-Correction -> ON

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    Where do you get Schwalbe tires from?

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    One thing I learned long ago is pay particular attention to tire pressure if you want to get good wear and avoid flats. I try to keep mine inflated to 105-110 and check often. That seems to avoid many problems. If you start having several flats generally that means spend the bucks and get new tires.

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    I ride Schwalbe Durano Plus tires for my every day rides. They only have minimal wear on the rear tire (25mm), and the front tire (23mm) looks brand new after about 2000 miles. And thats with riding on road surfaces that are about 35% chipseal. They are a bit heavy, but they have good sidewall strength, and dual rubber compounds for added wear performance, and improved cornering grip. I prefer their ride quality, and sidewall durability, over the Gator skin. And i think they are more confidence inspiring on the edge then the Gator Skin as well, which constantly feels like its trying to skate on me.

    Next on my list of everyday tires to test is the Michelin Pro Optimum. I will post up my opinions at some point once i can get a few hundred miles into them.

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    So I have been browsing biketiresdirect and OMG there is alot of tires of there. What are the main differences between training tires and race tires? Weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by avance View Post
    How many miles should I get out of my 4 month old "Specialized Espoir Sport w/ double BlackBelt, 60 TPI, wire bead, 700x23c" tires? I have right around 900 miles on them and they are getting tore up. No sudden stops or flat spots. They look like the tread is starting to fall off.

    What is with these cheap inner tubes? I just had a flat, the valve stem pulled away from the tube. I think I rode on the same tires/tubes for 5+ years as a kid on my bmx.

    Recommendations for new tires? I ride the local bike trails and roads.
    I've never used these tires, but that seems like a ludicrously low mileage amount to be having issues. I'm not extremely heavy, but not a lightweight either, and I can easily get more than 2,000 miles out of even a rear tire. However, I make sure that I run 120 psi on the rear and check my tire pressure often. The ride's not quite as comfortable at that pressure, but running at that pressure will help your tires last.

    I'd switch from those to a Continental model. I think Gatorskins may be a better bet for you than the GP4000. Both are great tires, but the Gatorskin has better flat protection and will serve a heavier rider a bit better.

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    I check and fill my tires EVERY ride. It just looks like the tires are starting to come apart. I was thinking it was from riding alot of the tar/chip roads most of the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesteroid View Post
    So beanzy...you think with me blowing out the tube and I mean blowing out the sidewall for about 6 inches with a loud bang...the tire bead must be bad? I am at a loss here.
    If you ask me I'd look at the floor pump/tire pressure gauge first - nothing like overinflation to ruin a day! First man on the moon? Me, baby, when a Joe Blow built-in pressure gauge messed up and I put in an (estimated) 1000 psi in a 65 psi Mountain Bike Tire. I sat on the seat, and BOOM! Lunar Landing. Neil Armstrong in Lycra. You shoulda been there.
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