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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 08-21-12, 10:43 PM   #1
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Loosing fat, then gaining muscle...adding on weight...am I misinformed?

I have lost a tremendous amount of weight cycling, like many fellow clydes. I reached a plateau some time back and couldn't break 208#, give or take a few. I changed my eating habits quite a bit. I have been eating quite healthy for some time now due to my wife's health issues and what she can and cannot eat. I have lots of vegetables, fish, chicken, pork, fresh fruit, etc....very little breads, pasta, almost no fast food or cokes in a week if at all.

Recently I decided to try and shock my body a bit and went from riding three days a week, around 30-50 miles to riding 5 or 6 days a week and am doing 100+ miles a week. Two of my rides are 20 mile club rides, one is a 35+ mile ride, and then a couple of 15-20 mile slow paced rides. I am doing much more interval work, sprinting more, climbing harder. Over the last month that I have been doing this I have gained almost 10 pounds. I can actually see a difference in my legs, but also can see (and feel from my pants) that my stomach is thinner.

Am I imagining that I am gaining weight due to gaining muscle?
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Old 08-21-12, 10:57 PM   #2
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Nope. You ARE gaining weight and its muscle weight. Its a good thing.Its a fact that muscle weighs more than fat hence the gain of weight, but the loss of fat. There are a lot of muscle vs fat myths out there. This is a pretty good article on those - http://truestarhealth.com/members/cm...1ML3P1A20.html
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Old 08-21-12, 10:58 PM   #3
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And where are you losing this weight? LOL. You dont have a lot to get rid of, bro!
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Old 08-21-12, 11:05 PM   #4
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When I started back into cycling a few years back I was weighing in at over 325#(closer to 350#). Within the year I had gotten back to 280#. I had to take a break a couple of times over the past few years, one of them a year long, in order to work out some issues with prosthesis wear. So, really in three years time I rode less than two of them. I have been back at it pretty regular since last August or so (roughly the last year) with only a month break at once to heal. Since then I went from the 280# down to the 205-208# range and am now moving back up where I sit at around 215# right now. My resting heart rate has come down to the mid 40's and my blood pressure went from stage 2 hypertension to pre-hypertension without the use of medications.
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Old 08-21-12, 11:09 PM   #5
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And you TYPIFY Rule number 5 my brother. Ive ridden with you and know what you can do. You do more with one foot than most do with two.
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Old 08-22-12, 12:19 AM   #6
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Its a fact that muscle weighs more than fat
A pound of fat and a pound of muscle both weigh a pound. Muscle is denser than fat, however.
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Old 08-22-12, 01:32 AM   #7
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It may be a pound or two of muscle, but the rest is probably glycogen and water.
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It may be a pound or two of muscle, but the rest is probably glycogen and water.
Probably this. You will be gaining muscle, but unless you're a serious steroid abuser who does a lot of lifting there's no way you gain ten pounds of muscle in a month.

However, don't worry about the glycogen/water weight thing. Eventually you will reach a new natural balance and just pee out the excess water. Trust what you can see in the mirror. If your waistline is shrinking, that's much more important for your health and fitness than a few pounds on the scales. I'd keep doing what you're doing because you're clearly doing something right.
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Probably this. You will be gaining muscle, but unless you're a serious steroid abuser who does a lot of lifting there's no way you gain ten pounds of muscle in a month.

However, don't worry about the glycogen/water weight thing. Eventually you will reach a new natural balance and just pee out the excess water. Trust what you can see in the mirror. If your waistline is shrinking, that's much more important for your health and fitness than a few pounds on the scales. I'd keep doing what you're doing because you're clearly doing something right.
Aim for a pound a month, more than that isn't healthy or very likely. Even one pound a month is a lot if your diet and physical activity isn't on par. I hope you didn't think I meant ten pounds a month, lol.
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I think a tape measure can be a better way to track progression than a weight scale.

On a day to day basis my weight is all over the place, today I am up 1kg more than yesterday even though I went to the gym, and I ate less than maintenance calories. Why, almost certainly because I did some serious weight-work at the gym. Does it mean I added 1kg of muscle mass overnight? No, I am sure I haven't, but I am nevertheless confident that it is a step in the right direction.
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Old 08-22-12, 02:48 AM   #11
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Probably this. You will be gaining muscle, but unless you're a serious steroid abuser who does a lot of lifting there's no way you gain ten pounds of muscle in a month.

However, don't worry about the glycogen/water weight thing. Eventually you will reach a new natural balance and just pee out the excess water. Trust what you can see in the mirror. If your waistline is shrinking, that's much more important for your health and fitness than a few pounds on the scales. I'd keep doing what you're doing because you're clearly doing something right.
This exactly.

I share a very similar body type to the original poster, and i yo yo like this all the way to my "fitness weight" which is right around 200-210 pounds.

For example, i have been riding again religiously the last 3 weeks. Doing group rides, rides with friends, etc. At least around 150 miles a week. I hadnt been on a scale in about a month, so i hopped on the digital scale in the hallway of the doctors office during the wifes last prenatal appointment, and was shocked to see i weighed over 300 pounds again. Yet i have lost about an inch from my waist, and feel oh so much better overall.

I think the other contributing factor with gaining muscle weight is WHERE the weight is. Glycogen weight usually accumulates in and around the major muscle groups. Not in your bread basket. So its not nearly as much unsprung weight youre having to move, like carrying around fat anywhere else. So even though you are technically heavier overall, that weight is in places that are not as taxing to the bodies movement.

So unless youre a wrestler who has a weight class to adhere to, its best to just look and feel how your clothes fit, and how you feel physically as your primary guides, and only use the scale as another tool to monitor your overall fitness, not as a litmus test to gauge your progress on.
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The scale says I went up from 85kg to 86kg in a month after cycling 1000km+. The tape says I lost 1/2 and inch at the waist and my clothes are all getting bigger. My muscles are getting more defined and I can ride much longer and harder and not feel it. I figure this 1kg has to be muscle because the last time I checked my body fat percentage it was creeping down to 11% and I've only been eating enough to fuel my activity level.
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Probably this. You will be gaining muscle, but unless you're a serious steroid abuser who does a lot of lifting there's no way you gain ten pounds of muscle in a month.

However, don't worry about the glycogen/water weight thing. Eventually you will reach a new natural balance and just pee out the excess water. Trust what you can see in the mirror. If your waistline is shrinking, that's much more important for your health and fitness than a few pounds on the scales. I'd keep doing what you're doing because you're clearly doing something right.
This. If you want cites I can dig some up.
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Unless you are doing a good amount of sprinting or lifting weights it's not likely you gained much muscle, particularly if you are eating in a caloric deficit. Cycling does not build muscle. You can certainly increase strength in your legs but strength gains do not mean you gained muscle.
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Unless you are doing a good amount of sprinting or lifting weights it's not likely you gained much muscle, particularly if you are eating in a caloric deficit. Cycling does not build muscle. You can certainly increase strength in your legs but strength gains do not mean you gained muscle.
^This. ^

The only time I began to 'bulk' when I was lifting was after my weight loss, when I was no longer running calorie deficits. Ditto with cycling - my quads 'visually' grew after I reached goal weight. While you might have added a little muscle, you are probably carrying water as well.
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