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    Equipment Life

    So I took my bike in today for an adjustment as was shocked. I am an Uber clyde @310 but do these life spans seem reasonable? I was told that i need the following:
    Front Derailleur (existing Ultegra 6600 one is cracked and original to the bike so @6yrs old So I can believe this one)

    Chain (existing change was purchased 7-1 and installed 7-2, Has under 800 miles on it and in a whipperman connex 10s8)

    Cables and housing (shift cable and housing is from late january this year so @2800 miles and brake cable/housing from October last yr so @3800 miles)

    Rear tire (cont gatorskin installed 5-16 with 1274 miles)

    Am I expecting to much that these should last longer?

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    Would expect more from the chain I would think...but maybe there is a reason it wore so quickly...how do the gears look on the crank and cassette? How many miles on those?

    I ride a motorcycle and have heard to change the gears (sprockets?) when chain is replaced.
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    Chain should last longer if you keep it clean and don't ride up mountains.
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    Cluster and Crank are new late last year @November so roughly 3200 miles

    I do keep the chain clean, BUT, I have been climbing alot more on this one than previous chains.

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    if you ride big gear, easy ring then that would stretch the chain out farther faster, I also try to store the bike w/ a decent chain line. I also swear by KMC chains for both road and MTB, last longer then SRAM/Shinamo versions at same price point and put up to abuse. And I tend to abuse my MTB allot. Uses same power links as srams too so easy patch jobs.

    Cheap cable housing will wear faster then teflon coated ones. Cables stretch, I tend to swap them every yr regardless of mileage.

    Tires LOL, I'd be happy if the back last a yr before it flat spots too much at about 1000k miles. I'd get giddy at 1200miles. When tires I like are on sales, I buy 3.

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    Those are all good reasons to do your own maintenance... I'm sure they're bending you over on the price of the spares.

    Do those items look worn out to you? Does your bike shift poorly? Is it hard to shift? I have a hard time believing your shift cables are already worn out, unless they've frayed somewhere. It should be easy to spot a FD crack. The rear tire is already worn out? I get more miles out of a michelin pro3 and those are mildly famous for wearing out.

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    I have to jump on the I question this side. I ride hills all the time, have over 1800 miles on my chain and it's at 40% currently...I expect it to last the season.

    I also doubt that cable thing....

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    Front derailleur? I've never had a bad front derailleur in the 70,000 miles I've logged since 95.


    Housings? I have the same original housings on my Madone from the first Lemond back in 05. 14,000 on one frame, another 14,000 on the second and maybe 3,000 on the Madone, never changed the hosuing. I keep it clean and when i replace the cables, I clean then up. 30,000+ with the same housings.

    Cables fray about every 12,000 miles.

    I get about 13,000 out of a chain. I HAVE NEVER BROKEN A CHAIN. I change the chain when I change the cassette at 13,000. I can't see spending $30 fora chain every 2,000 miles per lbs recommendations, and cassette every 6,000. Waste of money IMO. I've stretched it out to 15,000 miles in the past (no pun intended) but the chain was noisy for the last 1000. Back in 03,04,05 09 I was doing some months with 30,000+ ft of climbing and never had chain issues.


    I use the sram chains at the $22 level and never had a problem.

    My GP 4000 has about 1200 miles, flattened center but wear indicators are still there.

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    I usually do most my own maintenance but since i have "free adjustments" for life I took it in due to the rear upshifting being "off" (I have to push 1 1/2 times to get it to go)

    Derailler cage is cracked at the bridge so I can buy that (although they wanted to charge 99 bucks for a new one and they sell it for 59 on their website)

    The cables/housings are a jagwire racer kit and are teflon coated.

    I went to the wippermann chains after breaking the plate on 3 ultegra chains in a row (each around the 1500 mile mark) spend 40bucks on the 10s8's

    Rear tire has a flat spot in the center but I dont see a wear indicator (didnt even know it existed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahultin View Post
    I usually do most my own maintenance but since i have "free adjustments" for life I took it in due to the rear upshifting being "off" (I have to push 1 1/2 times to get it to go)

    Derailler cage is cracked at the bridge so I can buy that (although they wanted to charge 99 bucks for a new one and they sell it for 59 on their website)

    The cables/housings are a jagwire racer kit and are teflon coated.

    I went to the wippermann chains after breaking the plate on 3 ultegra chains in a row (each around the 1500 mile mark) spend 40bucks on the 10s8's

    Rear tire has a flat spot in the center but I dont see a wear indicator (didnt even know it existed)
    When that happens to my shifting, usually means the cable is frayed. Get a flahlight, squeeze the brake lever and look inside where the shifting cable is. If it's frayed, you can usually see it there at the ball end of the cable. Do it yourself $5 10 minute fix.

    Is your chain 10 speed? I have 9. I read some time back that 10 speeds had problems with breakage (thinner plates). I heard it was corrected since the 10 speed was issued but I'll stay 9 anyway.

    Wear indicators: 3 round dots/dimples in the center of the tire tread. When they are gone, time to replace.

    6600 front der on amazon for $49. One thing about do it yourself. I've picked up Dura Ace rear der for $64 no tax sales. Heck I bought two and still have a brand new one sitting in my tool box for back up.

    I hate to say this but I won't let a shop touch my stuff no matter how free the service is. I've had them damage more things than fix. Biggest reason I started building my own wheels. Free wheel true? LOOK OUT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahultin View Post
    "free adjustments"
    Ha, now you know how they afford those free adjustments.

    I read some big fancy chain survey and the performance for your buck winner was Shimano 105... inexpensive and lasted forever. SRAM chains lasted very poorly in comparison. Of course, that was right after I bought another SRAM chain from my LBS. :|

    Order yourself a replacement tire or two from ribble in the UK (they're sometimes hard to find when you need them) and keep an eye out for actual tire damage. $30 for a tire your shop would charge you $80 for, and you can certainly replace that yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Order yourself a replacement tire or two from ribble in the UK 30 for a tire your shop would charge you $80 for, and you can certainly replace that yourself.
    ...also checkout probikekit.com.... GP4000's are about the same price I'm guessing and they sell them 2 for $90 right now. Or pay $75 for one at the shop.

    10 day free shipping. Worth the wait.

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    I just got a new tire on the rear...it was bulging in one area as the insides we're broken? Noticed it on my ride Sunday. 700 miles on my tires. They warrantied it so got same stock tire free.
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    I have had excellent luck with SRAM chains. I put an 8-speed chain on my road bike when I bought it two years ago and added mtb gearing. This bike is only used for climbing, nothing else. I still haven't worn out this chain! I measure it often, and it's not stretched at all. The only cleaning I do is to wipe it down with a paper towel after lubing it.

    My two Treks (hybrid and mtb) came with KMC Z-chains. Both of them wore out rather quickly. The one on the mtb stretched to .75% after 5 rides. As soon as it reached that number I replaced it with a SRAM. No damage to the cassette or chainrings.

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